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Italian judge orders priest to prove that jesus existed.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/ ... 13,00.html

This guy is my new hero!

This might help him:

www.jesusneverexisted.com

BAH! Maybe he existed. Who cares really ?

the perfect answer!

Jeez, is everyone here on their period or what? I just thought it was an interesting piece of news. Tongue planted in cheek with the thread title BTW.

Serious discussions don't go down well here. You have to joke about everything if you want to fit in with the locals.

Interesting story, but I have to wonder how stuff like this ever ends up in court.

Sorry guys. That wasn't my intention at all. I just don't really care.

And zad you know I don't fuck around in serious discussions.

Relax. That wasn't aimed at you.

every body needs prozac.


i thought that was pretty amuseing

I am not proud to be Italian anymore..

You should be.

This should prove interesting. Thanks for the post.

Well, there is basic proof that a man named Jesus did exist. Chances are, however, that he was a Jewish rabbi who was trying to focus on the main message of Judaism (ie: Love your neighbour, etc...) instead of on the insane amount of rituals that some groups (such as the Pharisees) were practicing at that time, alienating poorer Jews. That being said, most of the conflict between Jesus and the Pharisees in the Bible is probably made up.

But that judge does rule incredibly.

I thought there was proof that the man excisted, but not that he had anything to do with preaching about God and all.

There isn't really any proof at all for Jesus' existence, even in the 'non-son-of-God' way most people push around.

The 'proof' that many speak of has to do with mentions in certain philosophy books that were later proven to have been fabricated by the Church. And the Bible is of course, not evidence.

So... FYI.

What I was going to say. And the "Pharisees" given such a bad name by the NT were the religious section; Saducees being a kind of "Reform" Judaism. Interesting topic, indeed.

There are a couple of historical references by Josephus but their authenticity is in doubt. All other references are well after his life, so they could just be unknowingly referring to the myth.

You'd think a Jewish upstart who caused so much trouble would get a mention, wouldn't you? Incredible how many people have been taken in, and the amount of blood spilt over it.

I wouldn't say that Jesus ever caused a lot of trouble. If the NT is to be believed, then he caused trouble at the Temple and drew large crowds to himself. This would be a pertinent reason for the Romans to execute him (and the high priests to hand him over, so that one would die instead of a whole people as E.P. Sanders maintains in his "The Historical Figure of Jesus), but it wouldn't really mean he caused a large amount of trouble in comparison to others being executed at the same time.