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 Post subject: Top 5 Best Thrash Metal Vocalists and Worst Metal Vocalists.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 6:27 pm 
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Best Thrash Vocalists
1.) Keith Dean (Holy Terror)/Paul Baloff (Exodus)
2.) Sean Killian (Violence)
3.) John Cyriis (Agent Steel)
4.) Bobby "Blitz" Ellsworth
5.) The guy from Blessed Death

Worst Metal Vocalists
1.) James Hetfield (Metallica)
2.) Don Dokken's little sister Jocaim Canns (Hammerfall)
3.) Phil Anselmo (Pantera)
4.) Danny Filth (Cradle of Filth)
5.) Anders Frieden (In Flames)


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 6:34 pm 
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Nice list of good thrash vocalists and bands you dislike...


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 6:38 pm 
Thrash vocalists

1. James Hetfield (Metallica)
2. Tom Araya (Slayer)
3. The guy from exodus.
4. The guy from testament on the "Low" CD.
???

Worst vocalists

1. Dani Filth


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 6:42 pm 
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you can debate wether Dani's vocals are nice to listen to, but it's crystal clear that he can produce inhumane sounds that very few vocalist are capable of, if they don't want to fvkk up their troaths for a month of so. Therefore, he's like someone doing extremely hard stuff with his guitar: Maybe it's not great to listen to, but someone who can do this is a good guitar player. At least not a bad one.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 6:46 pm 
Gast1 wrote:
you can debate wether Dani's vocals are nice to listen to, but it's crystal clear that he can produce inhumane sounds that very few vocalist are capable of, if they don't want to fvkk up their troaths for a month of so. Therefore, he's like someone doing extremely hard stuff with his guitar: Maybe it's not great to listen to, but someone who can do this is a good guitar player. At least not a bad one.


I would like Cradle of filth if he didn't do his high screaches, those piss me off.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 6:49 pm 
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yes, me too, but that does not mean he's a bad vocalist. Personally, I can't really listen to technical fuckfests like meshuggah or whatever, though that doesn't mean they are bad guitarists...


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 Post subject: Re: Top 5 Best Thrash Metal Vocalists and Worst Metal Vocali
PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 7:27 pm 
Holy_Terror wrote:
5.) Anders Frieden (In Flames)


His scream/growl is actually pretty good. His clean vocals, however, are terrible. Very very terrible.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 7:49 pm 
Steve Zetro Souza honestly beats out Paul Baloff for me.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:09 pm 
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Cans I think is very good, Hetfield is good too even though I hate Metallica.


Jay@MetalReviews wrote:
Steve Zetro Souza honestly beats out Paul Baloff for me.


me too


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:14 pm 
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Thrash vocalists:
1. Mark Osgueda (Death Angel)
2. Dave Mustaine (You know where he's from)
3. Tom Araya (see above)
4. Sean Killian (Only after you get used to him)
5. James Hetfield.

Worst vocalists:
1. That guy from Between the Buried and Me
2. Hetfield (modern)


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:47 pm 
Dead Machine wrote:
Worst vocalists:
1. That guy from Between the Buried and Me


I'm sorry, but you sir do not know shit about vocals.

Firstly, I AM a vocalist, and second, I have seen Between The Buried and Me live. He is freaking awesome.

The deep growl he does is not easy. It's much harder than screaming and most growling. Hitting that low is hard. Pushing it as much as he does, and still holding it is even more impressive. The higher scream is also very good and well controlled. He is better than 90% of screamers/growlers out there. And having seen them live, I can assure you he hits every note perfectly. The band itself is perfect live.

His singing is not phenomenal, but it is not bad either. It's better than most clear vocals I hear in metal or hardcore. It is really good on Mordecai however. And he also pulls off his clean vocals live without any variation.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:05 pm 
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Jay@MetalReviews wrote:
Steve Zetro Souza honestly beats out Paul Baloff for me.


I fully agree, but I hope you're not dissing our fellow poser friend Holy_terror? He'll drag you through the mud for this.

Baloff has become some kinda myth of course, but Souza sounds a hell of a lot meaner and angrier, if you know what I mean.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:18 pm 
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Dead Machine wrote:
Thrash vocalists:
1. Mark Osgueda (Death Angel)
2. Dave Mustaine (You know where he's from)
3. Tom Araya (see above)
4. Sean Killian (Only after you get used to him)
5. James Hetfield.

Worst vocalists:
1. That guy from Between the Buried and Me
2. Hetfield (modern)


Mark Osgueda at one?

In my opinion he's the one that is ruining Death Angel's music. After all those years he still sounds like an immature youngster of 14 years old. I really can't take him serious. I remember when I bought Act III many years ago, because it really got great reviews and that I was completely put off by his vocals.

But then again, it's all about personal taste.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:25 pm 
I've been told Dani FIlth uses some kind of filter on his real ultra-high screams. Not sure if that's true or not.

1. Chuck Billy
2. Mark Osgueda (I saw a dude at Target who looked just like him once)
3. James Hetfield
4. Tom Angelripper (though I know many may disagree)
5. Jens Carlsson (I guess Persuader's sorta thrash...)


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:41 pm 
Jaden wrote:
Firstly, I AM a vocalist

Finally, it's been awhile since I've seen you start an arguement with that.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:49 pm 
zefferon wrote:
Jaden wrote:
Firstly, I AM a vocalist

Finally, it's been awhile since I've seen you start an arguement with that.


A guitarist can better understand the technicality and skill level of a riff or solo. A good drummer knows that odd time signatures are much more impressive than double kicks. A vocalist can also dictate skill, control, range, etc with vocals. I said it for the sake of my argument.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:56 pm 
Yeah yeah yeah. Unfortunetly, singing is less about singing talent and more about personal opinion on the basic sound of the voice and vocal style. In my opinion, unless the person keeps fucking up with their voice(Anders Freiden live) then it's all just personal opinion weither a vocalist is good or bad.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:59 pm 
zefferon wrote:
Yeah yeah yeah. Unfortunetly, singing is less about singing talent and more about personal opinion on the basic sound of the voice and vocal style. In my opinion, unless the person keeps fucking up with their voice(Anders Freiden live) then it's all just personal opinion weither a vocalist is good or bad.


I half agree with that.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 1:34 am 
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Jaden wrote:

I'm sorry, but you sir do not know shit about vocals.

Firstly, I AM a vocalist, and second, I have seen Between The Buried and Me live. He is freaking awesome.

The deep growl he does is not easy. It's much harder than screaming and most growling. Hitting that low is hard. Pushing it as much as he does, and still holding it is even more impressive. The higher scream is also very good and well controlled. He is better than 90% of screamers/growlers out there. And having seen them live, I can assure you he hits every note perfectly. The band itself is perfect live.

His singing is not phenomenal, but it is not bad either. It's better than most clear vocals I hear in metal or hardcore. It is really good on Mordecai however. And he also pulls off his clean vocals live without any variation.


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Buddy, I don't like his vocals. They suck. I don't need to give a reason for it. It's personal taste.

I really don't care how technically accomplished his voice is if it sounds like shit to me.

So fuck off, and stop being such an arrogant jerk. When it comes to the issue of your being a vocalist and thus better able to judge the vocals, so what? I know what sounds good to me, and that doesn't sound good to me.

Therefore, to me, he's shit.

EDIT- One thing I forgot to mention...

If you're going to insult my taste in something, don't say "I'm sorry, but..." before. It's fucking stupid and not funny and doesn't make it any more polite.

Doctor of Metal wrote:
Mark Osgueda at one?

In my opinion he's the one that is ruining Death Angel's music. After all those years he still sounds like an immature youngster of 14 years old. I really can't take him serious. I remember when I bought Act III many years ago, because it really got great reviews and that I was completely put off by his vocals.

But then again, it's all about personal taste.


I love that guy's vocals. He can hit monstrously high notes. Reminds me of Halford.

And yes, it is about personal taste, something Jaden fails to realize.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 1:47 am 
Dead Machine wrote:
Doctor of Metal wrote:
Mark Osgueda at one?

In my opinion he's the one that is ruining Death Angel's music. After all those years he still sounds like an immature youngster of 14 years old. I really can't take him serious. I remember when I bought Act III many years ago, because it really got great reviews and that I was completely put off by his vocals.

But then again, it's all about personal taste.


I love that guy's vocals. He can hit monstrously high notes. Reminds me of Halford.

And yes, it is about personal taste, something Jaden fails to realize.


I love Osgueda, not only does he have a good range, but he can go between various styles of vocals better than a great deal of singers. But like was said, it's about personal taste.


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