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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 7:42 pm 
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http://www.metalunderground.com/interviews/details.cfm?newsid=14902

I think this touches on nearly all the points mentioned in the thread.


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Zack: How do you feel about those ‘metalcore’ bands that took the Swedish death metal sound that you helped create?

Bjorn: well let’s hope they explored it and evolve it. If they didn’t then they’re just copies. Most of these bands have their own identity and that’s what counts
lawl i was skimming through the interview and read that ^.^


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 10:32 pm 
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Zack: How do you feel about those ‘metalcore’ bands that took the Swedish death metal sound that you helped create?

Bjorn: well let’s hope they explored it and evolve it. If they didn’t then they’re just copies. Most of these bands have their own identity and that’s what counts
lawl i was skimming through the interview and read that ^.^

Like many people in bands he's probably not heard many of those bands, unlike us fans who fucking hear it all. Identity? In metalcore? Hahahahaha.

Zack: What album would you compare it to? If any?


Bjorn: Well I wouldn’t compare it to any, because it’s got a little bit of everything in it. From the actual start all the way up to where we are right now. It’s all this bullshit about ‘going back to your roots.’ Either you have your roots or you don’t. Or you have your roots and that’s it. We tried, on this one, to do something, which is not as rhythm defined as the last album, was. The last album was very dark in the whole atmosphere of the album, but this time around we wanted to do something a bit more up tempo, more energy to it. When you listen to it you can hear that we are very happy about the album.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:45 am 
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It's alright, I still cant get over Anders' soft vocals. Definitely better than Soundtrack, I'd say it's on par with Reroute on enjoyability. Still a damn shame that their style has changed since the days of old. They write pretty good hard rock/nu-metal, but they wrote GREAT melodic death.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 6:59 pm 
I'm actually seeing In Flames in February. Hopefully, they'll go against the grain a little and play something from The Jester Race. Though I'm guessing the majority of the songs will be from Come Clarity.

By the way, I'm just gonna wait until the album's released before listening to it. But being one of the people who enjoyed Soundtrack To Your Escape, I'm not worried.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 7:38 pm 
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Someone had to go on a rant. I'm fucking sick of hearing "return to roots" when this CD is far from it. It's nothing more than a fucking lie, plain and simple. Just like Metallica, Machine Head, etc. I will gladly listen to other bands, but when bands who have classic catalog albums like those mentioned flat-out lie to people, it really gets under my skin.

You keep saying this return to roots thing, quote somewhere where In Flames say this? Is this album like Reroute To Remain? No. Is it like Soundtrack To Your Escape? No. Is it like Clayman? Yep. Quite. Not their roots, but a return to a heavier style.

Metallica will never return to their roots, they'll just dye them. And Machine Head sure as fuck went back to their roots! Don't even fucking dispute that one.


Yep, too bad Machine Head couldn't have retained the enjoyment factor of Burn My Eyes and The More Things Change.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 7:38 pm 
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Seinfeld26 wrote:
I'm actually seeing In Flames in February. Hopefully, they'll go against the grain a little and play something from The Jester Race. Though I'm guessing the majority of the songs will be from Come Clarity.

By the way, I'm just gonna wait until the album's released before listening to it. But being one of the people who enjoyed Soundtrack To Your Escape, I'm not worried.


Same here. Actually, I might go. If only for Sepultura who should be headlining, dammit!


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 7:46 pm 
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DeathScream\m/ wrote:
Someone had to go on a rant. I'm fucking sick of hearing "return to roots" when this CD is far from it. It's nothing more than a fucking lie, plain and simple. Just like Metallica, Machine Head, etc. I will gladly listen to other bands, but when bands who have classic catalog albums like those mentioned flat-out lie to people, it really gets under my skin.

You keep saying this return to roots thing, quote somewhere where In Flames say this? Is this album like Reroute To Remain? No. Is it like Soundtrack To Your Escape? No. Is it like Clayman? Yep. Quite. Not their roots, but a return to a heavier style.

Metallica will never return to their roots, they'll just dye them. And Machine Head sure as fuck went back to their roots! Don't even fucking dispute that one.


Yep, too bad Machine Head couldn't have retained the enjoyment factor of Burn My Eyes and The More Things Change.

Through The Ashes Of Empires, to me, sounds like it should have been released right after Burn My Eyes.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 8:25 pm 
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Seinfeld26 wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
DeathScream\m/ wrote:
Someone had to go on a rant. I'm fucking sick of hearing "return to roots" when this CD is far from it. It's nothing more than a fucking lie, plain and simple. Just like Metallica, Machine Head, etc. I will gladly listen to other bands, but when bands who have classic catalog albums like those mentioned flat-out lie to people, it really gets under my skin.

You keep saying this return to roots thing, quote somewhere where In Flames say this? Is this album like Reroute To Remain? No. Is it like Soundtrack To Your Escape? No. Is it like Clayman? Yep. Quite. Not their roots, but a return to a heavier style.

Metallica will never return to their roots, they'll just dye them. And Machine Head sure as fuck went back to their roots! Don't even fucking dispute that one.


Yep, too bad Machine Head couldn't have retained the enjoyment factor of Burn My Eyes and The More Things Change.

Through The Ashes Of Empires, to me, sounds like it should have been released right after Burn My Eyes.


That's fine. I personally, however, found TTAOE boring and repetitive. Plus, I don't really like its production. I don't think it's a bad album by any means (Imperium, Elegy and All Falls Down were great songs), and I'll still pop it in every once in a while. But I certainly consider it one of the most overpraised metal albums of 2004.

Overall, I'd give it about a 70/100.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 1:30 am 
70/100 isn't bad. I'd definitely score it at least 85/100. I love it. The only album I really didn't like by them was Supercharger, though there are some good tunes there. I really like The Burning Red, though I do concede there are some serious nu-metal tendencies there. I don't, however, agree that they went rapcore like so many people claim.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:36 pm 
Okay, the band just posted the entire song Take This Life on their website. Overall, pretty good. They've upped the technicality and complexity (compared to anything on Soundtrack To Your Escape), and overall it does retain some of that oldschool In Flames sound.

Soundtrack was a good-but-not-spectacular album (IMO) and Come Clarity sounds like it will probably be a much better album.


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I'm interested in hearing it. I don't listen to any In Flames that much anymore, but they still hold a place in my listening history, as it were.

I certainly hope there aren't any songs where Anders manages to sound like Jonathan Davis again.


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Why does no-one like Callenish Circle? They're like new IF, but good.


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Radical Cut wrote:
I'm interested in hearing it. I don't listen to any In Flames that much anymore, but they still hold a place in my listening history, as it were.

I certainly hope there aren't any songs where Anders manages to sound like Jonathan Davis again.


Gagh. Seeing him on stage down on his knees waving his dreadlocks around ranks as a low point for me.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 5:51 pm 
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I'm interested in hearing it. I don't listen to any In Flames that much anymore, but they still hold a place in my listening history, as it were.

I certainly hope there aren't any songs where Anders manages to sound like Jonathan Davis again.

Besides those people who haven't heard the album and still claim it sucks, I think the general concensus is that the only really bad song is "Come Clarity." I actually don't mind the song, but Anders's vocals can be a bit annoying if I'm not in the right mood for it. The rest of the album is pretty kick ass!


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Eyesore wrote:
Radical Cut wrote:
I'm interested in hearing it. I don't listen to any In Flames that much anymore, but they still hold a place in my listening history, as it were.

I certainly hope there aren't any songs where Anders manages to sound like Jonathan Davis again.

Besides those people who haven't heard the album and still claim it sucks, I think the general concensus is that the only really bad song is "Come Clarity." I actually don't mind the song, but Anders's vocals can be a bit annoying if I'm not in the right mood for it. The rest of the album is pretty kick ass!


Or, you know, the people who have heard the album and still claim it sucks. But hey, you know, I guess those opinions don't count.


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Eyesore wrote:
Radical Cut wrote:
I'm interested in hearing it. I don't listen to any In Flames that much anymore, but they still hold a place in my listening history, as it were.

I certainly hope there aren't any songs where Anders manages to sound like Jonathan Davis again.

Besides those people who haven't heard the album and still claim it sucks, I think the general concensus is that the only really bad song is "Come Clarity." I actually don't mind the song, but Anders's vocals can be a bit annoying if I'm not in the right mood for it. The rest of the album is pretty kick ass!
I would say the title track is "A hideous abuse of what constitutes music" and the rest of the album is merely "bad"


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 7:50 am 
For those of you who like this album, they just played it in it's entirety on a Music Choice channel and I caught the last few songs, and the last song, the instrumental on the leaked version, actually gets a little heavy at the end with some singing and whatnot, so it's not a complete instrumental.

Just a little FYI. Not intended to start the hating anew. :wink:


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heard 'Crawl Thru Knifes'... quite heavy as hell, probly more so than the combined songs from StyE... ANd a solo of all things! the song has a SOLO!... hahah alebit a short one... reminds me of 'Only for the Weak', 'Suburban Me', 'Swim'...and sum lil 'colony' hear and there...

I'd say it's quite a competent album.. yeah.. 72/100...


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Zad wrote:
Why does no-one like Callenish Circle? They're like new IF, but good.
I heard them and didn't like them =\


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