Metal Reviews

Newest and Best Metal Reviews!
FAQ :: Search :: Members :: Groups :: Register
Login
It is currently Wed Jun 25, 2025 10:47 am



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 21 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next   
Author Message
 Post subject: Update on the new Machine Head Album
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:08 am 
For those of you who like Machine Head, I found this interview with Rob Flynn regarding their upcoming album:

MACHINE HEAD frontman Robert Flynn recently took time out to update the group's fans on the songwriting process for the group's new album, tentatively due in late 2006/early 2007 via Roadrunner Records.

"So what does are new shit sound like?" Flynn wrote.

"Well... it doesn't sound like [METALLICA's] 'Master of Puppets' [as Flynn was quoted as saying in a Revolver magazine article] all that much... at least yet. I guess I'll try and explain it like this. It's pretty varied, has elements of all the records, and has a semi-'Through the Ashes of Empires'-ish vibe, and definitely NOT a 'Burn My Eyes Pt. II' vibe. It's not 'back to the roots.' We have about four songs that I think are 80% to 90% there musically (not lyrically), and we have another 9 or 10 parts (intros / bridges / verse with a chorus / half songs) floating about that are definitely NOT there. As of now (Jan. 9th, 2006), we have no 'Imperium's or 'Descend the Shades' and our feeling is that if we can't come up with a new 'Imperium' that kicks the old 'Imperium''s ass...well...we're just gonna try something else.

"Of the four songs I'm really excited about, Dave [McClain, drums], Phil [Demmel, guitar] or myself have written the bulk, and Adam [Duce, bass] has brought in lyrics and a chunk of riffs too. Even though Phil was there for part of the writing process of 'Through the Ashes of Empires' (and co-wrote three songs), Phil being part of the whole writing process is adding another, very cool dimension to it all. In fact, the one song that I'm most excited about was penned largely by Phil, with me adding some melodic three-part guitar harmonies / two-part vocal harmonies in the bridge, plus a SEPULTURA-style thrash / lead part in the middle, Dave's added some Keith Moon-style drumming in the bridge which sounds crazy, but kicks serious ass, and Adam is hitting some ball-squeezing high notes that will have Rob Halford smiling (...about the high notes, not the ball-squeezing *cough*). Since we don't have many titles right now, that one I just mentioned is jokingly called 'In The Presence Of Davidian Jr.' (mainly for its mid tempo). The bridge to this song is on some serious U2-gonna-make-you-cry-worthy-ness.

"I think most of you will be interested to know that … a lot of the lyrics had taken on a more social nature, and a less personal tone (at least for now). They have also taken on a very depressing nature as well — though I don't know why — it's just what I've been feeling like writing about. The lyrics that I think are really working well are the ones that are the most depressing, including some about suicide, or the idea of suicide.

"Of the other songs, 'Iron Rush-ian' (as it is called by our manager 'cause it has a MAIDEN / RUSH vibe to it) was the first completed of the four. We like to call it 'Notey Intro / Mega In Chains'. It has a cool up-tempo vibe, a part that reminds me of old MEGADETH a little, big 'The More Things Change…'-era breakdown in the middle, dual leads... it's rockin'... but has no lyrics.

"There's 'Priest Harbor -aka- Victim Of Changes III', which has an 'Elegy'-ish vibe to it, though longer and more complex, it has a very melodic PRIEST-ish chorus, cool build-ups, and heavy breakdowns, fast parts, leads, harmonies galore, and vox harmonies galore too. Overall it's pretty melodic musically / vocally and I could see RR eyeing this for a single, though at six minutes that'll be a stretch.

"The fourth song is jokingly called 'The Thrash-terpiece!', and it's what the name implies, fast as all hell, with a full-on 'Blood For Blood' / 'Struck a Nerve' / Bay Area thrash vibe to it. Probably the fastest song we've written in 10 years, and though it doesn't sound like it, is probably the most difficult song (guitar-wise) we've ever attempted to play (down-picking / million-note mania). Cool, very complex bridge / lead section that takes it in a musically melodic direction, with trade-off leads and harmonies. No singing at all, just hard vox. It's the one song that is also the most finished lyrically, and the only song with an actual title. It's called 'Aesthetics of Hate' and it's my take on neo-con and Dimebag critic William Grim, and people like him. Some of you may remember that the song 'Independent' (Max's [Cavalera] and my song from the 'Roadrunner United' album) was very loosely based on the same topic. This is my much more pointed, specific and pissed off take on it.

"You've probably seen the word 'complex' pop up a buncha times, and it's fitting. It's musically complex, though it doesn't sound it, and that seems like a good thing.

"The guys have unanimously chosen 'your boy here' to produce the album again, and between 'Through the Ashes of Empires' and my production work on the 'Roadrunner United' album, I feel really confident going into this next record.

"We took a break for the Roadrunner [anniversary] party / holidays and began jamming the other day for the first time in six weeks... WHEW... YIKES! To quote Lemmy, 'If we practiced next to your house, we would have killed your lawn!' We'll get back into it though, and I feel like the break did us good, gave us perspective."


Through The Ashes Of Empires was one of those albums I absolutely LOVED when I first bought it, but got old after about four or so listens (though may be my interest in the album will return after if I listen to it again for the first time in almost three months). This new album sounds like it will definitely be worth checking out, but then again Fear Factory made similar statements about Transgression....


Top
  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:21 am 
Offline
Ist Krieg
User avatar

Joined: Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:37 pm
Posts: 7932
Location: Glasgow
Every time I see an interview/press statement from Robbbbb Flynn I count how many words it takes for a swear word to appear. Wow, he got as far as six this time. Usually he opens with "Hey fukkerzzz!"[/inflammatory bastard]


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:38 am 
This posting from him is weird. It start off almost sounding like they're setting us up for another The Burning Red, but then when he describes the individual songs it sounds like they're going to pretty heavy. Weird.

I don't care to hear what bands say about their music while they're writing/recording it. It's usually extremely inaccurate. After Through The Ashes Of Empires I'm really expecting something heavy.


Top
  
 
 Post subject: Re: Update on the new Machine Head Album
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:00 am 
Seinfeld26 wrote:
"So what does are new shit sound like?" Flynn wrote.


Slayer of Kings mused, then answered: "Like shit".


Top
  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 3:35 pm 
Offline
MetalReviews Staff
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:02 pm
Posts: 29894
Location: UK
They have to call it "Deep Purple". If they don't, they're gay.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:41 pm 
Zad wrote:
They have to call it "Deep Purple". If they don't, they're gay.

I heard they're gonna call it Bush.


Top
  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 6:45 pm 
Offline
Karma Whore
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:24 pm
Posts: 3233
Location: America
I can hear all of Machine Head's idiot fans now:

OMG! Return to form! Roxorzzz!!!111!!!

When will bands like this learn, just because you downtune to ridiculous levels, scream, and have "angry" lyrics, that doesn't make you Heavy. Or Metal.

I've never heard this band do anything but bad Pantera worship, and yet people hail them as some sort of originators.

"Let freedom ring with a shotgun blast! RAAARGGH!" Yeah, fucking poetry right there.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 6:47 pm 
Offline
MetalReviews Staff
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:02 pm
Posts: 29894
Location: UK
Eyesore wrote:
Zad wrote:
They have to call it "Deep Purple". If they don't, they're gay.

I heard they're gonna call it Bush.


You missed my joke. There was a band called Deep Purple who made an album called Machine Head, geddit?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:17 pm 
Zad wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Zad wrote:
They have to call it "Deep Purple". If they don't, they're gay.

I heard they're gonna call it Bush.


You missed my joke. There was a band called Deep Purple who made an album called Machine Head, geddit?

Nay, I got your joke. You missed mine. Bush has a song called "Machine Head."


Top
  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:18 pm 
Eternal Idol wrote:
I can hear all of Machine Head's idiot fans now:

OMG! Return to form! Roxorzzz!!!111!!!

When will bands like this learn, just because you downtune to ridiculous levels, scream, and have "angry" lyrics, that doesn't make you Heavy. Or Metal.

I've never heard this band do anything but bad Pantera worship, and yet people hail them as some sort of originators.

"Let freedom ring with a shotgun blast! RAAARGGH!" Yeah, fucking poetry right there.

That's all I believe out of what you just wrote. They sound NOTHING like Pantera! Nothing.


Top
  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:27 pm 
Offline
Karma Whore
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:24 pm
Posts: 3233
Location: America
Eyesore wrote:
Eternal Idol wrote:
I can hear all of Machine Head's idiot fans now:

OMG! Return to form! Roxorzzz!!!111!!!

When will bands like this learn, just because you downtune to ridiculous levels, scream, and have "angry" lyrics, that doesn't make you Heavy. Or Metal.

I've never heard this band do anything but bad Pantera worship, and yet people hail them as some sort of originators.

"Let freedom ring with a shotgun blast! RAAARGGH!" Yeah, fucking poetry right there.

That's all I believe out of what you just wrote. They sound NOTHING like Pantera! Nothing.


As in the riffing, they do.. Groove-oriented bullshit, that Dimebag could've shit out with 4 fingers missing, and a case of Avian Flu. I bought into the hype, brought Burn My Eyes home, and got a 4th-rate Pantera wanna-be. Shitty riffs+shitty lyrics=shitty band. Don't take your shitty taste out on me buddy. Try listening to some REAL Metal sometime, you might like it.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:48 pm 
Eternal Idol wrote:
I can hear all of Machine Head's idiot fans now:

OMG! Return to form! Roxorzzz!!!111!!!

When will bands like this learn, just because you downtune to ridiculous levels, scream, and have "angry" lyrics, that doesn't make you Heavy. Or Metal.

I've never heard this band do anything but bad Pantera worship, and yet people hail them as some sort of originators.

"Let freedom ring with a shotgun blast! RAAARGGH!" Yeah, fucking poetry right there.


I wonder if I'm the only person who thought Flynn's delivery of that line sounded really forced and borderline corny. It's a cool song lyric, don't get me wrong. But the way Flynn says it sounds like he's trying a little too hard to sound tough/hardcore.


Last edited by Seinfeld26 on Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:50 pm 
Eyesore wrote:
Eternal Idol wrote:
I can hear all of Machine Head's idiot fans now:

OMG! Return to form! Roxorzzz!!!111!!!

When will bands like this learn, just because you downtune to ridiculous levels, scream, and have "angry" lyrics, that doesn't make you Heavy. Or Metal.

I've never heard this band do anything but bad Pantera worship, and yet people hail them as some sort of originators.

"Let freedom ring with a shotgun blast! RAAARGGH!" Yeah, fucking poetry right there.

That's all I believe out of what you just wrote. They sound NOTHING like Pantera! Nothing.


I don't know. I thought Burn My Eyes sounded pretty Pantera-esque (not a complaint, btw). Except a little more "electronic sounding."


Top
  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:57 pm 
Offline
Jeg lever med min foreldre

Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2004 6:26 pm
Posts: 5736
Location: São Paulo and Lisboa
MH are a good band but not as good as some people say they are... for starters half of their songs are damn near impossible to sit through. just too slow, and when they try to go "groovy" it's nowhere near as good as pantera.

but, but, but, when they go "fast" like in davidian and blood for blood (after the unnecessarily long intros..), they kill.

but i agree with one thing Eyesore said, that thing about them commenting on their new album. if i got a penny for everytime someone says "this is our fastes/heaviest/whatever album ever"...

_________________
noodles wrote:
live to crush


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 9:01 pm 
Azrael wrote:
MH are a good band but not as good as some people say they are... for starters half of their songs are damn near impossible to sit through. just too slow, and when they try to go "groovy" it's nowhere near as good as pantera.

but, but, but, when they go "fast" like in davidian and blood for blood (after the unnecessarily long intros..), they kill.

but i agree with one thing Eyesore said, that thing about them commenting on their new album. if i got a penny for everytime someone says "this is our fastes/heaviest/whatever album ever"...


For the record, I don't think it's entirely a marketing ploy when bands do that. I think a lot of them are seriously proud of their work and (to a degree) mean what they say. Of course, it is ultimately up to the fans to decide how good an album really is. Case in point - St. Anger. Metallica themselves seriously thought it was their best album yet, but almost everybody else thought it was their worst.


Top
  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 9:22 pm 
Well, Machine Head did say they were going back to their roots with Through The Ashes Of Empires and I didn't believe it, but they sure as hell did.

As for the Pantera comparison, I don't really hear it. They both play that thrashy, power groove style, but that's where the comparison ends. I'm sure I could find similarities beyond that, but that's just digging a little too deep, I think.


Top
  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:10 pm 
Offline
MetalReviews Staff
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:02 pm
Posts: 29894
Location: UK
This is going to become another "Machine Head suxx lawl" thread...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:16 pm 
Offline
MetalReviews Staff
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:58 pm
Posts: 1999
Location: Frownland
machine head suxx lawl.

perhaps there should be a weekly thread called "flame a popular band".. I know I'd take the time to bury children of bodom in a towering pile of insults.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:23 pm 
Offline
Ist Krieg
User avatar

Joined: Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:37 pm
Posts: 7932
Location: Glasgow
Pffft....you could try. :P


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:40 pm 
Offline
MetalReviews Staff
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:02 pm
Posts: 29894
Location: UK
lizardtail wrote:
machine head suxx lawl.

perhaps there should be a weekly thread called "flame a popular band".. I know I'd take the time to bury children of bodom in a towering pile of insults.


Good idea! I say Super Furry Animals in for the first one!


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 21 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next   


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group