Metal Reviews

Emperor kills any Thrash band!

HA! You cannot argue with that!
All Hail The Glory Of Emperor!
V.

why would anyone even want to bother argue this?

And for pure evil agression, Darkthrone - A Blaze In The Northern Sky owns any Thrash I have heard.
As soon as * insert Thrash band name here * beheld the True Norwegian Black Metal Barbarians, the mighty Darkthrone, emerge over the frozen tundra, they would would run for the hills...
V.

And for pure evil agression, Darkthrone - A Blaze In The Northern Sky owns any Thrash I have heard.
As soon as * insert Thrash band name here * beheld theTrue Norwegian Black Metal Barbarians, the mighty Darkthrone, emerge over the frozen tundra, they would would run for the hills...
V.

You kidding? Exodus blows Emperor away.

HAHAHA! If you say so...
V,

So that's how Darkthrone became a two member band. Cool.

Whoever would write something so deluded, should at least use their own signature... And as for scrawniness, I don't know of too many burly thrash bands, thats just dumb.
We are talking about the force of MUSIC, not who can drink more beer. Besides, I don't think Darkthrone carry wallets...
The Real V.

Well seeing as how Black Metal is the bastard son of thrash....all I can say is...who's your daddy. And Darkthrone is soo full of old celtic frost riffs so they have quite a bit in common with thrash. But I'm sorry, Darkthrone is one of the most evil bands....but as far as brutal aggression, I wouldnt put them up there with...oh lets say Vio-lence. Early Vio-lence, and many old bay area bands for that matter, who so totally dominate any black metal band, that its not even fair to mention the sheer brutality involved. While the black metal guys are busy chanting pagan rites...or whatever the fuck they do...drink blood, the thrash metal guys would be busy putting a lead pipe through their avant garde faces. ANd that is expressed in the music. So down picking, plus face crushing attitude, plus pure decibel superiority....I would give thrash metal the title of superior genre. More quality bands, more quality musicians.

Emperor is a great band, but

1.) they're not black meta, maybe they were, but the music they are most famous for is not black metal.

2.) The music is too layered and complicated to be termed as brutal aggression, I'd say its pure chaos, but thats it. Thrash metal is heavier and if you're going to use the argument of musicianship, then I'd give death metal artists the benefit of being the superior ones....but only bands like Pestilence or Cynic, or Atheist. Emperor just cannot match up to the sheer thrashing madness of these bands. ANd keep in mind that I hold Emperor in the highest regard, but they are no longer a band, and since they're not black metal fit nowhere into this discussion.

In the Nightside Eclipse and Anthems are definitley black metal.

Holy Terror, I like you and your attitude (seriously!)... you're for thrash 100% and you do not bend the knee
and thats cool, but Celtic Frost is not Thrash and when you say "BM is the bastard son of Thrash" you are referring to Venom, no?
Let me remind you that Venom are so difficult tro categorize because they spawned Thrash, Black Metal and perhaps Death Metal on the tail end of the NWOBHM movement... so it would be more accurate to say that perhaps Black/Thrash are very distant cousins.
Lets just say that Thrash and Black Metal are too different to really qualify for a "match" and leave it at that. Like I said before, to me it is like apples and oranges: both are good but different.
But you have got to admit Emperor made some fucking killer Metal, Black or otherwise.
HAILS!
V.

I have absolutely no problem admitting how much ass Emperor kicked. And....Celtic Frost had some thrashy...really thrashy parts...listen to Morbid Tales...I'd say it thrashes. And what I meant by bastard son whas....well take Kreator for instance, I'm pretty sure MIlle played a big part in influencing both BM vocals...and guitars....cuz lets face it, BM and Death Metal were born from the thrash womb. This is just my opinion mind you, but I think its pretty accurate.

back to emperor. I think of them as more of a hybrid band, they mix thrash, BM, and Dm and they do it well.

Anthems is more of a death/black metal hybrid to me. They are however, the only band that has ever been able to recreate the sound of a tornado...in fact I'd call them unholy tornado metal. But yeah, you're right, Emperor fucking kills.

So if possible I'd like not to ever compare Emperor to a thrash band...any thrash band, because like you said, they're apples and oranges......Emperor is kind of like an Ocean Spray CranAppleBanna berry. Yeah thats it. So thats what I think, I could be wrong...but eh, who cares.

I personally don't see the death metal/black metal mix in Anthems. It really just songs like epic, thrashy black metal to me. And In the Nightshade Eclipse just pure black metal. Though I can definently see what your talking about with Celtic Frost, but I don't really see them personally as thrash as much as I do proto-black or just pure black metal.

Black Metal definitely slays any and all Thrash!

The combined force of Darkthrone, 1349 and Anaal Nathrakh will have thrashies hiding in their closets, weeping uncontrolably while the darkness that is black metal swarms around them like a whirlwind of pure evil!

We are talking about the force of the music, dude. Like Holy Terror (Someone you agreed with) said, BMer's sing their pagan chants, and drink blood, while Thrasher's sing about anything involving being a baddass, and in Tankard's case, drinking, kicking ass, and drinking.

It only makes sense that I picture their personas being similar to some wizardry nutjob, trying to burn a church in sacrafice in order to summon demons, etc etc... meanwhile taking a lead pipe to the head from the beer gutted drunk with violent tendencies.

Yeah, hit me with some BM theology now, about it all being anti-everything, and not about Satan. Either way, I still don't picture a world class fighter, or even a stumble gut brawler, when I hear the title "Theologist."

And the wallet comment... I mean, with all the jobs Black Metal bands hold down.

Anaal Nathrakh is too industrial to be Black Metal. I know they try to be BM, but it just seems like EXTREMELY Brutal Industrial. Plus, their death vocals every now and then.

And thrashies don't need to hide... from inferior bands. :twisted:



Although I will admit that Thrakh's latest has been a hell of a ride. Which is prolly due to the industrial edge.

I hear no industrial in Anaal Nathrakh. At least in The Codex Necro. I hear a lot of things, believe me(the driving force being black metal), but none of them are industrial.

Funny, because I've heard friends call Codex nothing BUT noisy industrial! I think there's even a review on Amazon with a similar description.

And I agree with them, completely.

This Cannot Be the End is about as industrial as you can get.

Holy terror, I agree that thrash and black metal are related, maybe for a part black metal even evolved from thrash. anyways, they have a lot of things in common now: a vital underground scene that's hidden under a carpet of faggish, modern sounding bands that do not understand the meanings of the genre. the second thing they have in common is that the underground has a closeminded fanbase of assholes like you and me. Anyways BM was never about brutality or aggressiveness specificly, it deals with all "darker" emotions and their beauty. To me, it's more like a feeling it stands for than the mere sound of catchy music that other genres try to accomplisch with their standard songstructures. However, if you want something powerfull, hatefull, aggressive and blasphemously true, try Funeral Mist - Salvation.