Metal Reviews

These guys keep getting better and better. This is a very good album! A definate surprise

Haven't heard this new one yet, but if their previous is any indicator then i really don't want to here it.

After one listen, i have to say this is one of the weakest releases ive ever heard. Wonder when this american metalcore fades away. Its about time.

I hope it goes away soon. Seriously, Metalcore's worse than Nu-Metal. At least Nu-Metal was tolerable (to a point), but this shit's just unbearable. I don't think I could sit through another song with the SAME DAMN SWEDISH RIFF and those GODDAMN ANNOYING VOCALS THAT SUCK SO BAD AKSJDAHKGB.....

Yeah. I can't wait for the next strain of fake metal, I just wonder who it'll be ripping off this time. Probably Opeth, eh?

You genre snobs really close doors to yourself. Your comments make me laugh. The minute you hear the word metalcore you turn away.

The top shelf metalcore bands feature exteremely tight guitar riffs and well thought harmonies. These bands also feature soloists from the Skolnick school of playing. The songs are written in such a way as to not sound the same through out the album.

Metalcore seems to have replaced the thrash sound that metallica, etc owned before the grunge movement killed it. Sure you have Exodus and Testament (with no new stuff) and some newer bands like Carnal Forge and Dew-scented. With the exception of Exodus these newer thrash groups are just not putting out good stuff anymore. Listen to the songwritting on their latest releases. Exodus is pretty consistent but they are also predictable.

Saying metal core is bad is as silly as saying all underground is good. You have to sift through the good and bad based on the band's ability not a genre or an accessibilty factor.

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If this metalcore sound is what's replacing thrash, then who's the metalcore Voivod? Or Mekong Delta? Or Anacrusis? Or Coroner? Nothing from the core scene seems to be anywhere near as inventive or inspiring as those bands.

It's going to be hard to appease die-hard, headbanging thrash lovers with this incredibly tainted mockery of their old favourites..

I haven't heard this new album yet, but Gone Forever was a damn good CD. Anyone who claims that CD is standard issue metalcore needs to clean out their fucking ears. I hate metalcore as much as the next guy, but only the cookie cutters (As I Lay Dying, Every Time I Die, and 99.9% of the rest of the genre). God Forbid is fringe metalcore if anything.

However, TreasonWall, metalcore has replaced thrash?!!!!! I hope your tongue was firmly planted in cheek on that one. I can count the tolerable metalcore bands on three fingers. Conversely, I could rattle off all time greats from the thrash genre all day: Kreator, Sodom, Destruction, Morbid Saint, Slayer (pre-Divine Intervention), Vio-lence, Overkill, Coroner........

Metalcore has had plenty of time to distinguish itself as a worthwhile metal genre, and, while there are a few bands who have managed to rise above mediocrity (God Forbid included), the majority of it is utterly forgettable shit.

WHERE does this idiotic school of 'thought' come from?

I swear if I see metalcore being called modern thrash one more time my head might just explode.

When a style stays underground the groups are fueled by a select few "the initiated :roll: ." This creates stagnation in the style. There is no reason for a band to progress or become experiemental. The underground controls the necessity to compete. So basically you get a whole bunch of albums that sound similar. If an underground band tries to progress or experiement they fear to lose the 2 or 3 fans that keep the band afloat. Or you get that pathetic whiner crying sellout. Now this is only a generalization. I can think of many underground bands that do not fit this.

Metal in the states have become popular. There 100s of bands fighting to produce the most meaningful sound. When the dust settles there will be only a small handful that will survive. Those that dismiss this new metal scene are missing out. The competition is producing a few very solid acts. And every album they make is a step in a new direction. Many of the newer groups suck. But a few are incredible.

As far as thrash goes- that genre needs some groups to take it to a new level. Just do a search here for "thrash" scoring higher than a 90. how many albums in the past 5 years pop up?

What the hell does that have to do with anything? Old-style thrash is no longer played commonly or very well, so metalcore is now thrash. What kind of logic is that?

Old thrash is still better than most modern metalcore.

And metalcore is not goddamn 'modern thrash.' Nowadays it seems that people will call anything 'modern yadda yadda' to avoid using the suffix '-core.'

Besides, on this site, Kreator's Enemy of God scored above 90. Exodus's Tempo of the Damned scored a 99. And this is off the top of my head.

Next time, buddy, do some research to back up your bullshit claims before trumpeting them.

So your argument is that metalcore is everywhere and a good thrash score is tough to come by on this site? That's a pretty weak one. Give me five classic thrash albums and five "classic" metalcore (oxymoron?) albums that you feel are equal, then you may have a leg to stand on. The problem is, that is an impossible task. Just because there is less thrash now than there was 15 years ago does not mean that metalcore has replaced it. Your argument implies that metalcore is better than thrash, which constitutes metal blasphemy.

Destruction's Inventor of Evil scored a 90.

YIKES! Metal core did not ...should not...and could not replace trhrash. Its simply a response to the Thrash that was killed by grunge.

Thats what I meant to imply

*I edited my last post to better explain myself

Sure Kreator and Exodus are putting out thrash albums. They were around when it was conceived. Where is the quality new groups. The style is abandoned,,,save for just a few medicore bands that are just doing the same thing that was done years ago.

Your argument still makes no sense.

Metalcore is no more thrash than it is black metal. I just can't see where people are coming from when they compare the two.

I think when we use styles we have to use them loosely because there is so much grey area. and We also tend to use style names as insults.

It is no secret that melodic death metal like old in flames was born out of master of puppets era thrash. Since then melodeth divided into those that stay true to the original formula and those that search for the next sound.

MOP era thrash sunk in the 90's. In america, most metal is a response to MOP era thrash. A variation or consequence. Not a replacement and certainly not a copy. MOP had great guitar lines, leads, etc. Featured melodic components and the songs were often epic going from real fast to acoustic sections. Those influences are all part of the metal core scene. New components include more guitar harmonies (borrowed from melo-deth), more virtuoisic guitar solos (bordering on progressive), and the punk vocals (an american staple). Its a mixed bag. But stems from the early thrash in the 80s (specifically metallica, pantera, slayer, etc).

No its not exactly the same. It merely has its roots planted in thrash. If it were the same it would be pointless. We already own Slayer, etc.

Call me crazy, but I don't hear a shred of thrash influence in metalcore. The guitar sound is a shitty variation of death metal, while the vocals are an awful hybrid of punk and emo styles. Virtuosoic guitar solos?!! I don't think any of the metalcore lead guitarists will be remembered in later years for their superior axemanship. The only comparison you can make between metalcore and early 90's thrash is the mainstream popularity, and even that's a stretch. The vast majority of metalcore is too "paint by numbers".

i don't care what style of music you elitists put good decent heavy bands such as Trivium, God Forbid and Shadows Fall, I'm still going to enjoy it the same, and so are many others. the fans of these type of bands are many because they don't give a fucking shit about whether a few people on a forum dismiss it, they just love the bands for talent and good songs in decent albums. i love old metal such as 'Priest and Slayer but being young and getting into metal at the time of the NWOAHM im a fan of the better ''metalcore'' bands, mind you i am sarting to get sick of the genre overall and am starting to listen to bands like Porcupine tree, SikTH, Opeth, In Flames, Dimmu Borgir, DarkThrone etc etc. Just because theres a billion cookie cutter bands doing the rounds doesn't mean that the more popular bands are automatically shit, they got there because they WERENT doing generic, formulaic crap. Whether they do it in the future, time will tell. the new GF rox anyhoos :twisted: