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My sentiments exactly.


More like a little bit of :lol: , a touch of :mad:, sprinkled with :rolleyes: , and whole lot of :wacko:


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Yeah, I listened to Keeper of the Seven Keys, Pt. 2 today. It kicked ass.


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Adveser just has way too much time on his hands.

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The Annoying Frenchman wrote:
Digging in the past is the best way to understand the present and anticipate the future. Plus, those albums already took the test of time.


It is one thing to ignore the past. It's another to give it a shot and realize you aren't missing much.

I still listen to a lot of older stuff that I already heard and enjoy. I'm just not interested in getting into anything haven't heard before.

I realized that I can't imagine wanting to hear Balls To The Wall instead of modern Progressive Power Metal. There is that and the fact that I am finding that listening to stuff that I can't really be used to practice with or something I can't learn from is pretty fruitless at this point. I'm pretty far beyond just listening to music for fun.

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Stand aside for the superior race you are nothing but worms I'm mightier than any God I'm greater than any man I am elite I'm harder than a diamond More powerful than an atom bomb Niggers and kikes, stay away I am elite I'm stronger than the power of universe More insane than a serial killer I'm wiser than all of you together More evil than the fires of hell I am elite

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Stand aside for the superior race you are nothing but worms I'm mightier than any God I'm greater than any man I am elite I'm harder than a diamond More powerful than an atom bomb Niggers and kikes, stay away I am elite I'm stronger than the power of universe More insane than a serial killer I'm wiser than all of you together More evil than the fires of hell I am elite

http://youtu.be/3P0yOud-KdY


well put. A very delusional man he is.

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huskerc7 wrote:
Stand aside for the superior race you are nothing but worms I'm mightier than any God I'm greater than any man I am elite I'm harder than a diamond More powerful than an atom bomb Niggers and kikes, stay away I am elite I'm stronger than the power of universe More insane than a serial killer I'm wiser than all of you together More evil than the fires of hell I am elite

http://youtu.be/3P0yOud-KdY


I haven't heard War in a long fucking time, that song is violent as hell. :dio:


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yeah I remember listening to war when I was like 16. fuck yeah.


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GeneralDiomedes wrote:
MetalStorm wrote:
Orion wrote:
:rolleyes:


My sentiments exactly.


More like a little bit of :lol: , a touch of :mad:, sprinkled with :rolleyes: , and whole lot of :wacko:


+1 :lol:

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The Annoying Frenchman wrote:
Digging in the past is the best way to understand the present and anticipate the future. Plus, those albums already took the test of time.


It is one thing to ignore the past. It's another to give it a shot and realize you aren't missing much.

I still listen to a lot of older stuff that I already heard and enjoy. I'm just not interested in getting into anything haven't heard before.

I realized that I can't imagine wanting to hear Balls To The Wall instead of modern Progressive Power Metal. There is that and the fact that I am finding that listening to stuff that I can't really be used to practice with or something I can't learn from is pretty fruitless at this point. I'm pretty far beyond just listening to music for fun.


You're "beyond just" listening to music for fun? Well aren't we oh so superior :lol: Here I was thinking I could be a self-important douche, but you, sir, take the cake with that post, lol.


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Definatly not, the whole deathcore/metalcore craze is still carrying it. allot of metal fans cant stand it, for understandable reasons. Personally i like a couple deathcore/metalcore bands because i feel there still good like Tony Danza. Considering metal began in the 60's with black sabbath and such and its been almost 50 years since then i doubt this very much. Metal is getting better and better and i know that some metal bands i listen to now will still be around 10-20 years from now. Plus metal has mostly been underground anyway. Also i know im still gonna be listening to metal when im a dad and living in my own house, maybe not as much but the metal bands ive really fallen in love with like Rammstein, Katatonia, Agalloch and Enslaved.


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Adveser wrote:
I realized that I can't imagine wanting to hear Balls To The Wall instead of modern Progressive Power Metal. I'm pretty far beyond just listening to music for fun.
Ummm some people just really like Accept and Priest. :rolleyes: I listened to Balls to the Wall yesterday. And would much prefer hearing it to some wankfest like Hibria. I don't know why you think people who listen to older music don't simply enjoy it like any other music. Even if it isn't as technically superior, in no way would you have those later bands if not for them and hence they provide a stepping stone to what is made now.

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That's just my opinion. There a ton of people that think the music I like is garbage. It doesn't diminish my enthusiasm, nor should my opinion influence anyone's listening habits. My problem is with the people that insist on doing just that.

I understand some people have never seriously spent insane amounts of time going through thousands of bands with even sacred cows being expendable and deemed irrelevant. I gave an honest effort and gave it a shot. I know people hate their strong opinions and feelings marginalized by someone claiming what they love is irrelevant.

I speak for me and it seems people are more used to speaking in a general sense or think that they can't openly say something that is historically inaccurate but is how they feel about a band. You'd never read a review that claims a hugely popular band hasn't done them any good, so fuck 'em. People take that personally for some reason. Meanwhile I listen to the most ridiculed music you could find in both metal and pop music.

I expect that everyone has a different standard. The reason these subgenres exist is to sell to a specific audience, There are a lot less fans these days and the less influence and fans a band has, the harder the argument it is to make that everything else, especially what is widely respected is useless.

I'm not here to convince you, I'm here to tell you what I think.

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I'm kind of in Adveser's boat in not enjoying music from the 70's and 80's as much outside of several bands that really had it down.


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huskerc7 wrote:
I'm kind of in Adveser's boat in not enjoying music from the 70's and 80's as much outside of several bands that really had it down.


Because the future of music is always better, IMO. People that get stuck in the past are too nostalgic. They're like those kids that never stop listening to Korn or Sublime and never accept that there's any new music out there. They don't keep their ears open.


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Yeah well Korn blows and Sublime blows outside of like 3 songs.


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The Evil Dead wrote:
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I'm kind of in Adveser's boat in not enjoying music from the 70's and 80's as much outside of several bands that really had it down.


Because the future of music is always better, IMO. People that get stuck in the past are too nostalgic. They're like those kids that never stop listening to Korn or Sublime and never accept that there's any new music out there. They don't keep their ears open.


Yeah, that must be it... could it be that perhaps some actually like the older stuff more?

I know it's an extremely difficult concept to comprehend and all, but...


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Adveser wrote:
That's just my opinion. There a ton of people that think the music I like is garbage. It doesn't diminish my enthusiasm, nor should my opinion influence anyone's listening habits. My problem is with the people that insist on doing just that.

I understand some people have never seriously spent insane amounts of time going through thousands of bands with even sacred cows being expendable and deemed irrelevant. I gave an honest effort and gave it a shot. I know people hate their strong opinions and feelings marginalized by someone claiming what they love is irrelevant.


It has nothing to do with your opinion. If you had simply left your post as is instead of literally inflicting judgement on those who view music and their enjoyment of music as differently from you, personally I wouldn't have had an issue with it. What a lot of people are reacting to is your tone of superiority over your own listening habits. When you say something like "I'm pretty far beyond just listening to music for fun," that mere phrase passes negative judgement. To say you are far beyond "just" (the word itself implying a lesser pursuit rather than equal but different pursuit) listening to music for fun, you are literally stating that listening to music "for fun" or enjoyment alone is of lesser importance than listening to it for your reasonings.

If you had stated your opinion only in relation to yourself, instead of stating your are "beyond" (typically implying being above or superior to something else or evolved beyond something that is in its very nature a regression) the reasons many people here listen to music.

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huskerc7 wrote:
I'm kind of in Adveser's boat in not enjoying music from the 70's and 80's as much outside of several bands that really had it down.


Because the future of music is always better, IMO. People that get stuck in the past are too nostalgic. They're like those kids that never stop listening to Korn or Sublime and never accept that there's any new music out there. They don't keep their ears open.


Really...future of music is always better? Where did you pick up that logic? Or is it based solely on your own tastes...which you're using as a measurement of what is being "too nostalgic" and what is "better" and "keeping one's ears open."


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Sceadugenga wrote:
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That's just my opinion. There a ton of people that think the music I like is garbage. It doesn't diminish my enthusiasm, nor should my opinion influence anyone's listening habits. My problem is with the people that insist on doing just that.

I understand some people have never seriously spent insane amounts of time going through thousands of bands with even sacred cows being expendable and deemed irrelevant. I gave an honest effort and gave it a shot. I know people hate their strong opinions and feelings marginalized by someone claiming what they love is irrelevant.


It has nothing to do with your opinion. If you had simply left your post as is instead of literally inflicting judgement on those who view music and their enjoyment of music as differently from you, personally I wouldn't have had an issue with it. What a lot of people are reacting to is your tone of superiority over your own listening habits. When you say something like "I'm pretty far beyond just listening to music for fun," that mere phrase passes negative judgement. To say you are far beyond "just" (the word itself implying a lesser pursuit rather than equal but different pursuit) listening to music for fun, you are literally stating that listening to music "for fun" or enjoyment alone is of lesser importance than listening to it for your reasonings.

If you had stated your opinion only in relation to yourself, instead of stating your are "beyond" (typically implying being above or superior to something else or evolved beyond something that is in its very nature a regression) the reasons many people here listen to music.

The Evil Dead wrote:
huskerc7 wrote:
I'm kind of in Adveser's boat in not enjoying music from the 70's and 80's as much outside of several bands that really had it down.


Because the future of music is always better, IMO. People that get stuck in the past are too nostalgic. They're like those kids that never stop listening to Korn or Sublime and never accept that there's any new music out there. They don't keep their ears open.


Really...future of music is always better? Where did you pick up that logic? Or is it based solely on your own tastes...which you're using as a measurement of what is being "too nostalgic" and what is "better" and "keeping one's ears open."


:lol: at "the future" of music, as if he has the uncanny ability to prophesy what lies ahead.

And :lol: :lol: at addy's pretentiousness run amok.


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Saying one period of music is better than another is silly because different time periods do different things, even within the same genres.


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Personally, I'm at the stage where my enjoyment of the music is the only thing that I take into account. I, superior being that I am, am far beyond listening to a piece of 20-minute drone or black metal and being carried off on wings of atmospheric glory - someone like Pink Floyd can do the same in four minutes, and give the listener a far better time in doing so. Now, does this mean that Pink Floyd are a better band than said 20 minuter? By god, yes. Whatever the advances being made now, the classics are still better in my view because they've stood the test of time - whether today's giants will be viewed as such in thirty years' time is another question. When I listen to some wonderful gem of an album from 1970, it packs far greater a punch than one released yesterday, and that's just the way music is. I think the future of music is very bright, but that doesn't mean that the past doesn't have all the best tunes.


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