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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:43 am 
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As we all know, Metal has been labeled many times as the devil's music, music for angry people, mindless music. But our very little community must have commonalities in why we love METAL so much and are in love with it? For me, it's the primitivism, energy, structure, complexity/simplicity, diversity, passion, density, atmosphere, power, liberation, chaos and the dark aspects of it that makes it superior to all other music--disregarding the main roots of Metal of course which can never be forgotten and ignored--why METAL?


P.S. I have a vague recollection that something like this thread was created a while back, but whatever.

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well, my first album was aqua and i remember i used to like the backstreet boys and whatever as a kid (i'm beng 100% serious here). BUT even then i never cared for ballads and shit.

i always liked my music to be fast and flowing, and then i added heavy to that once i heard it, so, you know, metal.

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I was young, my dad listened to Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Rainbow, Judas Priest, etc.. It stuck.


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Whatever the reason is, this song does it in a big way

Cloudkicker - Push it Way Up

Actual: I like dramatic, loud, big music and metal tends to be dramatic, loud and big. Metal's also very rhythmically focused and that's a biggy for me too. Also awesome riffs + sexy distorted guitar tone + intense, groovey drumming does it for me in a big way.


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My entertainment is like the opposite of my personality. I'm generally an introverted guy but I love heavy music, violent video games, and epic movies.


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It's the only music genre that makes me feel alive and indestructible. It's actually the only thing that makes me feel that way. That's a bit sad.


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Everything everyone's said, and more. I discovered metal through Evanesence, and fell in love with The Riff, soon finding Maiden, Darkthrone, etc... At first I wanted heaviness and extremity, now I want great songwriting and earpleasuring, a la what Noodles and Bruce said.


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Saw Slayer on TV with a song from God Hates Us All, and got further into the genre with bands like Vader, Emperor, Ancient, etc.


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energetic yet much of the bands I'm into still has this melancholic feel to it that American Pop/Hip Hop certainly doesn't have.


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Who moved this thread? :huh:

Read a great interview on Invisible Oranges about this very topic.

http://www.invisibleoranges.com/2011/11 ... kim-kelly/

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When I was first really getting into more extreme metal, all I can remember is the excitement of it all, and how it all seemed to make so much sense. Here was this music–this loud, abrasive, alien sound, with all its different nuances and subgenres–that sang of rage, of alienation, of war and warrior, of sickness and despair, of triumph, of hatred, of philosophy, of lust and sometimes even love. The bone-rattling brutality of death metal, the cold hatred of black metal, the manic intensity of thrash, the despondent heaviness of doom, the no-holds-barred insanity of grindcore–it just spoke to me and still does. The fact that hardly anyone else cared about it made it even more special. It was a refuge, a secret club, whose membership was to be earned and protected.

(...)

It’s a tribal identity, an inspiration, and a refuge. Metal is global. We are everywhere. I remember sitting in my car one night, on break from one of my shitty high school jobs, and listening to Dissection’s The Somberlain with the windows down, with cold air drifting in. It struck me–”Somewhere out there, someone is listening to this same album, and loves it just as much as I do”. That realization meant a lot to me then, and the memory has stayed with me throughout all of my travels and experiences. The sense of community, of (for fear of sounding Manowar-ian) brotherhood/sisterhood that heavy metal provides and encourages is unparalleled and that feeling of belonging is something that metalheads will fight for.

The music itself means everything, and the opportunity to share your love of this much-maligned, socially-unacceptable, difficult music with someone that GETS IT is priceless. It’s outsider art for an outsider culture; not many of us were the homecoming queen or the star quarterback, but within these walls of noise we’ve thrown up and rallied behind, none of that matters. All that matters is the riffs. There is room here for those who desire that sense of community, but also ample room for the lone wolves, the misanthropes, those that desire no connection but appreciate and worship the music on its own.

Metal is love. Metal is war. Metal is what you need it to be. Yes, there are some glaring flaws and issues within the metal community, and the times keep changing faster than some of us can bear to see, but the bigger picture is what matters. Seeing the sheer passion and devotion of metal fans in hardscrabble Russia, in sunny Portugal, in outlaw bars in Texas, in isolated South Dakota, in Philly basements and Berlin squats, London pubs and Helsinki nightclubs, is so inspiring and so empowering. Ultimately, it all comes down to the music–this at times deeply emotional, highly intellectual and complex noise, this brainless gory fun, this nihilistic evil, this fuzzed-out amplifier worship, this vicious brutality, this delicate beauty, this wacked-out experimentation, this heavy FUCKING metal.

It is not a perfect world, but it’s mine. It’s ours.


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Goat wrote:
Who moved this thread? :huh:

Read a great interview on Invisible Oranges about this very topic.

http://www.invisibleoranges.com/2011/11 ... kim-kelly/

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When I was first really getting into more extreme metal, all I can remember is the excitement of it all, and how it all seemed to make so much sense. Here was this music–this loud, abrasive, alien sound, with all its different nuances and subgenres–that sang of rage, of alienation, of war and warrior, of sickness and despair, of triumph, of hatred, of philosophy, of lust and sometimes even love. The bone-rattling brutality of death metal, the cold hatred of black metal, the manic intensity of thrash, the despondent heaviness of doom, the no-holds-barred insanity of grindcore–it just spoke to me and still does. The fact that hardly anyone else cared about it made it even more special. It was a refuge, a secret club, whose membership was to be earned and protected.

(...)

It’s a tribal identity, an inspiration, and a refuge. Metal is global. We are everywhere. I remember sitting in my car one night, on break from one of my shitty high school jobs, and listening to Dissection’s The Somberlain with the windows down, with cold air drifting in. It struck me–”Somewhere out there, someone is listening to this same album, and loves it just as much as I do”. That realization meant a lot to me then, and the memory has stayed with me throughout all of my travels and experiences. The sense of community, of (for fear of sounding Manowar-ian) brotherhood/sisterhood that heavy metal provides and encourages is unparalleled and that feeling of belonging is something that metalheads will fight for.

The music itself means everything, and the opportunity to share your love of this much-maligned, socially-unacceptable, difficult music with someone that GETS IT is priceless. It’s outsider art for an outsider culture; not many of us were the homecoming queen or the star quarterback, but within these walls of noise we’ve thrown up and rallied behind, none of that matters. All that matters is the riffs. There is room here for those who desire that sense of community, but also ample room for the lone wolves, the misanthropes, those that desire no connection but appreciate and worship the music on its own.

Metal is love. Metal is war. Metal is what you need it to be. Yes, there are some glaring flaws and issues within the metal community, and the times keep changing faster than some of us can bear to see, but the bigger picture is what matters. Seeing the sheer passion and devotion of metal fans in hardscrabble Russia, in sunny Portugal, in outlaw bars in Texas, in isolated South Dakota, in Philly basements and Berlin squats, London pubs and Helsinki nightclubs, is so inspiring and so empowering. Ultimately, it all comes down to the music–this at times deeply emotional, highly intellectual and complex noise, this brainless gory fun, this nihilistic evil, this fuzzed-out amplifier worship, this vicious brutality, this delicate beauty, this wacked-out experimentation, this heavy FUCKING metal.

It is not a perfect world, but it’s mine. It’s ours.


/thread. :)


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Define Infinity wrote:
Goat wrote:
Who moved this thread? :huh:

Read a great interview on Invisible Oranges about this very topic.

http://www.invisibleoranges.com/2011/11 ... kim-kelly/

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When I was first really getting into more extreme metal, all I can remember is the excitement of it all, and how it all seemed to make so much sense. Here was this music–this loud, abrasive, alien sound, with all its different nuances and subgenres–that sang of rage, of alienation, of war and warrior, of sickness and despair, of triumph, of hatred, of philosophy, of lust and sometimes even love. The bone-rattling brutality of death metal, the cold hatred of black metal, the manic intensity of thrash, the despondent heaviness of doom, the no-holds-barred insanity of grindcore–it just spoke to me and still does. The fact that hardly anyone else cared about it made it even more special. It was a refuge, a secret club, whose membership was to be earned and protected.

(...)

It’s a tribal identity, an inspiration, and a refuge. Metal is global. We are everywhere. I remember sitting in my car one night, on break from one of my shitty high school jobs, and listening to Dissection’s The Somberlain with the windows down, with cold air drifting in. It struck me–”Somewhere out there, someone is listening to this same album, and loves it just as much as I do”. That realization meant a lot to me then, and the memory has stayed with me throughout all of my travels and experiences. The sense of community, of (for fear of sounding Manowar-ian) brotherhood/sisterhood that heavy metal provides and encourages is unparalleled and that feeling of belonging is something that metalheads will fight for.

The music itself means everything, and the opportunity to share your love of this much-maligned, socially-unacceptable, difficult music with someone that GETS IT is priceless. It’s outsider art for an outsider culture; not many of us were the homecoming queen or the star quarterback, but within these walls of noise we’ve thrown up and rallied behind, none of that matters. All that matters is the riffs. There is room here for those who desire that sense of community, but also ample room for the lone wolves, the misanthropes, those that desire no connection but appreciate and worship the music on its own.

Metal is love. Metal is war. Metal is what you need it to be. Yes, there are some glaring flaws and issues within the metal community, and the times keep changing faster than some of us can bear to see, but the bigger picture is what matters. Seeing the sheer passion and devotion of metal fans in hardscrabble Russia, in sunny Portugal, in outlaw bars in Texas, in isolated South Dakota, in Philly basements and Berlin squats, London pubs and Helsinki nightclubs, is so inspiring and so empowering. Ultimately, it all comes down to the music–this at times deeply emotional, highly intellectual and complex noise, this brainless gory fun, this nihilistic evil, this fuzzed-out amplifier worship, this vicious brutality, this delicate beauty, this wacked-out experimentation, this heavy FUCKING metal.

It is not a perfect world, but it’s mine. It’s ours.


/thread. :)


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Gave my goosebumps. Very cool read.


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I agree with her but I also think it applies to pretty much any genre of music.


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noodles wrote:
I agree with her but I also think it applies to pretty much any genre of music.


? Tried a few other genres in there in place of metal, doesn't work.
"Pop-Punk is love. Pop-Punk is war" etc.


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punk is love punk is war punk is what you need it to be
blues is love blues is war blues is what you need it to be
jazz is love jazz is war jazz is what you need it to be
rock is love rock is war rock is what you need it to be
rap is love rap is war rap is what you need it to be
reggae is love reggae is war reg... FUCK

Metal is great and all but I don't think it has any kind of stranglehold on passion, community and diversity.


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Too much money and time spent on it. Can't afford to just let it go. Plus I don't want to concede to my mum's 'you-screwed-your-exams-because-of-that-crap-you-listen' rant and feel guilty about it :lol:

But to answer your question on how it all started and why still metal; I loved Classic Rock thanks to my uncles and as I grew older, I just wanted things to be faster and heavier. Maiden was my transition from Classic Rock to Metal. I was fascinated by how intimidating metal was - the crushing riffs accompanied by controversial lyrics. So all my allowance I got back in high school was spent on buying cassettes and discovering more bands, and that's when I was officially hooked. It was like dope. The desperation of finding cash and waiting for my next allowance so I can buy/discover more stuff, and the feel-good feeling when I listen to them. In fact even till today, if I go days without listening, I get a bit...ermmm...restless.

Of course, I do listen to other genres as well, even Indian/Tamil music, but I'll eventually go back to metal after a few hours.


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Reminds me of where I used to live and the people that were there and presently is the only way to learn from those I will have to spend the rest of eternity with. I like those people. Every time I listen to it and think about it I create energy. Very positive energy that makes us all so much stronger.

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Why Metal?

Why not?


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Why metal? because it makes me who i am and i love everything about it. You can do just about anything with it. And its not like all of it makes you angry. Nothing wrong with it because it makes you feel better about things that really piss you off in life. Metal to me can make you feel allot of things because over the years of listening to metal, sure not as long as allot of you here. I feel like ive found metal for just about every kind of mood you may be in. People who play in metal put there soul and hard work into it, good or bad. It takes years of practice just to get good at it. I wish more people could understand this. Everyone just wants to Listen to whats popular and never really enjoy music as they really should. if you truely enjoy music you will need to atleast listen a good handful of them. This is why i choose metal and i know no matter how old i get ill still be listening to it. I mean i know there's allot of bands i like now, i know i won't when im older but there's still a good amount i know i will and ive noticed the most recent bands ive been listening to, are ones with a ton of talent and i like them more then some of the bands ive been listen to for a while. For Example Alcest, Alcest has proven to be a very beautiful and well done band and there's so many aspects to the band i love. Well thats all i have to say. Take it or leave it :P


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