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Who the fuck wants to be a "real man" anyway? If it means being like DevotedWalnut, then fuck that shit. I would rather do my fucking knitting like a boss than worrying about what girls or "real men" have to say about it. Times are changing, you don't have to be a caveman any longer, just the same as women are not required to stick to any sort of roles. Sadly, some people (like DevotedWalnut) get unreasonably threatened by amazing people like Noodles. Really sad the way grown "men" try to belittle people on the internet to feel tough.


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Yes I'm such a caveman. I never once claimed to be a real man, but I certainly don't knit. Think of me what you will, but I call it like I see it.


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Yeah well, everyone is attracted to confidence. That is not something that is exclusive to either men or women and it doesn't require you to be a "real man" or give up knitting. What DevWal is implying is the tired old shit that Noodles is gay (or less of a man) because he does things that are considered, or where considered typically girly. I usually don't respond to this kind of bullshit, but this time I feel like I have to say something just to show that there are people here who feel otherwise.


At the end of the day I don't give a shit what you, noodles, or anybody here does in real life. I'm just busting his, and everybody else's balls. You obviously can't see that and turn to calling me a caveman. Grow some thicker skin. I'm sure Jeff knew I was just being an asshole and not meaning it.


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I feel really dumb at this point. I thought she deserved my trust and respect and gave her too many chances and discovered she didn't trust, respect, or appreciate me.


To elaborate, I don't really regret anything I did, I'm mostly disappointed that she fell so far below my expectations, and that for a while she had me feeling partly responsible.

As for the knitting/manliness/etc thing I kind of gave up on that a while ago. I follow my interests and I end up wherever they lead me. I'm a pretty confident person most days but when it comes to jealousy and the sexual/affectionate side of a relationship, I've always been bad at drawing and enforcing boundaries because I find them slightly hard to justify and I'm a forgiving person.


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Here's my (female) perspective:

It doesn't matter what you do with your time. Knitting? Bring it on. Gender roles are ridiculous anyway. As long as you're confident. Attitude is the deal breaker.

Also, if a girl kisses someone else... I don't think she should get any additional chances. Unless circumstances were incredibly aberrant, chances are that if she's done it once she'll do it again.


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Its not so much the knitting, it's the letting yourself be taken for a chump part. Noodles, you should have packed her in the last time, hell even the first time. And let's be honest; knitting is fine and all, but only if you exhibit some masculine traits as well. Otherwise it just comes across as fem.
I'm not saying be a prognathous jawed knuckledragging prick, but you missed an oppurtunity to take charge of the situation by letting her get the drop on you. You should have packed her in, man.


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RecklessNightmare wrote:
Here's my (female) perspective:

It doesn't matter what you do with your time. Knitting? Bring it on. Gender roles are ridiculous anyway. As long as you're confident. Attitude is the deal breaker.

Also, if a girl kisses someone else... I don't think she should get any additional chances. Unless circumstances were incredibly aberrant, chances are that if she's done it once she'll do it again.


Being constrained by whatever gender roles society dictates may or may not be ridiculous, but correct me if I'm wrong: females generally seek out the alphas in the group, no? Mating in many ways is a competition for resources, for want of a better metaphor,
the historical/anthropological reasons being fairly well known and established.
Even highly successful women rarely mate with males that are lower down on the pecking order than they are.


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I feel really dumb at this point. I thought she deserved my trust and respect and gave her too many chances and discovered she didn't trust, respect, or appreciate me.


To elaborate, I don't really regret anything I did, I'm mostly disappointed that she fell so far below my expectations, and that for a while she had me feeling partly responsible.
:( buddy, you liked a girl and thought that it was reciprocated. It doesn't reflect on you in any way that you were mistake. The fact that you thought she was worth your time was predicated on the thought that she would be forthcoming and treat you properly. That she played you has nothing to do with you; you were simply being trusting to someone that you care about.

What V is missing is that yeah sure he could have dumped her right from the beginning, but the fact that he still cared about her meant that he didn't want to simply do that. It's easy from the outside to say what somebody should have done, but when you trust someone you expect more from them and sometimes people disappoint in an unexpected way.

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I feel really dumb at this point. I thought she deserved my trust and respect and gave her too many chances and discovered she didn't trust, respect, or appreciate me.


To elaborate, I don't really regret anything I did, I'm mostly disappointed that she fell so far below my expectations, and that for a while she had me feeling partly responsible.
:( buddy, you liked a girl and thought that it was reciprocated. It doesn't reflect on you in any way that you were mistake. The fact that you thought she was worth your time was predicated on the thought that she would be forthcoming and treat you properly. That she played you has nothing to do with you; you were simply being trusting to someone that you care about.

What V is missing is that yeah sure he could have dumped her right from the beginning, but the fact that he still cared about her meant that he didn't want to simply do that. It's easy from the outside to say what somebody should have done, but when you trust someone you expect more from them and sometimes people disappoint in an unexpected way.

Maybe the first time would have been a bit hasty, but it happened a second time. And as you may recall there were a few of us here that suggested he feed the dude some knuckles, throw her and her stuff to the curb and change the locks.

And that's just it though, isn't it? His trust should have been tenous at best after the first "indiscretion"; that is a huge fucking red flag.

Anyway, I've broken way too many self-imposed rules already in even getting this involved in the dejected intrigues of this section of the forum, so I'm out.


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Anyway, I've broken way too many self-imposed rules already in even getting this involved in the dejected intrigues of this section of the forum, so I'm out.


You know you miss it really, V. :wink:


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what trapt said


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If you rub two sticks together long enough and fast enough it creates this hot light that really hurts to touch.

What could this new discovery be?


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Whenever I need a new mate I just go to the next village and bash her skull in and drag her back to my camp.


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I was a little too forgiving and quick to trust her because I wanted the relationship to keep going. Talked to her last night and it was good. I thought we were good at talking but both of us had a lot of stuff we'd never brought up. Then when we stopped talking about the relationship we had a couple flirty moments that were weird because they were fun but neither of us wanted them to be happening.


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At the risk of being insulted by members much smarter than myself, she sounds like a whore. Kisses other guys? Leaves you for somebody else then starts flirting with you?

Get your club out and go bashing.


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At the risk of being insulted by members much smarter than myself, she sounds like a whore. Kisses other guys? Leaves you for somebody else then starts flirting with you?

Get your club out and go bashing.
Whore's not the right word. But she's not a good thing.

This slightly sorta echoes the situation that I just removed myself from. Drunk me explaining to someone that I never ever want to talk them again without trying to be dramatic was kinda fun looking back on it.

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There's two people she likes a lot which is normal but also isn't fun.

I think we'll be better as friends anyways, e.g. from September (I miss Bruce and Define_Infinity):

noodles wrote:
So far a major result of not living with my girlfriend any more has been less sex.

By less I mean no.

No sex :-(


She wasn't attracted enough to me, and I didn't like supporting her emotionally in a "boyfriend" way.


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Whore may be a strong word, but the more info that's out there, the more it seems the case.


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I didn't like supporting her emotionally in a "boyfriend" way.
I feel like my problem is that all too often I get swept up into playing that role for people I'm not having sex with. I'm not playing the "friend zone" bullshit, because I'm not a douche. I'm just saying it takes a lot for me to call people out on their dependence on me long after a particular time has passed. The problem isn't that I'm mad because girls won't sleep with me, but that after the time has passed in which these particular ladies and I could have been something, I'm still playing a role for them that essentially leaves me being dragged around in the muck. I get some comfort out of it, but ultimately I position myself in daily roles of having my heart ripped out and stomped on.

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Yeah, go get your fedora dry-cleaned, nice guy.

Had a good day at work, and helped push a lady's car up a hill afterwards. Halo, right here.


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Yeah, go get your fedora dry-cleaned, nice guy.
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helped push a lady's car up a hill afterwards. Halo, right here.
Sounds like a solid work out.

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