Metal Reviews

I could care less about the massive Christian population of Norway, your a fucking collectivist, and historically Norway wasn't Christian prior to the advent of the religion. The Christian conquistadors would kill anyone that maintained their pagan beliefs, and Christianity much like it poisoned Europe would eventually travel halfway across the globe and destroy the Americas. Is that the worthless religion you are seeking to protect, a culture debasing slave morality responsible for the death of millions? Hah, if only they would've burned more churches, mosques, Marxist classrooms, and evicted the Islamists out Europe wouldn't be too bad.

wtf are you talking about. Who said whatever you're railing against?

What an insight!

I was responding to this wonderful insight. It's all about how people feel, what a fruitcake.

I'm just curious what they think of it. That if I met someone from Norway and say yeah I listen to Emperor are they going to be put off is all I was wondering.

Once again, I think we should turn to Necrobutcher for some insight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43vJhGR6jyw&t=5m32s

I think people's opinion of Emperor evolved over time--most of the most notorious guys (Bard Faust, Tchort) grew up, admitted their mistakes, and became adults. By 2001 Emperor's last album was up for the Norwegian Grammy, and Ihsahn is now known as a well respected music teacher.

My thoughts on the movie:

Fenriz is the man.
Frost (was it Frost? The guy with the "art exhibit" where he pretends to kill himself) is a loser.
Varg is a charming evil bastard.

My opinion on church-burnings:

I am no fan of Christianity as a thing. I like to think I know why it exists, though, and I don't begrude people for being scared about their place in the universe, and/or listening to what their parents tell them. I have a live and let live type policy.

Now, the argument can be made that by building churches in Norway, Christians have forced themselves into a land where they don't belong and as such they are not letting live. The thing is, I only think this applies to the Christians that first rolled up into Norway, and built/converted churches.

By the time those churches got burned down, nothing these kids could do would be able to "defeat" Christianity. They were the aggressors in this instance, and all they successfully did was prevent people who wanted to mind their own business and pray from doing that, and more so probably out-and-out ruined their day. Which seems like a useless dick move when you can't actually do anything to change the fact that Christianity is fucking here to stay.

I don't like seeing churches all over the goddamn place, but I'm not about to burn them down just to be a dick and inconvience a boat-load of people I don't know and that have done nothing to me personally except believe in something that I think is bullshit, which as far as I'm concerned, they have the right to do.

No?

I'm pissed because these guys lived in Norway, a country which has consistently had one of the best "quality of life" rankings in the world. Not saying that the "virus religion" was a major boost in the overall QoL, but FFS, how the hell could these guys be so upset? That would be like a bunch of black rappers burning down cotton plants to get revenge on long dead white people that enslaved and raped their long dead ancestors.

What the fuck? Christianity didn't destroy the Americas; greed did. And greed is not a christian virtue, quite the opposite in fact.

Have to disagree with you. The catholic envoys killed our culture, burning our codex and most of our ancient knowledge. Christian virtues? Do you really believe that shit? Those virtues weren't applied in the Crusades, nor here.

Are you Native American? And what exactly do you mean by ancient knowledge?

Greed is not a Christian virtue / practice. The greed that took over the Americas was under the guise of Christianity, but I don't see how you can say that the religion itself is the cause of it.

I'm mexican. They destroyed our treaties in herbolaria, astrology, god worship, etc, and they brought a lot of diseases, death, destruction and obscurantism. Not much to thank those filthy spaniards. A lot of things they did were in the name of God, so I think in part the religion is responsible for poisoning the minds of the men.

Religious ideas and forms are made under certain circumstances. They are made to give humanity rules and regulations so they live the so-called better life at the point they were made. As a result, later on as centuries evolve they must evolve too but they don't. Religion has never been peaceful. Muhammad fought, so did Saladin and so many other wars that have been going as far as humanity can remember. Anyone that thinks religion can unite us is either living in a dream-world or is deeply delusional because it will never happen. All religious ideas at the end of the day are saying the same thing. But then come the ignorant followers that nit-pick the small differences and take it to extreme cases that result in discrimination and eventually disaster. The church burnings in Norway were something to open people's eyes but unfortunately the citizen of this lovely earth and their small digital minds do not work that way. They do not see beyond the point of "Oh... This is a satanic movement, and it must be stopped." I am not saying it was the totally right thing to do... But what would you be doing instead to show your anger and hate towards something that has been nothing but self-destructive to begin with?

Religion gives acts of everyday cruelty the guise of justice and righteousness.

Si se puede

Like what?

Yup. As such, religions are a means and not an end.

It also does stuff like this:

http://www.catholiccharitiesusa.org/

and this:

http://www.swchristiancare.org/hospice.aspx

I'm not a Christian, and I agree that it has played a part, in varying degrees to some of the West's greatest historical tragedies. But it plays a part in good things as well, but I don't think I could convince any well off Norwegian black metaller otherwise. We live in a very different world than the conquistadors and crusaders did.

You see... I know some very genuine people that are deeply religious. There is no doubt in my mind that religion CAN do well in the world. I also think there is a good balance between what negative and positive things it has done for the world until today (with leaning towards the negative). What I personally think is wrong with religion today is how it has been deeply misunderstood; the pretentious, that follow a veil of deceit. For what it's worth, good for those that have found a way out of religion into the utter depths of pure and genuine humanity that does need any confinement as it does not need AUTHORITY to give them the right to act upon things. Religion has to evolve with time. Nothing is constant and timeless.

Communist governments also had humanitarian outreaches to some degree, am I supposed to feel all warm and fuzzy because your local christ deluded fool reaches out and inevitably receives far more from their tax exemptions?