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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 11:49 pm 
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Liv Kristine is hotter and sings better and sexier then both Scabbia or Annke. Although Nighttime Birds and the way she sings on that album and Mandylion does get me hard their newer shit leave me somewhat cold.

Liv Kristine's forehead makes Christina Ricci's look under-developed. Liv is not nearly as hot and hasn't got the range to even touch Anneke, nor does she have the power that Scabbia has. With that said, she is a very good vocalist. I just got the autographed version of the Legend Land EP today.

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I hate the new lacuna coil because it is shit. I seriously urge all on here to worhsip Beseech instead. Especially Black Emotions and Souls Highway if you want to hear how good Male/Female shit is done.

Comparing Lacuna Coil to Beseech is stupid. Beseech are great, but they sound nothing alike.

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you know damn well his voice isn't the same as on the the ep and the other 2 albums so stop making crap up. I swear i will put voice samples up here if you don't clean out your ears and listen.

Go ahead, and I'll put up samples where he sounds the same.


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I seriously urge all on here to worship Beseech instead. Especially Black Emotions and Souls Highway if you want to hear how good Male/Female shit is done

Agreed, but after Black Emotions and Souls Highway, it all turns to shit for Beseech. Drama was average and their latest is pretty bad

I don't own Drama yet, I'm not spending $15.99 on an 8 track CD. Fuck that. I'll find it used someday. Sunless Days is excellent, though. Pretty bad? No way.


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I seriously urge all on here to worship Beseech instead. Especially Black Emotions and Souls Highway if you want to hear how good Male/Female shit is done

Agreed, but after Black Emotions and Souls Highway, it all turns to shit for Beseech. Drama was average and their latest is pretty bad

I don't own Drama yet, I'm not spending $15.99 on an 8 track CD. Fuck that. I'll find it used someday. Sunless Days is excellent, though. Pretty bad? No way.


Drama isn't worth buying, it was a fuck up of sorts but Sunless Days is damn good.

They are in the same genre, and Lacuna Coil 'used" to play a form of Goth Metal/Rock before they turned to shit. Why can't I compare them?

Liv Kristine is twice the singer Scabbia is and she can swtich styles better too and when she wants to do pop shit she makes solo albums. 3AM is awesome.

Souls Highway is the best album of its type. LC should take lessons that you don't need to steal Korn Riffs and PL outakes from BIN to make an album


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Drama isn't worth buying, it was a fuck up of sorts but Sunless Days is damn good.

You don't understand, I need to buy it. I have all their other albums! :lol:

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They are in the same genre, and Lacuna Coil 'used" to play a form of Goth Metal/Rock before they turned to shit. Why can't I compare them?

Sure, same genre, but a genre that's boarders extend very far. I don't think they sound anywhere near the same.

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Liv Kristine is twice the singer Scabbia is and she can swtich styles better too and when she wants to do pop shit she makes solo albums. 3AM is awesome.

I don't think either have much range, but I feel Scabbia is a more powerful vocalist, while Kristine is more sweet and sultry. Both are very good, but Anneke smokes them both!

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Souls Highway is the best album of its type. LC should take lessons that you don't need to steal Korn Riffs and PL outakes from BIN to make an album

You're talking about two songs there.


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Sunless Days is damn good


Comparred to Black Emotions and Souls Highway, Sunless Days is a load of tripe, except for about 2 songs


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leee wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Trooper Of Steel wrote:
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I seriously urge all on here to worship Beseech instead. Especially Black Emotions and Souls Highway if you want to hear how good Male/Female shit is done

Agreed, but after Black Emotions and Souls Highway, it all turns to shit for Beseech. Drama was average and their latest is pretty bad

I don't own Drama yet, I'm not spending $15.99 on an 8 track CD. Fuck that. I'll find it used someday. Sunless Days is excellent, though. Pretty bad? No way.


Drama isn't worth buying, it was a fuck up of sorts but Sunless Days is damn good.

They are in the same genre, and Lacuna Coil 'used" to play a form of Goth Metal/Rock before they turned to shit. Why can't I compare them?

Liv Kristine is twice the singer Scabbia is and she can swtich styles better too and when she wants to do pop shit she makes solo albums. 3AM is awesome.

Souls Highway is the best album of its type. LC should take lessons that you don't need to steal Korn Riffs and PL outakes from BIN to make an album


Bull-shit. Go to Theatre Of Tragedy's page, and watch the videos/listen to the samples of Kristine-era band. It's far poppier than recent Lacuna Coil. One of the videos could just as easily be a Shakira one, such is the volume of oiled-up torso in it.


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Zad wrote:
leee wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Trooper Of Steel wrote:
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I seriously urge all on here to worship Beseech instead. Especially Black Emotions and Souls Highway if you want to hear how good Male/Female shit is done

Agreed, but after Black Emotions and Souls Highway, it all turns to shit for Beseech. Drama was average and their latest is pretty bad

I don't own Drama yet, I'm not spending $15.99 on an 8 track CD. Fuck that. I'll find it used someday. Sunless Days is excellent, though. Pretty bad? No way.


Drama isn't worth buying, it was a fuck up of sorts but Sunless Days is damn good.

They are in the same genre, and Lacuna Coil 'used" to play a form of Goth Metal/Rock before they turned to shit. Why can't I compare them?

Liv Kristine is twice the singer Scabbia is and she can swtich styles better too and when she wants to do pop shit she makes solo albums. 3AM is awesome.

Souls Highway is the best album of its type. LC should take lessons that you don't need to steal Korn Riffs and PL outakes from BIN to make an album


Bull-shit. Go to Theatre Of Tragedy's page, and watch the videos/listen to the samples of Kristine-era band. It's far poppier than recent Lacuna Coil. One of the videos could just as easily be a Shakira one, such is the volume of oiled-up torso in it.


Dude don't fuck with me on Theatre of Tragedy. I know Assyembly and Muzak were Electro Das Ich like music but at least they did it good and did their own thing, not recycled garbage from Ozzfest leftovers. The guitars are heavier on both of those albums, and Ronnie can totally out sing that moron in LC. I don't need to go to ToT page I own everything they ever did and everything Liv ever did as well. See this is where you sound like noob (or boob). Storm is a good come back album too that suprised the shit out of me. Nell is good on it and better then her shit with the Crest.

It isn't just me that thinks LC destroyed themselves, read other reviews, read the one at Digital Metal, that is exactly how I feel. I know you want to bang Scabbia but you can do that and admit their new album is crap.


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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 1:34 am 
Calm down, leeextrae. Damn. I don't know why you can't seem to accept that some people just aren't going to think the albums sucks. I like it, I think it's very good. Sure, there are some differences musically, but in the end it still sounds like Lacuna Coil and that's what sets them apart. You may hate their newer, more modern sound, but they sound like Lacuna Coil. There is enough of the older Lacuna Coil here to translate well into their new skin, unlike a band like Theatre Of Tragedy who on Assembly and Muzik sound absolutley nothing like their older self.

Don't start on me, either, I like both eras of Theatre Of Tragedy. I also like Liv's solo work and Leaves' Eyes. I already own the autographed version of Legend Land! Oooh, look at me, the uber-fan! Thhhhhhhhhhbt!!


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Dude don't fuck with me on Theatre of Tragedy. I know Assyembly and Muzak were Electro Das Ich like music but at least they did it good and did their own thing, not recycled garbage from Ozzfest leftovers. The guitars are heavier on both of those albums, and Ronnie can totally out sing that moron in LC. I don't need to go to ToT page I own everything they ever did and everything Liv ever did as well. See this is where you sound like noob (or boob). Storm is a good come back album too that suprised the shit out of me. Nell is good on it and better then her shit with the Crest.

It isn't just me that thinks LC destroyed themselves, read other reviews, read the one at Digital Metal, that is exactly how I feel. I know you want to bang Scabbia but you can do that and admit their new album is crap.


Defend that video, shithead! Go on, I'd love to see you do it.

http://www.theatreoftragedy.com/

Come on! Is banging Liv Kristine the only reason that you listen to them? No?! So stop being a fucking idiot, please.


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Dude don't fuck with me on Theatre of Tragedy. I know Assyembly and Muzak were Electro Das Ich like music but at least they did it good and did their own thing, not recycled garbage from Ozzfest leftovers. The guitars are heavier on both of those albums, and Ronnie can totally out sing that moron in LC. I don't need to go to ToT page I own everything they ever did and everything Liv ever did as well. See this is where you sound like noob (or boob). Storm is a good come back album too that suprised the shit out of me. Nell is good on it and better then her shit with the Crest.

It isn't just me that thinks LC destroyed themselves, read other reviews, read the one at Digital Metal, that is exactly how I feel. I know you want to bang Scabbia but you can do that and admit their new album is crap.


Defend that video, shithead! Go on, I'd love to see you do it.

http://www.theatreoftragedy.com/

Come on! Is banging Liv Kristine the only reason that you listen to them? No?! So stop being a fucking idiot, please.


Don't tell me to go to websites to learn about bands I love and own every album by you little music downloading internet metal kid. I don't want to bang her, I want to hear her fucking sing becasue she rules. I know Ken is like our Daddy or something but we can handle our own arguments without being pointed to websites from some downloading child? So kindly go away, don't post again, becase A. You are an obvious idiot and B. Nobody cares what you think. How many Theatre of Tragedy albums you buy? How many Lacuna Coil albums you listen to before 2005 and how many you buy? If the answere is zero like I know it is, shut the fuck up and go away. If I am wrong tell me.

Yeah Ken, I love all of her shit too Man. I bought the new CoF just to hear her sing on Nympethamine is how big of a fan boy I am. I have singles, all that shit.

What do you think of Storm? I totally dig it, Nell sounds awesome and they put the metal back into it a bit, sounds like a mix of Aegis and Assymbely to me and I totally dig it.

Lacuna Coil's new albums still sucks but at least you finally admitted it is different.


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Don't tell me to go to websites to learn about bands I love and own every album by you little music downloading internet metal kid. I don't want to bang her, I want to hear her fucking sing becasue she rules. I know Ken is like our Daddy or something but we can handle our own arguments without being pointed to websites from some downloading child? So kindly go away, don't post again, becase A. You are an obvious idiot and B. Nobody cares what you think. How many Theatre of Tragedy albums you buy? How many Lacuna Coil albums you listen to before 2005 and how many you buy? If the answere is zero like I know it is, shut the fuck up and go away. If I am wrong tell me.

Yeah Ken, I love all of her shit too Man. I bought the new CoF just to hear her sing on Nympethamine is how big of a fan boy I am. I have singles, all that shit.

What do you think of Storm? I totally dig it, Nell sounds awesome and they put the metal back into it a bit, sounds like a mix of Aegis and Assymbely to me and I totally dig it.

Lacuna Coil's new albums still sucks but at least you finally admitted it is different.


I am not asking you to defend the music, you fucking cretin. What I am asking you to do is defend the VIDEO, which you may not have seen! Please, I am not a downloader, and don't appreciate being called a 'kid', either. If you took your arrogant head out of your arse, you might have looked around and found that very few people worship Ken in any sense of the word. Just because you lost an argument with him doesn't automatically make him your worst enemy, you know? And you bought up the "banging" thing first, so shut your fucking mouth.

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So kindly go away, don't post again, becase A. You are an obvious idiot and B. Nobody cares what you think. How many Theatre of Tragedy albums you buy? How many Lacuna Coil albums you listen to before 2005 and how many you buy? If the answere is zero like I know it is, shut the fuck up and go away. If I am wrong tell me.


...says the guy who thinks it's cool to go to a website and immediately do his best to piss everyone off. I haven't bought any TOT albums, and I have "Unleashed Memories" and "Comalies" by Lacuna Coil, ok? But that's not the issue here, the issue is (quite apart from where an arrogant cunt like yourself gets the balls to start trolling like a 14 year-old) the video that TOT made. So check the bloody thing out!


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When you buy some of their albums, talk to me about them. I don't care if the video is cheese, every Metal video ever made is cheese, so what? Have you really seen high art in a metal band video?

And before you accuse me of trolling you are the name caller and the one throwing a tantrum so relax Man, Is fun to talk and argue Metal, not act like a 4 year old over it and call me a cunt and shit. If that gets you off more power to you but it doesn't bother me at all

And if you arent a kid stop acting like one.

Now, kindly excuse me while the adults have a talk about Metal.

What argument did I lose to Ken? That he likes the new LC and I think it is crap? That is just opinon.

Serious dude, did Mom take you off your Ritalin? you need to realax a bit.


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Oh yeah, I bet I could beat you up too....lol. Serious Man, relax.......just a bit, try it. Or at least jack of to an LC video.


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leee wrote:
When you buy some of their albums, talk to me about them. I don't care if the video is cheese, every Metal video ever made is cheese, so what? Have you really seen high art in a metal band video?

And before you accuse me of trolling you are the name caller and the one throwing a tantrum so relax Man, Is fun to talk and argue Metal, not act like a 4 year old over it and call me a cunt and shit. If that gets you off more power to you but it doesn't bother me at all

And if you arent a kid stop acting like one.

Now, kindly excuse me while the adults have a talk about Metal.

What argument did I lose to Ken? That he likes the new LC and I think it is crap? That is just opinon.

Serious dude, did Mom take you off your Ritalin? you need to realax a bit.


And when you've watched the video, talk to me. Your idea of argument is to annoy someone until they erupt, then act all innocently, reminding me of another annoying poster that used to haunt these parts.

Metal is about more than one person's idea of what is acceptable and what is not, and you need to recognise this before starting huge debates.

And you started the insults, so, again, don't act the innocent with me.


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KARMACODE (Live on Jimmy Kimmel)

Seriously...she's damn hot. :lol:

Here's another cool one...

HEAVEN'S A LIE (Acoustic)


I just played that, if she sang that good on the new album it would be awesome.... Anyways.....I will just say this, I read back through what I posted to say way Zad is calling me a cunt and I don't get it........anyways, to stay on topic, Unleashed Memories and the Ep are two of my fave albums of all time, I hope they come back but they won't..... Hearing her sing like that makes me hate the new album even more.......I just dont get it.


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I will just say this, I read back through what I posted to say way Zad is calling me a cunt and I don't get it.


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...you little music downloading internet metal kid...


leeeeeeeeeeeeeeee wrote:
I know Ken is like our Daddy or something but we can handle our own arguments without being pointed to websites from some downloading child?


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So kindly go away, don't post again, becase A. You are an obvious idiot and B. Nobody cares what you think.


leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee wrote:
...shut the fuck up and go away...



From one post...


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Yeah Ken, I love all of her shit too Man. I bought the new CoF just to hear her sing on Nympethamine is how big of a fan boy I am. I have singles, all that shit.

What do you think of Storm? I totally dig it, Nell sounds awesome and they put the metal back into it a bit, sounds like a mix of Aegis and Assymbely to me and I totally dig it.

I downloaded it, but I never listen to downloads much. It's a mental thing, it's not the same for me. When I pick up the CD I will give it a good listen. I do know that I think it was a step up from Assembly.

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I never said it was identical.


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lacuna coil sux, always has and always will =)


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leee wrote:
Yeah Ken, I love all of her shit too Man. I bought the new CoF just to hear her sing on Nympethamine is how big of a fan boy I am. I have singles, all that shit.

What do you think of Storm? I totally dig it, Nell sounds awesome and they put the metal back into it a bit, sounds like a mix of Aegis and Assymbely to me and I totally dig it.

I downloaded it, but I never listen to downloads much. It's a mental thing, it's not the same for me. When I pick up the CD I will give it a good listen. I do know that I think it was a step up from Assembly.

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Lacuna Coil's new albums still sucks but at least you finally admitted it is different.

I never said it was identical.


You did too, you said the voices and everything where the same, just that people heard one song with "Korn" influence and called the whole album that.

Storm is good I think. I def like it better then Assembly and the Crest album I have so seems like a good combination for both. It isn't as good as Vinland Saga or Lovelorn from Liv though.


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leee wrote:
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Yeah Ken, I love all of her shit too Man. I bought the new CoF just to hear her sing on Nympethamine is how big of a fan boy I am. I have singles, all that shit.

What do you think of Storm? I totally dig it, Nell sounds awesome and they put the metal back into it a bit, sounds like a mix of Aegis and Assymbely to me and I totally dig it.

I downloaded it, but I never listen to downloads much. It's a mental thing, it's not the same for me. When I pick up the CD I will give it a good listen. I do know that I think it was a step up from Assembly.

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Lacuna Coil's new albums still sucks but at least you finally admitted it is different.

I never said it was identical.

You did too, you said the voices and everything where the same, just that people heard one song with "Korn" influence and called the whole album that.

My third post in this thread right after I'd firts heard the album:

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OK, just listening through the bits that have downloaded already I can hear some more modern metal sounds here and there just like in "Our Truth," but overall it sounds like it's going to the same style as "Our Truth," 98% old school Lacuna Coil, 2% evolution.

One thing I did notice is the middle eastern influence on numerous songs! What's up with that? Sounds cool, though.


My fifth reply in this thread after I'd given it a good listen:

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Great album. Yes, it's a little different, they've definitely added some modern touches, a bit more than I expected, but it's a really good album.

My opinion stays the same. And I still don't think the vocals have changed.

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Storm is good I think. I def like it better then Assembly and the Crest album I have so seems like a good combination for both. It isn't as good as Vinland Saga or Lovelorn from Liv though.

What The Crest album do you have? I only have Letters From Fire and I think it's excellent. They have a newer album that I don't have, been meaning to find it somewhere.

EDIT: By the way...OWNED!!


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