Metal Reviews

[quote="pingusthegreat"][quote="Eyesore"][quote="derncare"]Hopefully everything comes out on time and not as late as the Gettysburg DVD [/quote]
Late?? You meant "lame," right??[/quote]

Yeah i too didn't like the Guettysburg DVD, i think John just want it to get out of the way just because of a commitment made to the label. Im sure he's gonna put all his efforts into the STWC pt II, the pressure is certaintly going to be high, but they can deliver, no doubt :twisted:[/quote]

Jon is an official Civil War reenactor and is obsessed with Civial War history. The DVD is exactly what he intended. It's meant to be a history lesson without the flash of standard videos. Plus, he wasn't working with the biggest budget. He loves his Something Wicked story, but it will never be more important to him than history.

Hey, I'm not a history buff, but I do find it very interesting and I love The Glorious Burden and all that, but to call this an Iced Earth DVD is a bit of a stretch. I mean, more videos, live material, anything that had to do with the band would have made the DVD a lot better. To me, it doesn't seem like an Iced Earth DVD, it seems a bit self-indulgent to me.

Jon made no claims that anything like that would be on the DVD. This DVD was specifically intented as a history lesson. That's what he said it would be from the beginning, and that's what we got. There were only two videos filmed for the Glorious Burden, and both were included in the bonus material. The tour was often a mess with Jon's back problems, and Jon admitted that the live performances were not usually up to par. So why would he have any of them recorded, let alone put them on a DVD? All of what you mentioned costs money, and Jon basically had to fund this venture himself. He's not on the wealthiest of labels. Jon is Iced Earth, and if this DVD is what he wanted, then it's not a stretch to call it an Iced Earth DVD. Call it self-indulgent, but that's how IE has always been.

Liking the DVD is a matter of personal opinion, but I just don't understand why anyone would have had expectations beyond what is there. He was pretty open about what the DVD was for. In fact, it's sold really well for a music DVD because a number of high schools have purchased copies for their curriculum.

I didn't have any expectations for the DVD package, i knew what was on it before hand, im just not a history buff like he is, i knew that already going in. I dont know about history being more important to him then the actual band, i mean come on. I respect his appreciation for history but i dont think it should be ahead of the band. Anyways i liked The Glorious Burden too and that was history based, the DVD however just wasnt my thing, i can understand if the budget was low, it is what is is. I hope they make a real DVD when they tour for the SWTC pt II comes out. that should be killer. :twisted:

I don't think he put it ahead of the band. It is part of the band. The band released an entire album about history with the intention of teaching something. The DVD follows what the CD represented. If that's not to someone's taste, that's understandable, but I challenge people to think about how IE refused to succumb to the pressure of putting out a standard metal DVD and released exactly what they wanted to with no regrets. That's not putting anything ahead of the band. That's living up to the ideals everyone says they want from metal bands. Hell, most underground metal bands don't even get to put out any DVDs.

I understand that, but regardless of what Jon said, the name ICED EARTH is slapped right on there! That's a bit misleading, do you think?

Well, Gettysburg was recorded by Iced Earth, so were the other two songs. How is that misleading? Because it didn't happen to contain the material you would have preferred?

Come on, Iced Earth are a metal band and there was hardly any Iced Earth on the DVD. I'm not really complaining here, I just think calling it an Iced Earth DVD and having very little Iced Earth material on it is misleading, especially to fans who haven't got access to the net and whatnot and had no idea what they were getting, expecting an Iced Earth DVD and getting an historical documentary with three Iced Earth songs playing in the background and two videos.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this topic

I do agree though that I think some special DVD will be instore to complement the new albums' story.

A DVD focused strictly on Iced Earth videos and live footage would be excellent. Get some footage of those early, unreleased Purgatory tracks! I know there's footage out there!

I doubt stuff that's too old would get on there. I mean, Jon had Matt re-record the vocals on his favorite old IE songs for a reason. It would definitely be nice to have some extra features on the next DVD such as the Melancholy video.

Oh, and has anyone seen that one old video floating around with IE playing "Colors" live in a storage unit?

hehe intersting. You know what would be awesome, if somebody had a copy of the live footage from the Alive in Athens concert, man i kill to get my hands on it, cause those 2 days they did in Athens freaking owned :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Oh, I know, that's all wishful thinking! Hehehe. The singer on Iced Earth was terrible, the singer on Stormrider was better, but when Barlow stepped to to the mic is when Iced Earth became an awesome band! I'm always wondering why they re-recorded almost every song with Barlow but "Curse The Sky," "Written On The Walls," "The Path I Choose" and "Mystical End." It seems odd. Those are good tunes.

Anyway, check this site out and tell me some footage of these early songs—regardless of how shitty they may sound—would not kick ass!!

http://www.iced-realm.de

This is a killer site!

I think the live Path That I Choose rules, so that one never bothered me. Written on the Walls was changed so Barlow could contribute some lyrics (for all those who think Jon is a total dictator, notice how he tries to get his singers involved in lyrics - just like Tim on Red Baron/Blue Max). Don't know about the other two. They probably figured they had enough songs for one release :?

The Path I Choose was done with Barlow on Alive in Athens. Greely (singer on Night of the Stormrider) was an awesome vocalist, but I agree that Barlow does beat him, except for those times when he gets way too emotional for his own damn good.

There's a Barlow version of "Written On The Walls?" On what? My point was that they re-did every song from the first two albums and the EP with Barlow on vocals except those four. It seems odd that they just wouldn't redo all of them.

I believe that the Barlow version of Written On The Walls is Cast in Stone, he just redo the lyrics,you can find it on Alive in Athens and on Days Of Purgatory.

i does seem odd. Maybe he didn't want to look like a total jerk by completely eliminating the previous vocalists LOL

No,you see i think jon really liked written on the walls but the lyrics were property of the previous vocalist,so to avoid any copyright problems he asked barlow to rewrite the lyrics so they could play it live,and to be able to put it in days of purgatory.

:shock: WTF? It's quite possible, I'll have to double check now.

Have any of you ever heard any Purgatory songs??