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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:13 pm 
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Hmm, you don't sound like a person that has burned a church a year and a week ago. Or maybe you do, because Varg seems to have (had) a firm hand in your behavior. I'm quite curious how many black metal you have actually heard. As with Varg, you seem to be able to combine eloquency and good rethorics with deeds and opinions that seem to point at lesser intelligence. Crap in a wrap as I like to say. Are you into Naziism?


Likewise, if you take a piece of dog shit and cover it in frosting, it does not become cake.
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Gast1 wrote:
Hmm, you don't sound like a person that has burned a church a year and a week ago. Or maybe you do, because Varg seems to have (had) a firm hand in your behavior. I'm quite curious how many black metal you have actually heard. As with Varg, you seem to be able to combine eloquency and good rethorics with deeds and opinions that seem to point at lesser intelligence. Crap in a wrap as I like to say. Are you into Naziism?


Likewise, if you take a piece of dog shit and cover it in frosting, it does not become cake.
V.

Indeed, but looking at the wrap doesn't hurt, and if it makes good music, then I'll listen to the crap with all pleasure :wink:


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Gast1 wrote:
valefor wrote:
Gast1 wrote:
Hmm, you don't sound like a person that has burned a church a year and a week ago. Or maybe you do, because Varg seems to have (had) a firm hand in your behavior. I'm quite curious how many black metal you have actually heard. As with Varg, you seem to be able to combine eloquency and good rethorics with deeds and opinions that seem to point at lesser intelligence. Crap in a wrap as I like to say. Are you into Naziism?


Likewise, if you take a piece of dog shit and cover it in frosting, it does not become cake.
V.

Indeed, but looking at the wrap doesn't hurt, and if it makes good music, then I'll listen to the crap with all pleasure :wink:


If I'm not mistaken, even Varg disavowed his salad-day shenanigans, or perhaps I am thinking of something else?
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Easy English for the Dutch guy please...


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ok.... I got your message dude...


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If I'm not mistaken, even Varg disavowed his salad-day shenanigans, or perhaps I am thinking of something else?
V.


please...... :?


Please what?
You want to make this a constant confrontation, buddha boy?
Revel in your poseurdom and fuck off.
Or do you actually have something to say outside of yet another fucking genu-wine TIE poll?
Or maybe yiou can change your fucking avatar for the thousandth time, yeah, that;ll do the trick, and if not you can always resort to spanking off to your underage pornstarss... :roll: :cry: :lol: :D :twisted:
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Gast1 wrote:
Easy English for the Dutch guy please...


Well what I meant was, I thought Varg recently stated that the church burnings were a pointless immature act... I could be mistaken though; I have been awake for about twenty hours and have a grinding headache, so everything is hazy right now.
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why the grammar police attitude? it's not like one's opinion is more or less correct because it's all correctly written.

anyway, then perhaps the christians should go and show their opinion by burning down your house/hut/cardboard box. after all, they disagree with you, and they have to do something about it!

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The only reason you liken intellect to being effeminate is because you are obviously a knuckle-dragging troglodyte ... go ahead burn down more churches.. while you are at it, beat up a few old women as well, that should make you feel like a man.


Again with the bad grammar, it should be; 'The reason you liken intellect to effeminance...'. But no, that's not the reason at all. The reason is that a brute is a brute because he can be, because brutish activities are enough to amuse him and not because those that he brutalizes are somehow of a superior make up to him. of course, it's only natural for them to think that they are; 'intelligence' is the by product of fear, oppression and jealousy, it is a redirection of aggressive urges into a form that can be harmonized with the brute. The clever fellow appears as a reaction to the brute.

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I mean what kind of attention seeking buffon burns down an inanimate object and then goes online to brag about it?


'Brag?' Who's bragging? You people began a discussion of what I did, I think that it's only natural that I should make a contribution to such a discussion. You make it seem as though I logged onto this BB with singed eyebrows and a maniacal grin.

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...nor are your tired and cliched diatribes...


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This is tiresome and a bore, so have a nice day, I have nothing more to say to you.


Girl.


HAHA! I just looked at your pictuire... if any one looks girlish, it is you, you got some real pretty hair. Seriously you look quite the soft little faggot, hardly a "brute". You probably got anally raped daily in prison, right? I don't know what the prisons in Australia are like, but you'd last about two minutes in an American prison and would be traded back and forth by the real brutes like a cheap magazine... what a fucking joke.
If the world dissolved into anarchy, you would perish rather quickly, if your soft pasty appearance is any indication of your strength;
What do you benchpress, 50 lbs.? HAHAHAHA!!!
Little punkbastard.
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Seriously you look quite the soft little faggot,


No, I don't, but I can see how your hideously disfigured, mutilated, bulbous form may swing your opinion in that direction.

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If the world dissolved into anarchy, you would perish rather quickly,


Perhaps, perhaps not, difficult situations require both force and guile and although it may seem that I'm deprecating the latter, I'm not, really all that I am stating is that the latter comes when the former is absent, and that claiming the superiority of the latter over the former is an imbecilic exercise.


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Seriously you look quite the soft little faggot,


No, I don't, but I can see how your hideously disfigured, mutilated, bulbous form may swing your opinion in that direction.

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If the world dissolved into anarchy, you would perish rather quickly,


Perhaps, perhaps not, difficult situations require both force and guile and although it may seem that I'm deprecating the latter, I'm not, really all that I am stating is that the latter comes when the former is absent, and that claiming the superiority of the latter over the former is an imbecilic exercise.


Sure, whatever you say, Cuddles.
Getting drunk and than bragging to your freinds about burning down a church, now thats real guile, and clever, too... bravo, and bravo again. There is a time and place for bloodshed and destruction ( I am not adverse to those things, per se) but when all the destruction is over, well... what good is it if you are not INTELLECTUAL enough to create? You see, the brutes will be the minions by which the intellectually superior man will subject the sheep to his will, a tool if you prefer... and completely expendable. History shows us that, and the human mind works in, sadly, predictable patterns. That is why history just keeps repeating itself.
Also, brute strength (which I actually posses a bit of) and intellect (which is debatable, in my case, true) are not necessarily exclusive traits; I know thats too much for your puny wittle brain to digest, but trust me, it's true.
We agree on one thing, namely: monotheistic religion is a tool that has been used to enslave mankind. Hence, ridding the world of this bane is a noble, if unrealistic, cause.
And as for being a "Metal moderate" (actually I am apolitical) let me just say this: while you were sucking your mothers tit and making poo-poo (your words, not mine; refer to your initial post) in your diapers, I was drenching myself in blood, both my own and others', in and out if the pit, but then, something strange happened: I grew up and decided to develope my MIND, and my WILL, for therein lies the true power..
p.s. you do look quite the little pillow-biter, HAHAHA! sorry, but if you and I were ever to go toe-to-toe, you'd be a grease spot within a minute, you simply wouldn't have half a chance...
ta-ta!
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valefor wrote:
p.s. you do look quite the little pillow-biter, HAHAHA! sorry, but if you and I were ever to go toe-to-toe, you'd be a grease spot within a minute, you simply wouldn't have half a chance...
ta-ta!
V.


:lol:

Body...wanna feel my body?
Body...such a thrill my body
Body...wanna touch my body?
Body...it's too much my body
Check it out my body, body.
Don't you doubt my body, body.
talkin' bout my body, body,
check it out my body

Every man wants to be a macho macho man
to have the kind of body, always in demand
Jogging in the mornings, go man go
works out in the health spa, muscles glow
You can best believe that, he's a macho man
ready to get down with, anyone he can

Hey! Hey! Hey, hey, hey!
Macho, macho man (macho man)
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man
I've got to be a macho! Ow....

Macho, macho man
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man (yeah, yeah)
I've got to be a macho!

Body, its so hot, my body,
Body, love to pop my body,
Body, love to please my body,
Body, don't you tease my body,
Body, you'll adore my body,
Body, come explore my body,
Body, made by God, my body,
Body, it's so good, my body

You can tell a macho, he has a funky walk
his western shirts and leather, always look so boss
Funky with his body, he's a king
call him Mister Eagle, dig his chains
You can best believe that, he's a macho man
likes to be the leader, he never dresses grand

Hey! Hey! Hey, hey, hey!
Macho, macho man
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man
I've got to be a macho! (all right)

Macho, macho man (yeah, yeah)
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man
I've got to be a macho! All Right!

Ugh! Macho..baby!
Body, body, body wanna feel my body,
Body, body, body gonna thrill my body,
Body, body, body don'tcha stop my body,
Body, body, body it's so hot my body,

Every man ought to be a macho macho man,
To live a life of freedom, machos make a stand,
Have their own life style and ideals,
Possess the strength and confidence, life's a steal,
You can best believe that he's a macho man
He's a special person in anybody's land.

Hey! Hey! Hey, hey, hey!
Macho, macho man (macho man)
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man
I've got to be a macho! (dig the hair on my chest)

Macho, macho man (see my big thick mustache)
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man
I've got to be a macho! (Dig broad shoulders)

Macho, macho man (dig my muscles!)
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man
I've got to be a macho!

Macho, macho man
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man
I've got to be a macho! HEY!


V's hymn ? :roll:


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Man, i need some popcorn. Watching this debate is very entertaining.


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HellOnWheels wrote:
valefor wrote:
p.s. you do look quite the little pillow-biter, HAHAHA! sorry, but if you and I were ever to go toe-to-toe, you'd be a grease spot within a minute, you simply wouldn't have half a chance...
ta-ta!
V.


:lol:

Body...wanna feel my body?
Body...such a thrill my body
Body...wanna touch my body?
Body...it's too much my body
Check it out my body, body.
Don't you doubt my body, body.
talkin' bout my body, body,
check it out my body

Every man wants to be a macho macho man
to have the kind of body, always in demand
Jogging in the mornings, go man go
works out in the health spa, muscles glow
You can best believe that, he's a macho man
ready to get down with, anyone he can

Hey! Hey! Hey, hey, hey!
Macho, macho man (macho man)
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man
I've got to be a macho! Ow....

Macho, macho man
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man (yeah, yeah)
I've got to be a macho!

Body, its so hot, my body,
Body, love to pop my body,
Body, love to please my body,
Body, don't you tease my body,
Body, you'll adore my body,
Body, come explore my body,
Body, made by God, my body,
Body, it's so good, my body

You can tell a macho, he has a funky walk
his western shirts and leather, always look so boss
Funky with his body, he's a king
call him Mister Eagle, dig his chains
You can best believe that, he's a macho man
likes to be the leader, he never dresses grand

Hey! Hey! Hey, hey, hey!
Macho, macho man
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man
I've got to be a macho! (all right)

Macho, macho man (yeah, yeah)
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man
I've got to be a macho! All Right!

Ugh! Macho..baby!
Body, body, body wanna feel my body,
Body, body, body gonna thrill my body,
Body, body, body don'tcha stop my body,
Body, body, body it's so hot my body,

Every man ought to be a macho macho man,
To live a life of freedom, machos make a stand,
Have their own life style and ideals,
Possess the strength and confidence, life's a steal,
You can best believe that he's a macho man
He's a special person in anybody's land.

Hey! Hey! Hey, hey, hey!
Macho, macho man (macho man)
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man
I've got to be a macho! (dig the hair on my chest)

Macho, macho man (see my big thick mustache)
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man
I've got to be a macho! (Dig broad shoulders)

Macho, macho man (dig my muscles!)
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man
I've got to be a macho!

Macho, macho man
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man
I've got to be a macho! HEY!


V's hymn ? :roll:


Nah... I never could get into disco, alas.
My point is, this guy is going on about being a brute for the sake of being a brute and whatnot, then I actually click on his pictire and nearly died laughing... especially since his brilliant jab and thrust of saying that I am a girl for leaning towards the cerebral.
Those guys (Village People) are hilarious, though.
V.


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valefor wrote:
HellOnWheels wrote:
valefor wrote:
p.s. you do look quite the little pillow-biter, HAHAHA! sorry, but if you and I were ever to go toe-to-toe, you'd be a grease spot within a minute, you simply wouldn't have half a chance...
ta-ta!
V.


:lol:

Body...wanna feel my body?
Body...such a thrill my body
Body...wanna touch my body?
Body...it's too much my body
Check it out my body, body.
Don't you doubt my body, body.
talkin' bout my body, body,
check it out my body

Every man wants to be a macho macho man
to have the kind of body, always in demand
Jogging in the mornings, go man go
works out in the health spa, muscles glow
You can best believe that, he's a macho man
ready to get down with, anyone he can

Hey! Hey! Hey, hey, hey!
Macho, macho man (macho man)
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man
I've got to be a macho! Ow....

Macho, macho man
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man (yeah, yeah)
I've got to be a macho!

Body, its so hot, my body,
Body, love to pop my body,
Body, love to please my body,
Body, don't you tease my body,
Body, you'll adore my body,
Body, come explore my body,
Body, made by God, my body,
Body, it's so good, my body

You can tell a macho, he has a funky walk
his western shirts and leather, always look so boss
Funky with his body, he's a king
call him Mister Eagle, dig his chains
You can best believe that, he's a macho man
likes to be the leader, he never dresses grand

Hey! Hey! Hey, hey, hey!
Macho, macho man
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man
I've got to be a macho! (all right)

Macho, macho man (yeah, yeah)
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man
I've got to be a macho! All Right!

Ugh! Macho..baby!
Body, body, body wanna feel my body,
Body, body, body gonna thrill my body,
Body, body, body don'tcha stop my body,
Body, body, body it's so hot my body,

Every man ought to be a macho macho man,
To live a life of freedom, machos make a stand,
Have their own life style and ideals,
Possess the strength and confidence, life's a steal,
You can best believe that he's a macho man
He's a special person in anybody's land.

Hey! Hey! Hey, hey, hey!
Macho, macho man (macho man)
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man
I've got to be a macho! (dig the hair on my chest)

Macho, macho man (see my big thick mustache)
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man
I've got to be a macho! (Dig broad shoulders)

Macho, macho man (dig my muscles!)
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man
I've got to be a macho!

Macho, macho man
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man
I've got to be a macho! HEY!


V's hymn ? :roll:


Nah... I never could get into disco, alas.
My point is, this guy is going on about being a brute for the sake of being a brute and whatnot, then I actually click on his pictire and nearly died laughing... especially since his brilliant jab and thrust of saying that I am a girl for leaning towards the cerebral.
Those guys (Village People) are hilarious, though.
V.


I bet you'd make a fine cowboy... or would you be the cop ? :wink:

anyway, you can't judge ppl by their picture... trust me, I don't look very dangerous but 10+ years kick boxing sure helped me being quite strong & powerful... maybe this guy has something up his sleep you wouldn't expect... :?

imo, your a big macho man but I've go problem with it if you respect the ladies (which I'm pretty sure you do)... so just go with it, be broud of your machism ! :D


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HellOnWheels wrote:
valefor wrote:
HellOnWheels wrote:
valefor wrote:
p.s. you do look quite the little pillow-biter, HAHAHA! sorry, but if you and I were ever to go toe-to-toe, you'd be a grease spot within a minute, you simply wouldn't have half a chance...
ta-ta!
V.


:lol:

Body...wanna feel my body?
Body...such a thrill my body
Body...wanna touch my body?
Body...it's too much my body
Check it out my body, body.
Don't you doubt my body, body.
talkin' bout my body, body,
check it out my body

Every man wants to be a macho macho man
to have the kind of body, always in demand
Jogging in the mornings, go man go
works out in the health spa, muscles glow
You can best believe that, he's a macho man
ready to get down with, anyone he can

Hey! Hey! Hey, hey, hey!
Macho, macho man (macho man)
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man
I've got to be a macho! Ow....

Macho, macho man
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man (yeah, yeah)
I've got to be a macho!

Body, its so hot, my body,
Body, love to pop my body,
Body, love to please my body,
Body, don't you tease my body,
Body, you'll adore my body,
Body, come explore my body,
Body, made by God, my body,
Body, it's so good, my body

You can tell a macho, he has a funky walk
his western shirts and leather, always look so boss
Funky with his body, he's a king
call him Mister Eagle, dig his chains
You can best believe that, he's a macho man
likes to be the leader, he never dresses grand

Hey! Hey! Hey, hey, hey!
Macho, macho man
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man
I've got to be a macho! (all right)

Macho, macho man (yeah, yeah)
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man
I've got to be a macho! All Right!

Ugh! Macho..baby!
Body, body, body wanna feel my body,
Body, body, body gonna thrill my body,
Body, body, body don'tcha stop my body,
Body, body, body it's so hot my body,

Every man ought to be a macho macho man,
To live a life of freedom, machos make a stand,
Have their own life style and ideals,
Possess the strength and confidence, life's a steal,
You can best believe that he's a macho man
He's a special person in anybody's land.

Hey! Hey! Hey, hey, hey!
Macho, macho man (macho man)
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man
I've got to be a macho! (dig the hair on my chest)

Macho, macho man (see my big thick mustache)
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man
I've got to be a macho! (Dig broad shoulders)

Macho, macho man (dig my muscles!)
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man
I've got to be a macho!

Macho, macho man
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man
I've got to be a macho! HEY!


V's hymn ? :roll:


Nah... I never could get into disco, alas.
My point is, this guy is going on about being a brute for the sake of being a brute and whatnot, then I actually click on his pictire and nearly died laughing... especially since his brilliant jab and thrust of saying that I am a girl for leaning towards the cerebral.
Those guys (Village People) are hilarious, though.
V.


I bet you'd make a fine cowboy... or would you be the cop ? :wink:

anyway, you can't judge ppl by their picture... trust me, I don't look very dangerous but 10+ years kick boxing sure helped me being quite strong & powerful... maybe this guy has something up his sleep you wouldn't expect... :?

imo, your a big macho man but I've go problem with it if you respect the ladies (which I'm pretty sure you do)... so just go with it, be broud of your machism ! :D


Err, thanks, I think. I.m not sure what to make of your post, but whatever... But you have it all wrong. My position is that physical violence should always be the last resort, I am not some Saturday night tough guy looking for a fight, but I am by no means a pacifist... 10 years of kickboxing, eh? Thats pretty good.
I know a little, took Taekwon do, got up to a green belt and decided that was enough for my purposes.
Again, I am merely illustrating a point, perhaps in an over-the-top manner, but... come on... brutes for the sake of being brutes, or whatever he said? give me a break....
Edit: Out of all that I said, you focused on the least relevant paragraph , I know to make light of the situation, but still, it detracts from the point I am striving to make.
My point is: whats your point?
V


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totally off topic, but i must say that MACHO MAN song rules. thank you for the laugh.

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My point is, this guy is going on about being a brute for the sake of being a brute and whatnot, then I actually click on his pictire and nearly died laughing...


Quote:
Again, I am merely illustrating a point, perhaps in an over-the-top manner, but... come on... brutes for the sake of being brutes, or whatever he said? give me a break....


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Also, brute strength (which I actually posses a bit of) and intellect (which is debatable, in my case, true) are not necessarily exclusive traits; I know thats too much for your puny wittle brain to digest, but trust me, it's true.


You don't seem to be grasping what I'm saying. In a natural context brute strength will always come before intelligence, intelligence is always a reaction to brute strength, to a situation where one cannot assert himself in a simple, animalistic manner. You seem to think that i'm claiming myself to be the lord of muscle, I'm nothing of the kind I assure you, but I have a respect for fisticuffs, for violence. Why? Because I would be denying my own humanity if I claimed otherwise. The average man of any racial denomination, civilization or generation is in essence a belligerant, cruel cunt. Egyptian pride kept an entire race lashed in leather pushing stone, Spartan haughtiness ensnared a population of slaves ten times greater than the population of Spartans, Roman bloodlust inspired expansionism and the spectacle; these were (I use the term loosely) civilizations that expressed their natural urges for domination, their inborn lust for power. In our advanced age, what do we have? We have the experience of vicarious self aggrandizement, channeling the most depraved forms of lust and murder into ourselves through the apparatus of television, we have the refinened warfare of morality, and the ivory tower of intelligence from which to loose our bows. We teeter upon the brink of a purely carnal bloom, the last two thousand years have been a descent from airy castles down to the fray of the temporal circus. The concept of 'society' has always been surreal, a cushion of a spell cast to keep us in a reverie, a lullaby to place our thumbs in our mouths. There has never been any fucking order to the world, 'society' is an assumption that lets people sleep easier at night.

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but if you and I were ever to go toe-to-toe, you'd be a grease spot within a minute, you simply wouldn't have half a chance...


What kind of a rational statement to the contrary can I offer in response to this? None save that such a claim can only be proven through deeds: if you live in Australia, specifically Victoria, I'd be glad to go 'toe-to-toe' with you.

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making poo-poo (your words, not mine; refer to your initial post)


You misinterpreted my use of the word, I meant poo poo as in "he poo poo'd my work", I meant it as a generic show of disapproval, rather than as excrement.


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My point is, this guy is going on about being a brute for the sake of being a brute and whatnot, then I actually click on his pictire and nearly died laughing...


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Again, I am merely illustrating a point, perhaps in an over-the-top manner, but... come on... brutes for the sake of being brutes, or whatever he said? give me a break....


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Also, brute strength (which I actually posses a bit of) and intellect (which is debatable, in my case, true) are not necessarily exclusive traits; I know thats too much for your puny wittle brain to digest, but trust me, it's true.


You don't seem to be grasping what I'm saying. In a natural context brute strength will always come before intelligence, intelligence is always a reaction to brute strength, to a situation where one cannot assert himself in a simple, animalistic manner. You seem to think that i'm claiming myself to be the lord of muscle, I'm nothing of the kind I assure you, but I have a respect for fisticuffs, for violence. Why? Because I would be denying my own humanity if I claimed otherwise. The average man of any racial denomination, civilization or generation is in essence a belligerant, cruel cunt. Egyptian pride kept an entire race lashed in leather pushing stone, Spartan haughtiness ensnared a population of slaves ten times greater than the population of Spartans, Roman bloodlust inspired expansionism and the spectacle; these were (I use the term loosely) civilizations that expressed their natural urges for domination, their inborn lust for power. In our advanced age, what do we have? We have the experience of vicarious self aggrandizement, channeling the most depraved forms of lust and murder into ourselves through the apparatus of television, we have the refinened warfare of morality, and the ivory tower of intelligence from which to loose our bows. We teeter upon the brink of a purely carnal bloom, the last two thousand years have been a descent from airy castles down to the fray of the temporal circus. The concept of 'society' has always been surreal, a cushion of a spell cast to keep us in a reverie, a lullaby to place our thumbs in our mouths. There has never been any fucking order to the world, 'society' is an assumption that lets people sleep easier at night.

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but if you and I were ever to go toe-to-toe, you'd be a grease spot within a minute, you simply wouldn't have half a chance...


What kind of a rational statement to the contrary can I offer in response to this? None save that such a claim can only be proven through deeds: if you live in Australia, specifically Victoria, I'd be glad to go 'toe-to-toe' with you.

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making poo-poo (your words, not mine; refer to your initial post)


You misinterpreted my use of the word, I meant poo poo as in "he poo poo'd my work", I meant it as a generic show of disapproval, rather than as excrement.


Thats all fair enough... I'll tell you what. Lets both cut the bullshit and throw around some ideas. Throwing around insults benefits nobody.
You seemed to take my off-the-cuff remark "that its been done, etc." as a personal attack on you; it wasn't. Then you went and attacked me back, and it devolved from their.
I can be a fucking asshole when put against the wall, but I think you would agree that it was not entirely without provocation. But,
enough of that, the past is the past. Lets talk philosophy, as intelligent creatures, as after all is said and done you seem ro be.
A question: what did you hope to acheive by torching a church?
My stance is that you can accomplish more with propaganda and media and art than by acts of vandalism; lets face it, they will only put you in jail, and build a bigger church over the ashes of the dead one, while furthering their cause. I will admit that it is a strong message, but it seems to me that it is a futile act.
I gave you a little bit of my ideas in the last post, but I am actually more interested in what you are listening to and reading these days.
After all our views are probably not so different, though it seems that we have a disagreement on the means to the end.
I await your response, hoping that we will perhaps better understand each others philosophy and maybe even learn something new.
V.


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I agree with Desolitary insofar as to say that Man has evolved in the wrong direction, but as a whole we've become complacent, not intelligent.. intellectualism is still quite rare and something to be treasured.

Burning down a church is a good way to show that there's anger out there, and the means to capture that anger and use it towards an end, but this is exactly the sort of thing that the fundamental christians capitalize upon; they're already all bitter martyrs anyway, which is a fine lie as they seem to all but control the most powerful nation in the world. A better way of humbling these people would be to demonstrate exactly how far from Christ they've become, but it seems too late for that, too; expressing that sort of opinion results in being labelled paranoid, or worse.

Just my humble opinion..


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