Metal Reviews

Yup, your history is accurate, in fact I just finished the new bio of the band this afternoon. It makes your French seem impressive! And we've got to do something about that webmail provider, we never received anything from you and it did that a few times already.

I'll check with our web hoster to see if we can change the mp3s. Thanks for the offer, but we'll whip them up ourselves .

Cool. My French is not good at all. Hahaha. I know enough to sort of understand what I'm reading. Words like Summer, Spring, Fall, etc. Not hard to figure out.

Actually: NO! Coz like I said, I just got annoyed while listening to the songs. I personally have no need to hear each song in full before making a decision to buy an album.



I kinda took the opposite view: because you are not Metallice etc. there's no need for such measures. But I see it's a double edged sword. And I perfectly understood why you put the interruptions there, but because all of this that's why I thought it would have been better to go with the "just put 1-2 mins samples of each songs and maybe ONE full song" approach This way people will get to hear quite enough of your music AND your music won't get leeched.



I'm not sure if this whole passage was directed at me, but just to make clear: I don't "shareazaa" anyone's albums, and I don't intend to, unless they are already available on the bands' respective websites.

Shhh! Don't yell.


Now that's just completely incorrect. Metallica are so massively popular that they still make a ton of money despite the downloaders. This band would suffer tremedously from such acts. That's not hard to figure out.

Yeah... I can see that too. Like I said just after my quoted sentence: "But I see it's a double edged sword." Meaning both views apply.

It's just curious that, at least from Finnish demo bands, majority of them offer ALL their demos in full at their sites or on a related site. I would never do that, I would like that the potential fan would have something left for a reason to buy as well. But it seems that many demo bands don't care too much about the sellings, just to spread the music out I suppose... :roll:

I also think it's strange for a band to offer their whole stuff except if 1) they have a record label who paid for the production (and so they don't mind losing potential sales - but then the label itself wouldn't want them to do that) 2) they home-produced everything and so it didn't cost them anything, therefore they can afford not to make any money at all or 3) someone in or close to the band is so rich they just don't care. But that seems far-fetched .

I do take your opinion regarding the samples and files format. Might be some change on the website in a few days

That's what Cellador did. On the demo it says "Recorded and Mixed at Cellador HQ." This is actually Chris and Mike recording in Chris' room, which is the reason why all of their songs from their demo are posted online. I know nobody cares, just felt like popping in with some useless Cellador facts.

Right, I saw that you wrote "double-edged sword," but I still don't see it working both ways, which is why I replied what I did.

I think with a demo it's different. Generally those are given away for free and always have been (the Promo 2005 EPs and whatnot). It's a way to get exposure. Some band's can afford the $2000 plus to print up a real CD and give it away, or sell it for like $2. Other bands can't. This Dreamcatcher CD, a lot of work was put into it. Any band wants to get their money back, or even make money on a product such as this.

:shock: Assholes! They charged me $6, too. Hmph! :evil:

I just ment this: "I kinda took the opposite view: because you are not Metallice etc. there's no need for such measures."
And then u said this: "Now that's just completely incorrect. Metallica are so massively popular that they still make a ton of money despite the downloaders."
-> hence the double edged sword! ok? :roll:



Here I was misunderstood greatly! I never ment that they should be made free!!! I just pointed out my observations in which many bands hand out their material as full mp3's freely to which I actually disagreed to! Obviously most bands put hard work to their demos/EPs, but maybe some are just more wealthy or whatnot coz they put all their demos/EPs on the net...

They had to get it mastered and printed copies of the cd itself. $300 to get it mastered and I think $75 for 200 copies of the demo. More useless info.

But there is such a need for those measures because most people who download don't buy the CD. Like I've said elsewhere, I own over 4,000 CDs and have very few MP3s, I have friend that own 3 CDs and have 50,000 MP3s. The average music fans are like my friends. Signed bands can hardly afford this, let alone unsigned bands.


Sorry. This comment wasn't direct at you, it was just a general comment bounced off other replies. I was just pointing out the difference between what Dreamcatcher has done and what other bands have done.

Market force: That which causes financially viable enterprises to flourish, and unviable ones to fail.

Guilt: Not an especially potent market force.

Thankfully, we have Black Metal which can tickle your innermost fancies on a meager budget and so will never die.

Pffft! That's an $825 profit. THEIVES!!

Hahaha. Just kidding, you know I'm just playing, right? I'm just running with a bad joke. I truly enjoy the EP. It's awesome.

Black metal tickles my colon like a Tabasco colonic. No thanks.

I know.

A Lower Deep's Trinity is the best release of 2005 from an unsigned band without question. The Winterfell is ok, and I do like the Cellador, but can't seem to get into Dreamcatcher.

Well, yeah... *running in circles, la la laa* :roll: