Metal Reviews

Again with the Armenian stuff. Enough already.


Thank you for your words but I strongly doubt that we are wanted there. I don't think they see us as a part of Europe, I'm not sure if we are. If we do enter EU some time in the future (it's already been 40 years of banging the walls of Europe) I think it will be benefical for both EU and Turkey.

indeed... it'll give EU the benefit of a bridge to the muslim world... a bridge we're severely lacking right now and that is very much needed...

I do think Turkey is now ready to join the EU but I'm afraid it's still going to take time... too much time as you're already ahead of most eastern european countries we've already welcomed while they weren't really as ready as Turkey is... I know it's unfair but the fact that Turkey is majoritary Muslim scares a lot of europeans. I don't really get what it is to fear so if anyone has a view on that particular point it'd be more than welcome... :roll:

Well, people fear fuslims, i think you know why that is. It does not matter how much is Turkey ready, its the fear. If you fuck up somethig, fine people will forgive/forget. If you fuck up 1000000x times its over. Thats why european people will never accept Turkey
among them.
I myself fear them as well. Tell me one reason why i shouldnt. Im not scared of unknown as some, but im scared of that bridge you are talking about. Man i would be so glad if actualy muslims werent the aggresive cunts they are. I would welcome them any day. They are humans as im after all.
Arabians are not tolerant bunch, fuck they are mad fuckers so hot blooded that the whole world now fears them. What do they expect? Open arms ? hehe. It would be best for everyone if the Turkey would not join the Europe, because they have no place there because of their aggresive religion. Their values are not ours. They are intolerant to people with diff culture, to their own women. Heh, to pretty much everyone diff then them.
I fear Turkey. I see no good in that. There is millon of other problems in Europe, we dont need more of them realy.
Respect to Turkey though, but stay where you are.

Btw, we have already had Turks in Europe back in the days (year 1240+-) and they didnt behave

1rst, let me recall you only a minority of the muslims are extremists... that done your argument falls short... or maybe you consider Europe to be a Judeo-Christian continent ? :? I surely don't...

then, what is to fear with Muslims ? :shock: See, I'm french and I live in what you could call a "difficult area" filled with immigrants and among them a lot of muslims and I never had one single problem with Muslims so why should I fear them ? :? also, I work in the area of Paris where there are a lot of turks and I never had any problem with any of them, they're Human Beings as you said so I think the best way to peace out things is to start talking to each other just to check if our fears were relevant or not...

after all, we sure share the same planet :roll:

Just pointing out that not all Jews hate Turkey. Actually, from some of the recent rhetoric, I'm going to take a stab in the dark and say that the Jews you're thinking of probably don't hate Turkey because they're Jews, but because those particular individuals have bought into the all Muslims = terrorists bullshit. In America at least, there's no prejudice against Turkey in the Jewish community at large.

Alright, history lesson time.

Hitler wasn't just a racist; Hitler wanted to take over the world and recreate it, wiping out more than just the Jews. Hitler wanted to exterminate Jews, homosexuals, communists, and many other religions and cultures. And they were all sent to concentration camps and most were executed.

The Jews didn't die from "friendly fire" or any bullshit like that, so saying "I don't care about the holocaust. Sure it's terrible , boo-hoo get over it, it's fucking war , it happens" labels you as a fucking retard. Remember that this was BEFORE the war, so the holocaust really should be seperated. It was the first step in Hitler's plan to recreate the world.

Seriously, I would feel the need to punch someone if they ever said something like "[The Jews] were killed by their own poison."

no nationalism and racism are different. However this is a VERY fine line, and for this reason I have major problems with Nationalism as well.

In Britain there is only one political party which actually classes themselves as "nationalist", and this is the BNP. Are they racists? You fucking bet they are. This is just one example, but you will find it mirrored all over the world.

Kathaarian, you may consider yourself on the right side of this thin line, but when you come out with statements like "the jews were killed by their own poison", and "I hate kurds" and "I hate serbs"... this blurs that line rather.

In short, I have no time for nationalists either, racist or not. And this is not because I am a hippy. This is because I know my country has committed just as many crimes as it has good deeds, as has turkey, as has the USA, as has France... For everything there is to be proud about being british, their is something shameful. I love this country but I would never lay down my life, just because the British government wants me to.

I love you Rio... would you marry me in Spain, Belgium, Netherlands or Canada ?

seriously, I totally agree ! wise words my man... wise words... 8)

And who are you to give me a history lesson?

A punch in the face huh? I would welcome you to try. It's easy to say that in front of your computer, but face to face I doubt you would have anything to say to disagree with what I said.

I'm a dangerous nazi punk, remember that. :roll:

So I'm a fucking racist. Then what is this fucking ignorant asshole who thinks that every muslim is a fucking terrorist? Fucking idiot. You don't know shit.

Newsflash : Turkey is the country that suffers most from Islamic terrorism. We're not arabs you idiot. We are Turks. Islamic extremists are seen as terrorists here too. We do not share the arabic culture, in fact we have nothing to do with them. Even today a suicide bomber blasted himself in a bus. Killing a lot of people. He's probably a Islamic terrorist.


And you didn't have the Turks in europe. The Turks INVADED europe and kicked a lot of ass during the time. We didn't behave? Of course we didn't, who had the balls to make us behave?

Ok. I'll accept that this is a very wise statement afterall. But could you just try to see it from my point of view?

Why do I say I hate kurds? Here I go :

The Kurds are the people who fill the prison. %70 of every crime is commited by a Kurd. They always curse at Atatürk (our founding father). They do terrorist attacks every once in a while and accept that they did it. The terrorist group called PKK (kadek) killed 30.000 Turkish people and only a small part of it was Turkish soldiers. Mostly woman adn chilren were killed. Just to cause more trouble. Kurds celebrated these activites every single time.


30.000 fucking people. Innocent. Murdered. Not 100 or 50 years ago. Durin the past 15 years.

Don't you see why I hate Kurds? Can't you at least see my point?

And don't be a wise ass to say "not all kurds are terrorist" I know that they aren't. In fact I have 4-5 kurd friends. And I've said everything I said here to theri faces. They agreed. Because they're intelligent people. They have melted in the Turkish culture and became Turks. No matter what race they are, they are Turks now.

:shock: :oops: :o

The kurds themselves have also suffered attempted genocide at the hands of the Iraqis under Saddam as well though... This cycle of abuse will go round in circles forever, and the kurds and iraqis are just two more links in this chain.

The point is that this all goes round in circles. And when london was bombed recently, the first thing we had to do collectively in Britain, was not to allow the actions of terrorists to lead to prejudice against normal Muslims, who are in fact of great benefit to this country economically AND culturally. Sadly, this has not happened in many cases, and there are reports on the news on increased physical attacks on innocent muslims (or people who just look like they could be). :evil: :evil: :evil:

As for the numbers of kurds in prison n Turkey, I know little of this matter. However I suspect we may be able to draw a parrallel between here and the USA. (Just an example, Europe is guilty of this too! this is by no means an attempt to start another Europe v USA flamewar!!!)

In America there is a disproportionately large amount of black people and hispanics in prison compared to whites, but I don't believe this is because those races are naturally more inclined to commit crimes at all, although this is what some "nationalists" would have you believe. This is because such a high proportion of ethnic minorities still live in very working class or poverty stricken areas, as a result of their society still being weighed too heavily in favour of people who are born into white, middle class families.

My point is, when there is a disproportionately large number of people from one race in prison in a country, it is often more as a result of that societies prejudices, than said race being intrinsically more violent.

But having said that, I do see your point, and appreciate that you don't hate ALL kurds. However, as this is the case you should really have said "I hate terrorists" as opposed to "I hate kurds".

Kathaarian: When everyone tells you that you are racist... you're probably racist.

except racism doesn't even exist...

in biology, it's a well known fact that there's only ONE race of human... and we now know for sure we all come from somewhere in the East of Africa...

so, it the very concept of racism is to be considered irrelevant, I say it's not racism but just plain & simple stupidity ! :twisted:

Yep. And I agree w/ what Rio said above too. Group wedding, guys?

Thanks for pointing that out, dumbass, it never occured to me.

I fail to see how that could be considered fact. It's the prevailing theory sure, but there are other ideas, and not just religious ones.

would you kindly name some because I fail to recall anything... :roll:

I heard one that goes something along the lines of this: there is one blonde haired, blue eyed, teutonic true race designed to rule the rest of the mongrels..