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I never took them seriously at all. A hardcore band playing Classic metal? They're taking the piss, just like 3 Inches Of Blood.

Have you ever heard 3IoB in interview? They get almost violently pissed off when someone suggests that. If it wasn't for their Metalcore vocalist they would be considered a Power Metal band with no questions asked.

As for A7X (X? Even their nickname is hilarious), well just keep the classic commments coming guys. Just wait 'til someone asks them a question about politics. :lol:


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I never took them seriously at all. A hardcore band playing Classic metal? They're taking the piss, just like 3 Inches Of Blood.


Have you ever heard 3IoB in interview? They get almost violently pissed off when someone suggests that. If it wasn't for their Metalcore vocalist they would be considered a Power Metal band with no questions asked.


I still say it's all a big joke. It must be a bit tongue-in-cheek. Anyway, I'll hunt down some interviews....


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Zad wrote:
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I never took them seriously at all. A hardcore band playing Classic metal? They're taking the piss, just like 3 Inches Of Blood.


Have you ever heard 3IoB in interview? They get almost violently pissed off when someone suggests that. If it wasn't for their Metalcore vocalist they would be considered a Power Metal band with no questions asked.


I still say it's all a big joke. It must be a bit tongue-in-cheek. Anyway, I'll hunt down some interviews....

Tongue in cheek is totally different.

Manowar, Dream Evil, DragonForce...none of them take themselves totally seriosuly (but Manowar will tell you they do), but that doesn't mean they aren't dedicated professionals. The same applies to 3IoB.


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I never took them seriously at all. A hardcore band playing Classic metal? They're taking the piss, just like 3 Inches Of Blood.


Have you ever heard 3IoB in interview? They get almost violently pissed off when someone suggests that. If it wasn't for their Metalcore vocalist they would be considered a Power Metal band with no questions asked.


I still say it's all a big joke. It must be a bit tongue-in-cheek. Anyway, I'll hunt down some interviews....

Tongue in cheek is totally different.

Manowar, Dream Evil, DragonForce...none of them take themselves totally seriously (but Manowar will tell you they do), but that doesn't mean they aren't dedicated professionals. The same applies to 3IoB.


Hmmmm. They're not that good a band.


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3 inches of blood rule. I remember the first time I heard them, I was completely blown away. Then I saw them live and was even more amazed. They are 100% true metal (whatever that means).


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Zad wrote:
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I never took them seriously at all. A hardcore band playing Classic metal? They're taking the piss, just like 3 Inches Of Blood.


Have you ever heard 3IoB in interview? They get almost violently pissed off when someone suggests that. If it wasn't for their Metalcore vocalist they would be considered a Power Metal band with no questions asked.


I still say it's all a big joke. It must be a bit tongue-in-cheek. Anyway, I'll hunt down some interviews....

Tongue in cheek is totally different.

Manowar, Dream Evil, DragonForce...none of them take themselves totally seriously (but Manowar will tell you they do), but that doesn't mean they aren't dedicated professionals. The same applies to 3IoB.


Hmmmm. They're not that good a band.


What does that have to do with whether or not they're being sincere?


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"Dedicated professionals".


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I never took them seriously at all. A hardcore band playing Classic metal? They're taking the piss, just like 3 Inches Of Blood.

I disagree. They're jumping on bandwagons! Are you suggesting that they didn't see how Shadows Fall got popular and decided to do the same? Their last abum was screamo-emo, which is what was popular at the time. This band is just following trends.

3 Inches Of Blood are legit. They may have that cheesy, fantasy thing going, but they're definitely legit. I suggest you find Battlecry Under A Winter Sun.


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"Dedicated professionals".

So people in poor bands (which I'm not saying 3IoB are) all lack dedication? Nonsense.


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"Dedicated professionals".

So people in poor bands (which I'm not saying 3IoB are) all lack dedication? Nonsense.

I must admit, Zad's on a roll today! :roll:


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"Dedicated professionals".

So people in poor bands (which I'm not saying 3IoB are) all lack dedication? Nonsense.

I must admit, Zad's on a roll today! :roll:


:roll: back at you. I don't think the band are as worthy as people say they are, that's all. So they released a rather average album with same-y songs, doesn't mean they're automatically Christ's second coming.
Is "Battlecry" better than "Advance And Vanquish"? As I said, I don't like the formula that much so I doubt I'll get it.


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Zad wrote:
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"Dedicated professionals".

So people in poor bands (which I'm not saying 3IoB are) all lack dedication? Nonsense.

I must admit, Zad's on a roll today! :roll:


:roll: back at you. I don't think the band are as worthy as people say they are, that's all. So they released a rather average album with same-y songs, doesn't mean they're automatically Christ's second coming.

But that's not the issue. The only reason we're talking about 3IoB is because you called them a sniggersome irony act.

As it happens, I prefer Battlecry to their second album, despite the weak production and inferior rhythm section.


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But that's not the issue. The only reason we're talking about 3IoB is because you called them a sniggersome irony act.

As it happens, I prefer Battlecry to their second album, despite the weak production and inferior rhythm section.


What can I say? To me, they look like a sniggersome irony act, with their beards, high vocals, and songs about orcs. I can't see their next album not being a piss-take, where can they take the concept next?


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But that's not the issue. The only reason we're talking about 3IoB is because you called them a sniggersome irony act.

As it happens, I prefer Battlecry to their second album, despite the weak production and inferior rhythm section.


What can I say? To me, they look like a sniggersome irony act, with their beards, high vocals, and songs about orcs. I can't see their next album not being a piss-take, where can they take the concept next?

The same place as all the Euro acts that do the same thing? Really, why is it any different for them? Because one of their singers looks a bit mallcore?

And my point in the above post was: fine, if you want to talk about how genuine the band are, let's do so. But don't skirt around the issue by talking about whether or not they're a good band or how repetitive their music is.


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The same place as all the Euro acts that do the same thing? Really, why is it any different for them? Because one of their singers looks a bit mallcore?

And my point in the above post was: fine, if you want to talk about how genuine the band are, let's do so. But don't skirt around the issue by talking about whether or not they're a good band or how repetitive their music is.


I'm not a major fan of the Euro acts either. But they just seem to have changed themselves deliberately to appeal to people just getting into "Old-school", like Trivium. The two and some other crappy lot went on a huge tour together, and the fact they're all on Roadrunner makes me very suspicious.


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The same place as all the Euro acts that do the same thing? Really, why is it any different for them? Because one of their singers looks a bit mallcore?

And my point in the above post was: fine, if you want to talk about how genuine the band are, let's do so. But don't skirt around the issue by talking about whether or not they're a good band or how repetitive their music is.


I'm not a major fan of the Euro acts either. But they just seem to have changed themselves deliberately to appeal to people just getting into "Old-school", like Trivium. The two and some other crappy lot went on a huge tour together, and the fact they're all on Roadrunner makes me very suspicious.


3 Inches of Blood did not change their sound! All three of their releases (that's counting the self-produced EP and indie label debut) have been classic Metal with the 'core vocals (which I don't really approve of, but hey if its the only way the guy can sing...). And yeah, they toured with Trivium. The label decides who you tour with. Better to tour to a of mixture of old schoolers and core kiddies than no one at all. Anyway, signing to Roadrunner is not automatically selling your soul. Opeth, Dragonforce, Type O Negative and such.


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They were deliberately marketed as something the "kidz" would enjoy. I'm not saying they're completely soulless, just being cynical.


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They were deliberately marketed as something the "kidz" would enjoy.


Show me.


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They were deliberately marketed as something the "kidz" would enjoy.


Show me.


Atticus sponsorship, radio airtime, being called the new Judas Priest, Roadrunner marketed them like hell, to cynically cash-in on the new generation of metal fans, who should be listening to proper classic metal rather than a weak copy, given hardocre vox deliberately to appeal to the 'core lot.


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Atticus sponsorship

I'm not sure what that is
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radio airtime

Metal on t'radio? Not in my day i tell thee
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being called the new Judas Priest

Yeah cause no other band gets OTT praise from their promoters,
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Roadrunner marketed them like hell, to cynically cash-in on the new generation of metal fans who should be listening to proper classic metal rather than a weak copy

Woah, now we're talking about Roadrunner? What does that have to do with the band? You think they devise their own marketing campaigns?
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given hardocre vox deliberately to appeal to the 'core lot.

This is the only one where you may have a point, but I'm not totally convinced. As I said above, if its the only way the guy can sing and he wants to be in a Trad Metal band, who am I to argue? By the way, he (Jamie) was the original singer, so he was not 'added' to appeal to anyone.


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