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 Post subject: Mudvayne
PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 5:35 am 
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Anyone actually like this band? I borrowed a cd off a friend and listened to it and Im actually likeing it. In my opinion their not nu metal at all, their pretty talented guys.


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They are Nu-Metal and they suck at it.


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Should have seen that coming.


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They are Nu-Metal and they suck at it.


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There were a few songs on LD 50 that sounded a lot like Tool, which was interesting, but er since then they've released nothing that wasn't terrible, so..

They are Nu-Metal and they suck at it.


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The_Voice wrote:
They are Nu-Metal and they suck at it.



Nothing more to say except ditto


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Earlier stuff is nu-metally, but very inventive and original with it. Their more recent stuff appears to have become more conventional supposedly, so I can't be arsed with it.


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Well I guess that answers my question haha.


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rio wrote:
Earlier stuff is nu-metally, but very inventive and original with it.


Bah. They lifted all that time signature trickery and dissonant riffing directly from Tool.


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I dunno... I think they did it in a different way.


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I think L.D. 50 is quite an original album. If you can see through the gimmicky paint they used at the moment to jump into the Slipknot bandwagon, you'll find a very good album. And yes, I agree it had many elements used by Tool, but I think they were used in a different way.


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Eh, I don't really like them.


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they have good songs, personaly, my favorite band from the mainstream "metal" scene.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:42 am 
Never did seriously listen to them. From what I heard, they're like the "dream theater of nu-metal."


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Never did seriously listen to them. From what I heard, they're like the "dream theater of nu-metal."



Ya except not.


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The comparision to dream theater is only valid with extreme stress on the Nu metal.


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At the beginning yeah, they were alright. For being what they were, they certainly were easier on the ears than most.

As for the ripping off Tool thing, I don't see how you can possibly justify giving them shit for taking two things from a band who simply took them from OTHER BANDS. You think Tool fucking invented dissonance and were the first to play with different time signatures? Someone told me that about Slayer once, too(dissonance)...I'm seeing a pattern here with fans of lame overrated bands...hmm...


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You think Tool fucking invented dissonance and were the first to play with different time signatures?


No. But they integrated these elements into their music in an original way. They inluenced a ton of (mostly bad) modern metal bands.
I didn't say that Tool are the most original band on the face of the earth, i just said that Mudvayne have a very strong Tool influence.

But when it comes down to it, it's more important to write good music than it is to write original music.


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tool the most orignal band on earth, ok :roll:


progressive yes.

good yes.


most orignal, no

they elements they mixed together had been dabbled in by other people. There sound is pretty unique but far from the most orignal


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unknownkadath666 wrote:
tool the most orignal band on earth, ok :roll:

progressive yes.
good yes.
most orignal, no

they elements they mixed together had been dabbled in by other people. There sound is pretty unique but far from the most orignal


Did you misread my post?
I said: "I didn't say that Tool are the most original band on the face of the earth."


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