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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:36 am 
"Trinidad" fucking sucks. It could be the worst Edguy song ever.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:40 am 
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Eyesore wrote:
"Trinidad" fucking sucks. It could be the worst Edguy song ever.


Is it a ballad?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:49 am 
Eyesore wrote:
"Trinidad" fucking sucks. It could be the worst Edguy song ever.


I agree.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:49 am 
The_Voice wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
"Trinidad" fucking sucks. It could be the worst Edguy song ever.


Is it a ballad?

Um...yes and no, I'd say. It's slow, but it doesn't have the vibe of a ballad, I guess. There's no emotion. You'd just have to hear it. I can't stand it. I can appreciate the band trying something different because it does have a different feel to it—I can't recall any Edguy song that is similar—but it's just not good at all.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:15 am 
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I think they at least have to be applauded for evolving. Some bands sound the same forever, especially in power metal. At least Edguy tries different things. These things don't always work, and Tobi's the first one to admit that later when it does happen. I don't see the 80s stuff as being recycled to them only because they're a bit younger for the genre (was Tobi even 10 yet when the Keepers albums came out?), and to them, discovering some older material to bring into their sound likely seems pretty fresh from their POV. Their new producer also convinced them to experiment with the sound by having them all play together to get most of the tracks recorded, so this probably has alot to do with the overall tone of the album as well.

I like many of the songs so far but not as many as on HC. Still, I only listen to about half of Mandrake, and I believe it's rare for albums to be entirely strong throughout anyway. The "Mandyke" cover (as I like to call it) has grown on me too. We'll see whn I actually have the CD in my player and listen to it as I normally listen to music.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 7:58 am 
After many listens the past few days, here's my updated take...

EXCELLENT SONGS:
02. Rocket Ride
03. Wasted Time
04. Matrix
06. The Asylum
07. Save Me
10. Superheroes
12. Fucking With Fire

GREAT SONGS:
01. Sacrifice
05. Return To The Tribe
09. Out Of Vogue
08. Catch Of The Century

HORRIBLE SONG:
11. Trinidad

There it is. Is "excellent" and "great" the same? If so, change "excellent" to "super-duper." OK, I made this list originally at work after a few listens and I didn't have the album with me. Basically I feel the album has 7 excellent songs, 4 great songs and one song that's total filler.

Let's talk about "Trinidad," it's not a ballad, but a mid-tempo rocker that starts off slow. I've listened to this song so little I was mistaken, I'm not even sure I listened beyond the first chorus until tonight, all I know is that it's not very good, but I can actually see some people liking it. It's a very...bubbly and goofy kind of song, but not funny goofy, cheesy goofy. I don't know, not my thing, I guess. 89/100 for me, a hair shy of a masterpiece.

It can't be compared to Hellfire Club, though, this is essentially a metal-tinged rock album. It's a different beast altogether.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 2:24 pm 
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I really don't think Fucking With Fire is good at all. It's probably the most boring song on the album.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:59 pm 
Orion wrote:
I really don't think Fucking With Fire is good at all. It's probably the most boring song on the album.

No way! That's a killer rock song with a great chorus! :D


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:21 pm 
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Eyesore wrote:
"Trinidad" fucking sucks. It could be the worst Edguy song ever.


It actually is that bad. Maybe worse. Imagine closing an album with that? FWF being a bonus track and all.


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I'm going to be the only one i guess, but i actually enjoy Trinidad. For the type of song it is it's good.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:24 am 
Orion wrote:
I'm going to be the only one i guess, but i actually enjoy Trinidad. For the type of song it is it's good.

Well, I did say I can see people enjoying it. :D And by people I mean retards, of course. :roll: :wink:


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:26 am 
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and everybody who dislikes it are... whats the opposite of retards... genious?

omg i'm a genious


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:43 am 
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and everybody who dislikes it are... whats the opposite of retards... genious?

omg i'm a genious

Um...no. :roll:


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:42 am 
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haha i just heard 'Trinidad'. What's that in the background - a cat?!

oh; dear eyesore, i know you think highly of me, don't deny it!

is that a horrrible song or what?!


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:54 am 
I like bushy_beaver much better.

And yeah, terrible song. They'd better not make it a fucking single! :evil:


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