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I listen mainly to metal - 99% of the time.

Over the weekend it was Cradle of Filth, Iced Earth, Dimmu Borgir, Kreator, Megadeth, Cavalera Conspiracy and Kataklysm.

Closest to non-Metal was Alice In Chains and Stone Temple Pilots.

I like other genres but only in small quantities - kinda like pepper on a steak.

Funny thing is, according to some more Trve Kvlt metallers (maybe even on this forum) my musical tastes are "poserish."


There isn't anything wrong with your taste I'd say, you're the only individual I know of besides Scedenauaagaagaga who knows of Gorefest. I don't understand why you dislike most bm, but hey it's all good.


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I don't like Kataklysm.


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Metal is still what I listen to the most. No sign of slowing down


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dead1 wrote:
Funny thing is, according to some more Trve Kvlt metallers (maybe even on this forum) my musical tastes are "poserish."


It is poserish to refer to people into more underground material than yourself as "trve kvlt", but no, you do like some good stuff.


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I don't see it as even remotely close to dying, as long as the underground thrives with decent bands and I can still listen to my classic albums, there isn't much else to be said. The quality bands will thrive while the shitty trend hacks will have their five minutes of fame and be forgotten.


I was talking about metal listening in regards to the people of this forum not the decline of the metal scene altogether. I agree, the metal scene will never die off. There will always be brilliant bands and artists that will make excellent and timeless music.


I see the forum's rise and fall in affinity for metal as a cyclical process. Back in 2006, I believe, Misha and Stefan had a number of 'beyond metal' followers, and now you have Noodles, Frigid, Heatseeker, and a few others. There will always be a certain segment of the population that considers the genre a phase, and another group which remains diehard.

I think some people overplay music in general and metal specifically here, and thus they burn out their interest on the genre: some people probably listen to much music for their own good. I've found balanced listening between different types of metal and non-metal has worked; I've never had a moment where I seriously questioned the interest.


I'm actually listening to a lot more metal now than I have in years. My affinity for metal itself is cyclical, with some times where I'm really into it and probably 70% of what I listen to is metal (like now) and other times where I drift away and barely listen to it at all. There definitely have been times when I didn't feel like the whole metal aesthetic matched at all with how I was feeling, what was going on in my life, etc. Even now, as you guys know, I tend away from the "darker" side of metal because that's just not where I'm at in my life. Even the really heavy stuff I listen to is always more about being super intense and empowering than grimness. At least, that's how I hear it.

So yeah, I don't think I'll ever stop listening to metal, but there are definitely times when I don't listen to it that much. But I always come back to my first love... :wub:


Yeah, I just reread what you wrote in the
"Do you miss how it felt when you discovered metal?", and I admit to having misread it before.

I now only see Frigid and Noodles as followers of the old Misha "metal is a phase" school of thinking on the forum currently.


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But Misha liked lame avant-garde and I get bored by things without a continuous groove and/or catchy melody!


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But Misha liked lame avant-garde and I get bored by things without a continuous groove and/or catchy melody!

+1

Also, I wouldn't exactly say that my relationship to Metal was along the lines of "it's only a phase!" It was much more important to me than that- I just got bored with listening to only one genre, and since I had limited myself to the single one for so long I had a lot of catching up to do with everything else I enjoy- indie, britpop, folk, punk, etc. I still listen to metal weekly, it just gets swallowed up by everything else that occupies heavier rotation.

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I know guys; and you two could never approach the pretension of Misha. But I never see you guys talking about metal, (which ultimately is fine, of course).


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emperorblackdoom wrote:
the pretension of Misha.

Care to explain?


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The Annoying Frenchman wrote:
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the pretension of Misha.

Care to explain?


You got it Stefan.


"The nice change of pace thread" from 2006 on the Metalreviews.com forum


http://www.metalreviews.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5887

The meaty part begins at the bottom of page 1 when I thank Misha for the Solstafir review (turns out it was your recommendation, Stefan, thanks again). He claims I never would have checked it had he 'properly labelled it as hardcore', which you noted it was not hardcore. His quote from page 2, where he is referring to me:
"You forgot he's not interested, only if I give it a metallish label. Sólstafir actually describe themselves as hardcore, with a reason. If I would have labeled it that, the poor guy would have overlooked it like my other reviewed albums. I needed to start lightly on the readers here, for them to remain insterested, that's why I mislabeled some bands' genres."

Funny looking back, and definitely an example of Misha's pretension.


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I actually have pieces of metal in my ears and nose so no metal is not dying for me.


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Isn't Misha the guy that looks like a male model, shouldn't that queen be posting in a Jazz forum?


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I think some people overplay music in general and metal specifically here, and thus they burn out their interest on the genre: some people probably listen to much music for their own good. I've found balanced listening between different types of metal and non-metal has worked; I've never had a moment where I seriously questioned the interest.


This sums me up well, actually. Reviewing metal means that I have to listen to a lot of it, and it's not always the sort of metal that I'm in the mood for. Although I've discovered a lot of great music thanks to writing, it's also served to put me off some, too. My current lack of interest in Black Metal is a case in point... burnout. That balance is what I strive for, but because I didn't do it from the beginning it doesn't work as well for me as for you.


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stevelovesmoonspell wrote:
There isn't anything wrong with your taste I'd say, you're the only individual I know of besides Scedenauaagaagaga who knows of Gorefest.


:lol:


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emperorblackdoom wrote:
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the pretension of Misha.

Care to explain?


You got it Stefan.


"The nice change of pace thread" from 2006 on the Metalreviews.com forum


http://www.metalreviews.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5887

The meaty part begins at the bottom of page 1 when I thank Misha for the Solstafir review (turns out it was your recommendation, Stefan, thanks again). He claims I never would have checked it had he 'properly labelled it as hardcore', which you noted it was not hardcore. His quote from page 2, where he is referring to me:
"You forgot he's not interested, only if I give it a metallish label. Sólstafir actually describe themselves as hardcore, with a reason. If I would have labeled it that, the poor guy would have overlooked it like my other reviewed albums. I needed to start lightly on the readers here, for them to remain insterested, that's why I mislabeled some bands' genres."

Funny looking back, and definitely an example of Misha's pretension.

Ok. But I think posting it out of context wasn't the fairest thing to do. Trust me, I knew Misha quite well back then and he was evolving so fast some "technical terms" were eluding him, he was not the pretentious ass you seem to recall. Imho, what he meant with "hardcore" was there was a strong post-hardcore influence in Solstafir's music which was actually right.
Anyway, as you pointed out, it was me who recommended Solstafir - a truly brilliant band - which proves to Herr Valefor (whatever is name is lately) that I have not given up on metal altogether. I'm just a lot more choosey than I used to be.


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I'm not going to review black metal, unless it's very special black metal, like Mystic Forest, Klabautamann, Darkspace



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The Annoying Frenchman wrote:
emperorblackdoom wrote:
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the pretension of Misha.

Care to explain?


You got it Stefan.


"The nice change of pace thread" from 2006 on the Metalreviews.com forum


http://www.metalreviews.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5887

The meaty part begins at the bottom of page 1 when I thank Misha for the Solstafir review (turns out it was your recommendation, Stefan, thanks again). He claims I never would have checked it had he 'properly labelled it as hardcore', which you noted it was not hardcore. His quote from page 2, where he is referring to me:
"You forgot he's not interested, only if I give it a metallish label. Sólstafir actually describe themselves as hardcore, with a reason. If I would have labeled it that, the poor guy would have overlooked it like my other reviewed albums. I needed to start lightly on the readers here, for them to remain insterested, that's why I mislabeled some bands' genres."

Funny looking back, and definitely an example of Misha's pretension.

Ok. But I think posting it out of context wasn't the fairest thing to do. Trust me, I knew Misha quite well back then and he was evolving so fast some "technical terms" were eluding him, he was not the pretentious ass you seem to recall. Imho, what he meant with "hardcore" was there was a strong post-hardcore influence in Solstafir's music which was actually right.
Anyway, as you pointed out, it was me who recommended Solstafir - a truly brilliant band - which proves to Herr Valefor (whatever is name is lately) that I have not given up on metal altogether. I'm just a lot more choosey than I used to be.


You know what my my name is lately, it hasn't, umm, how do I put this... changed in years.


:lol:

He was a bit pretentious, actually, "rapid evolution" :lol: notwithsatnding.


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Are you denying the fact that anyone (that includes you and me) can sometimes be a pompous ass and that age (he was quite you if your remember well) doesn't help?


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The Annoying Frenchman wrote:
emperorblackdoom wrote:
The Annoying Frenchman wrote:
emperorblackdoom wrote:
the pretension of Misha.

Care to explain?


You got it Stefan.


"The nice change of pace thread" from 2006 on the Metalreviews.com forum


http://www.metalreviews.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5887

The meaty part begins at the bottom of page 1 when I thank Misha for the Solstafir review (turns out it was your recommendation, Stefan, thanks again). He claims I never would have checked it had he 'properly labelled it as hardcore', which you noted it was not hardcore. His quote from page 2, where he is referring to me:
"You forgot he's not interested, only if I give it a metallish label. Sólstafir actually describe themselves as hardcore, with a reason. If I would have labeled it that, the poor guy would have overlooked it like my other reviewed albums. I needed to start lightly on the readers here, for them to remain insterested, that's why I mislabeled some bands' genres."

Funny looking back, and definitely an example of Misha's pretension.

Ok. But I think posting it out of context wasn't the fairest thing to do. Trust me, I knew Misha quite well back then and he was evolving so fast some "technical terms" were eluding him, he was not the pretentious ass you seem to recall. Imho, what he meant with "hardcore" was there was a strong post-hardcore influence in Solstafir's music which was actually right.
Anyway, as you pointed out, it was me who recommended Solstafir - a truly brilliant band - which proves to Herr Valefor (whatever is name is lately) that I have not given up on metal altogether. I'm just a lot more choosey than I used to be.


How exactly am I posting out of context? I was aiming to thank him and you for recommending and reviewing a good record. His response was to talk to down to me like I was some sort of cro-magnon man.


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Goat wrote:
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I think some people overplay music in general and metal specifically here, and thus they burn out their interest on the genre: some people probably listen to much music for their own good. I've found balanced listening between different types of metal and non-metal has worked; I've never had a moment where I seriously questioned the interest.


This sums me up well, actually. Reviewing metal means that I have to listen to a lot of it, and it's not always the sort of metal that I'm in the mood for. Although I've discovered a lot of great music thanks to writing, it's also served to put me off some, too. My current lack of interest in Black Metal is a case in point... burnout. That balance is what I strive for, but because I didn't do it from the beginning it doesn't work as well for me as for you.


The pressure to review unfairly burdens you; but you'll find it again, I think.

Rarely do I tire of metal because I don't listen to much music these days, but when I do I have so much else to choose from, and I don't even have broad tastes like many of you do. 70s rock, 90s rock, darkwave, stuff like Cure and Depeche Mode, and about 10 composers ensures that I really never burn out.


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