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 Post subject: 'Wintersun - Time I (#7916)'
PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:54 pm 
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Wintersun - Time I
Jari's Symphonic (Melodic Death) Metal
Quoted: 97 / 100


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:57 pm 
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Funny how you let the most biased reviewer among you do this one.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:08 pm 
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Karmakosmonaut wrote:
Funny how you let the most biased reviewer among you do this one.


Nobody let's anyone do anything, this site belongs to me dude, I've created it 12 years ago with my brother (Danny) and to this day I still pay for it to exist, as such I review whatever I want (not to mention I have this claimed for 4 years already, I missed on the first album review and would not let this one, or any future Wintersun album escape me). So if you don't like my reviews, tough luck I guess :)

And I would say saying I'm biased on this one is unjustified, as I have repeatedly commented and expressed my annoyance towards the many delays (in other melodeath review) of this album. If it had been crap, it would have been judged accordingly.

I'm sorry if I'm sounding aggressive, I've just spent 2+ hours writing this while I have fever and flu, so I guess I'm a little oversensitive (I'm always grumpier when I'm sick), but this was a cheap shot.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:19 pm 
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I mean no disrespect, but that second paragraph is just a massive wall of text :blink:

As for Wintersun, I've hardly bothered to listen to them. I guess I should give them a decent shot since they seem to be the most hyped metal band in the world in certain circles. I'm just not too fond of melodeath so haven't bothered except for a few snippets on youtube..


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:29 pm 
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I wouldnt know what to score this album......it sounds incomplete....almost like an EP....with only 3 actual songs. I wish part 1 and 2 could have been released at the same time. Oh well, I'll take what we can get!


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:32 pm 
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Good album, only heard it once, but good. Overhyped though.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:48 pm 
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Malfeitor wrote:
I mean no disrespect, but that second paragraph is just a massive wall of text :blink:

As for Wintersun, I've hardly bothered to listen to them. I guess I should give them a decent shot since they seem to be the most hyped metal band in the world in certain circles. I'm just not too fond of melodeath so haven't bothered except for a few snippets on youtube..


You're right. I guess i haven't anticipated it would be sooooo long. I've been trying to shorten my reviews, and for the most part I did. This is an unfortunate exception :)

This is no melodeath, so give it a try !


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Steadfast wrote:
I wouldnt know what to score this album......it sounds incomplete....almost like an EP....with only 3 actual songs. I wish part 1 and 2 could have been released at the same time. Oh well, I'll take what we can get!


That's how i feel to but its long enough to be considered an album though interestingly enough iTunes had this classed as EP in september when i looked at the release date :)


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:53 pm 
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Good album, only heard it once, but good. Overhyped though.


Not if one considers the staggering amount of work behind it.
Watching Jari show you his project files and seeing the number of tracks, orchestrations and such, can only have respect for the amount of work, the numbers of sounds, tracks and plugins that went into making such a featured sound...

This album has many layers, but is it still melodeath ? I'm not sure (hence my style choice)


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 Post subject: My longest review ?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:59 pm 
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Seeing how much i must scroll to see it all on my ipad is scaring me.... I think this might be my longest review ever. Indeed a wall lf text :(

Next one (spoiler : Eclipse Bleed & Scream) will be shorter, MUCH shorter :).


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Hmmmm I've been getting mixed vibes from others that said it's good not great or not worth the hype surrounding the massive amounts of delays this album occurred.

But I'm still going to get this and see how it is.


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From the 3 songs I heard it sounds like a good album and i'd scrore this somewhere in the low 80's. I think Chris overscored this but thats just my opinion. I do like his review though.

In terms of genre Wintersun is more Symphonic/Power Metal with some more extreme elements mixed in like melodeath like vocals.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:21 pm 
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I already wrote what i think about the album in another section of the forums so im not going to repeat myself.

I'll just say that i disagree with the score. Still a good album but nothing worth a quote of over 90 imho. 80-85 is more like it as far as im concerned and im hoping Time II will be more in the mold of the S/T (less orchestrations and annoying oriental like keybords , more guitar and melodic death driven ect).


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:36 pm 
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whats with the 1000 word review???/ I read about these guys @ getmetal,had a listen and like some said...In terms of genre Wintersun is more Symphonic/Power Metal with some more extreme elements mixed in like melodeath like vocals...nothing new here..around 85 for me.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:57 pm 
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Very very good album. Unfortunately not groundbreaking and fantastic or masterpiece of melodic/symphonic/epic metal.
Where are the solos, why is the guitar in the background so much, why does it remind me of Rhapsody now and then ( not happy with that ).
I might change my mind and I don't want to sound too harsh, but after 7-8 spins, this definitely isn't as good as the debut. Every song on the s/t is stronger than anything here in my opinion. Time has nothing ferocious like Beyond The Dark Sun or Winter Madness and nothing beautiful like Death And The Healing or Starchild.
And the whole thing slightly stinks of money grabbing, couldn't they release it as a double album, and it would be very funny if the combined length of two Time albums doesn't exceed 80 minutes.
But highly enjoyable 40 minutes of music, miles ahead of majority of similar style albums that had been put out these last 3 or 4 years ( and I'm counting Nightwish and Rhapsody here too ).
I don' want to rate it without hearing the second one ( hopefully it will be a killer combo ), but if I must it would be 85-ish or so.
Just my opinion, I like Jari, he's cool and/but I'm pretty sure he can do better than this.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:00 am 
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And the artwork :blink: :mellow: :blink: :mellow:


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Yeah I saw 97 and said yep people are going to give Chris shit on this one.


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That's okay, it's been a while since we've had a controversial review no? :P


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:34 am 
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Yeah it's a little bit different than the self-titled. I definitely wouldn't call it a melodeath album either.

The self titled is better as it's more agressive, imo. But this one did have a pretty epic sound.

It'll be interesting to see what part two sounds like.


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A great and thoughtful review (in spite of the "wall of text"). You had the reaction I wanted to have. The debut is one of my favorite albums of all time, eternally. I share the disappointment in Time I's length. With 6 minutes of non-metal, this is an *EP*, not a full length. Those "filler" tracks would be welcome on a 60min proper album, but not here.

But unlike you, I wasn't won over enough by the three real songs. I am certain they will grow on me, as the debut took a short while to do before the revelation came that it was a masterpiece. Hopefully, the epiphany will come with "Time" (pun intended). However, I suspect what I will end up doing next year is fusing the two EPs (Call them that!) together, sans instrumental filler, to create a 95/100 proper 70min album. Until then, what we have is a slightly unsatisfying appetizer.

I'd like to add that I think the long delay was a bunch of needless bs. I guarantee 95% of listeners, including his biggest fans, would not have been able to discern the difference had Jari just made the album with standard methods. To quote Seinfeld, he is apparently just one of those "delicate geniuses."


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