DEF LEPPARD

Stefan · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:17 am

Eyesore wrote:

stub wrote:

(especially when that someone obviously doesn't know Led Zep)

I know all about Led Zeppelin! Who's being ignorant here? I think they're overrated! Very simple. Has Jimmy Page ever played a solo he hasn't fucked up??

:shock:

:?

one of my fav' solo ever is Since I've Been loving you :cry:

I'll get your ass for that Eyesore ! :evil:

:wink:

Eyesore · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:16 am

Look, Jimmy Page is a great guitarist, but the dude is so sloppy it's not even funny.

Stefan · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:02 am

Eyesore wrote:

Look, Jimmy Page is a great guitarist, but the dude is so sloppy it's not even funny.

I've seen him on stage on the Page/Plant tour and he was just perfect... his problem with alcohol & drugs certainly didn't help in in the late 70's to early 90's (have you heard The Firm ? it's dreadful ! :( ) but since then he got himself together and rocks like a true real rock legend he is... imo you should check his live with The Black Crowes, it perfectly demonstrates how wrong you are... :twisted:

stub · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:07 am

T.I.E. wrote:

ouais, ça va

mais fais gaffe, tu deviens un vrai troll ici... déjà tu es péremptoire, ce qui est très courant chez les metalleux, je te le concède, mais je te pensais plus évolué

ensuite, il faut vraiment que tu apprennes à respecter les goûts des gens et à ne pas leur sauter à la gorge à tout boût de champ comme tu le fais...

c'est con, tu as plein de trucs à partager mais tu le fais avec des gros sabots et donc ça passe mal... je pense que tu sauras rectifier le tir

et, sinon, toi, ça va ?

Merci mec,t'es sympa,et de bon conseil...mais ça je le savais déja! :wink:

Mais ce gars là,il connait vraiment rien au rock(ni au heavy d'ailleurs),et il n'a meme pas le courage et l'honneteté de l'avouer!Vu comme il parle de Page,crois tu vraiment qu'il y connait quelque chose?Dois-je vraiment le tolérer?...Enfin,rien ne sert de s'énerver!

PS1 Regarde moi un peu rectifier le tir ,avec classe! :lol:

PS2 T'es injuste avec Rose Tatoo et The Angels(et Lynyrd Skynyrd aussi d'ailleurs)!Le rock'n'roll pur et dur merite mieux!

stub · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:16 am

Eyesore wrote:

stub wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Stub, shut the fuck up. Being ignorant of something and not liking something are two totally different things.

Agreed;and you belong to the "being ignorant" part of the population(as far as hard rock is concerned)... and to the "rude talking" part of the population as well!

I find it amazing that I was defending your idiotic ass recently. Ignorant? Again (in bold caps this time), NOT LIKING SOMETHING IS FAR DIFFERENT FROM BEING IGNORANT!! Do you understand that? How am I all of a sudden rude?? :shock:

Ok Ken,i give up!You know everything about Led Zeppelin(and about the other aformentioned rock bands),Jimmy Page is a bad guitarist,and you're a good guy....and Rick Allen is a great drummer...and your avatar is great as well!

BTW,thanks for having defended my idiotic ass(no,you're not rude at all :lol:

):i was in great need for helb,being attacked by the warriors of steel(Metallness and Metal Storm) :twisted:

stub · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:21 am

T.I.E. wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Look, Jimmy Page is a great guitarist, but the dude is so sloppy it's not even funny.

I've seen him on stage on the Page/Plant tour and he was just perfect... his problem with alcohol & drugs certainly didn't help in in the late 70's to early 90's (have you heard The Firm ? it's dreadful ! :( ) but since then he got himself together and rocks like a true real rock legend he is... imo you should check his live with The Black Crowes, it perfectly demonstrates how wrong you are... :twisted:

Quelle putain de coincidence?Cette nuit(a peu prés au meme moment que tu postait "ton reply"),je m'écoutais pour la première fois le Live at the Greek!Quel putain de disque magnifique!Il faut vraiment que je me mette aux Black Crows!

Stefan · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:29 am

stub wrote:

PS2 T'es injuste avec Rose Tatoo et The Angels(et Lynyrd Skynyrd aussi d'ailleurs)!Le rock'n'roll pur et dur merite mieux!

non, je suis pas injuste... j'aime beaucoup les vieux albums des Angels et de Rose Tatoo (j'ai plus de mal avec Skynyrd, le côté redneck et les règlements de compte avec Neil Young sans doute) et, en fait, tu n'as pas cité un seul mauvais groupe... simplement il faut savoir faire la différence entre ses goûts et ce qui a été vraiment important (influant)

quand à Eyesore, je crois que tu te trompes et que vous êtes parti du mauvais pied... louables sont tes efforts pour calmer le jeu mais moyennement convaincant je dirais :wink:

stub · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:49 am

T.I.E. wrote:

stub wrote:

PS2 T'es injuste avec Rose Tatoo et The Angels(et Lynyrd Skynyrd aussi d'ailleurs)!Le rock'n'roll pur et dur merite mieux!

non, je suis pas injuste... j'aime beaucoup les vieux albums des Angels et de Rose Tatoo (j'ai plus de mal avec Skynyrd, le côté redneck et les règlements de compte avec Neil Young sans doute) et, en fait, tu n'as pas cité un seul mauvais groupe... simplement il faut savoir faire la différence entre ses goûts et ce qui a été vraiment important (influant)

quand à Eyesore, je crois que tu te trompes et que vous êtes parti du mauvais pied... louables sont tes efforts pour calmer le jeu mais moyennement convaincant je dirais :wink:

Et meme plus petit que moyennement convaincants! :lol:

Thy Serpent · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:57 pm

I have just a couple of Def Leppard albums, Slang and a greatest hits compilation. Have to pick some more DL. Slang is highly underrated. A very good album. I would give it an 82/100.

Eyesore · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:17 pm

Thy Serpent wrote:

I have just a couple of Def Leppard albums, Slang and a greatest hits compilation. Have to pick some more DL. Slang is highly underrated. A very good album. I would give it an 82/100.

It is. You should hear how heavy the original version of "Truth?" is. Holy crap! They actually have a lot of unreleased songs that are heavy. Too bad they don't put them on albums.

Stefan · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:20 pm

Eyesore wrote:

Thy Serpent wrote:

I have just a couple of Def Leppard albums, Slang and a greatest hits compilation. Have to pick some more DL. Slang is highly underrated. A very good album. I would give it an 82/100.

It is. You should hear how heavy the original version of "Truth?" is. Holy crap! They actually have a lot of unreleased songs that are heavy. Too bad they don't put them on albums.

ho man ! I need those non-album songs !!! where can I find it ?

Eyesore · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:06 pm

T.I.E. wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Thy Serpent wrote:

I have just a couple of Def Leppard albums, Slang and a greatest hits compilation. Have to pick some more DL. Slang is highly underrated. A very good album. I would give it an 82/100.

It is. You should hear how heavy the original version of "Truth?" is. Holy crap! They actually have a lot of unreleased songs that are heavy. Too bad they don't put them on albums.

ho man ! I need those non-album songs !!! where can I find it ?

There are way too many to post here. Do you have Soulseek? Here a few rare tracks:

TRUTH? (Original Demo)
WARCHILD (1978 Demo)
TOMORROW SEEMS LIKE YESTERDAY (1978 Demo of "Sorrow Is A Woman")
GLAD I'M ALIVE (1979 Demo)

I think they've changed a little bit since those demos, eh?

Stefan · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2006 9:08 pm

Eyesore wrote:

T.I.E. wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Thy Serpent wrote:

I have just a couple of Def Leppard albums, Slang and a greatest hits compilation. Have to pick some more DL. Slang is highly underrated. A very good album. I would give it an 82/100.

It is. You should hear how heavy the original version of "Truth?" is. Holy crap! They actually have a lot of unreleased songs that are heavy. Too bad they don't put them on albums.

ho man ! I need those non-album songs !!! where can I find it ?

There are way too many to post here. Do you have Soulseek? Here a few rare tracks:

TRUTH? (Original Demo)
WARCHILD (1978 Demo)
TOMORROW SEEMS LIKE YESTERDAY (1978 Demo of "Sorrow Is A Woman")
GLAD I'M ALIVE (1979 Demo)

I think they've changed a little bit since those demos, eh?

thx man... I'll add my comment asap !

EDIT
more more more !!!

that was good indeed, suprisingly rocky but definitely good !

NP
Darkthrone - Too cold, Too old (wOOt)

MetalStorm · **Posted:** Fri Jan 20, 2006 4:43 am

Eyesore wrote:

Thy Serpent wrote:

I have just a couple of Def Leppard albums, Slang and a greatest hits compilation. Have to pick some more DL. Slang is highly underrated. A very good album. I would give it an 82/100.

It is. You should hear how heavy the original version of "Truth?" is. Holy crap! They actually have a lot of unreleased songs that are heavy. Too bad they don't put them on albums.

I'm probably the only one around here that thinks Slang is one of their worst next to X.I just didn't like the overall sound they were going for the songs were just uninspiring to me that's just my opinion though.

Anonymous · **Posted:** Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:02 am

MetalStorm wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Thy Serpent wrote:

I have just a couple of Def Leppard albums, Slang and a greatest hits compilation. Have to pick some more DL. Slang is highly underrated. A very good album. I would give it an 82/100.

It is. You should hear how heavy the original version of "Truth?" is. Holy crap! They actually have a lot of unreleased songs that are heavy. Too bad they don't put them on albums.

I'm probably the only one around here that thinks Slang is one of their worst next to X.I just didn't like the overall sound they were going for the songs were just uninspiring to me that's just my opinion though.

I think it's merely allright, just nothing that is worth my time to listen to. It's like we are supposed to congratulate them on coming up with an album that didn't utterly suck.

I think you could take the best songs from Adrenalize onwards and make a single decent Def Leppard album.

Eyesore · **Posted:** Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:15 am

HumanTorch wrote:

MetalStorm wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Thy Serpent wrote:

I have just a couple of Def Leppard albums, Slang and a greatest hits compilation. Have to pick some more DL. Slang is highly underrated. A very good album. I would give it an 82/100.

It is. You should hear how heavy the original version of "Truth?" is. Holy crap! They actually have a lot of unreleased songs that are heavy. Too bad they don't put them on albums.

I'm probably the only one around here that thinks Slang is one of their worst next to X.I just didn't like the overall sound they were going for the songs were just uninspiring to me that's just my opinion though.

I think it's merely allright, just nothing that is worth my time to listen to. It's like we are supposed to congratulate them on coming up with an album that didn't utterly suck.

I think you could take the best songs from Adrenalize onwards and make a single decent Def Leppard album.

That's crazy. Euphoria had some killer tunes on it, man. Aside from the weird ones like "All Night" and "21st Century Sha La La La Girl" (what kind of fucking title is that?), that album was excellent. Songs like "Day By Day" and "Paper Sun" were old school, heavy, long solos, that album was great. X was terrible. Two good songs, the rest was top 40 shit that could have been NSync songs. Adrenalize was also a good album, very tongue-in-cheek, though. Had it come out in 1989 it would have fared better, but in 1992 (I think that's when it came out) music had taken a huge "serious" turn and song like "Let's Get Rock" and "Make Love (Like A Man)" just didn't get accepted as well. Of course, that album did sell a lot of copies.

Anonymous · **Posted:** Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:44 pm

Eyesore wrote:

HumanTorch wrote:

MetalStorm wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Thy Serpent wrote:

I have just a couple of Def Leppard albums, Slang and a greatest hits compilation. Have to pick some more DL. Slang is highly underrated. A very good album. I would give it an 82/100.

It is. You should hear how heavy the original version of "Truth?" is. Holy crap! They actually have a lot of unreleased songs that are heavy. Too bad they don't put them on albums.

I'm probably the only one around here that thinks Slang is one of their worst next to X.I just didn't like the overall sound they were going for the songs were just uninspiring to me that's just my opinion though.

I think it's merely allright, just nothing that is worth my time to listen to. It's like we are supposed to congratulate them on coming up with an album that didn't utterly suck.

I think you could take the best songs from Adrenalize onwards and make a single decent Def Leppard album.

That's crazy. Euphoria had some killer tunes on it, man. Aside from the weird ones like "All Night" and "21st Century Sha La La La Girl" (what kind of fucking title is that?), that album was excellent. Songs like "Day By Day" and "Paper Sun" were old school, heavy, long solos, that album was great. X was terrible. Two good songs, the rest was top 40 shit that could have been NSync songs. Adrenalize was also a good album, very tongue-in-cheek, though. Had it come out in 1989 it would have fared better, but in 1992 (I think that's when it came out) music had taken a huge "serious" turn and song like "Let's Get Rock" and "Make Love (Like A Man)" just didn't get accepted as well. Of course, that album did sell a lot of copies.

Ha! I knew that'd get a response :wink:

I agree there are some decent songs, that's why I said there was enough so you could throw them all together for a decent album.

But it just can't compare to the old stuff... I saw them in concert about a year ago (they opened with Let It Go - awesome!) and the crowd response to everything from Hysteria and before was like an order of magnitude greater than the new stuff, except for maybe Let's Get Rocked which sounds great live. Although I'm glad they played 'Two Steps Behind', it gave me a chance to go get a beer!

Eyesore · **Posted:** Fri Jan 20, 2006 8:01 pm

Well, I'm quite the fanboy, but not a retarded one. If I were I'd be defending X by saying it's a great album. A lot of DL fans claim it is. It's horrible horseshit.

Anyway, I don't know why they don't play more older songs. They think they have to play the hits. No, you don't. They were playing "Another Hit And Run" the last time they toured! Holy fuck that song is awesome. People loved it. When they did the VH1 Storytellers show, people were screaming for "Wasted," they played the opening riff, people went nuts and they stopped. WTF? I like the new stuff, but you play what the fans want. I would love to hear "Overture" live, I think that would be a killer song for a metal band to cover.

MetalStorm · **Posted:** Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:47 am

On Through The Night,High 'N' Dry&Pyromania-excellent NWOBHM albums

Hysteria&Adrenalize-excellent pop rock albums

Slang-sucks

Euphoria-decent

X-sucks even worse then Slang

That's how I feel by the way Eyesore how can you not include Adrenalize that is a great album.

Eyesore · **Posted:** Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:59 am

MetalStorm wrote:

That's how I feel by the way Eyesore how can you not include Adrenalize that is a great album.

What do you mean? Adrenalize is a damn good album! Did I leave it off my list?

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