the fastest and heaviest rock/metal song of 1970s?

doublewhat · **Posted:** Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:04 pm

What is the most fastest and most heaviest hard rock/heavy metal song of the 1970s?

Someone has been debating with me that it is Sheer Heart Attack or Stone Cold Crazy is.

Is there anything that would be considered faster?

Metastable To Chaos · **Posted:** Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:24 pm

Disco Inferno

garrixon · **Joined:** Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:49 am **Posts:** 83

Anything by the Carpenters

The_Voice · **Posted:** Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:45 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7wQLogDm3o

MetalStorm · **Posted:** Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:23 pm

Saints In Hell,Exciter or Beyond the Realms of Death.

Thrashtildeth · **Posted:** Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:19 am

Gotta be Overkill by Motorhead.

Easily, no?

Adveser · **Joined:** Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:26 am **Posts:** 2491

"Bastille Day" feels really fast even though the tempo is not all that fast. A lot of notes though. "The Red & The Black" is fairly busy too. Both of those are like quasi-metal, which is what I think Sabbath is too. Not quite there, but somewhere on the mark.

traptunderice · **Posted:** Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:29 am

Adveser wrote:

quasi-metal, which is what I think Sabbath is too.

get the fuck out with that shit.

Motorhead's Overkill I think has it. Or Exciter.

DevotedWalnut · **Posted:** Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:27 pm

OldSchool · **Posted:** Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:25 pm

Fastest: Exciter.
Heaviest: Dissident Aggressor.

GeneralDiomedes · **Posted:** Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:12 pm

Heaviest .. hmm .. I always thought Symptom of the Universe was pretty heavy.

Starts at around 4:50

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e-9HFWgPqc

Wintermute · **Posted:** Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:06 pm

Budgie - Breadfan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54H3EUAz ... re=related

It's pretty quick.

Also, there were some pretty fast punk tunes in the late 70s. Does punk fall into "hard rock?"

Adveser · **Joined:** Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:26 am **Posts:** 2491

traptunderice wrote:

Adveser wrote:

quasi-metal, which is what I think Sabbath is too.

get the fuck out with that shit.

Sorry, I think Metal started when Priest created the image of metal and decided there would be no "hit singles" or other bullshit on the record except metal songs.

I think Sabbath was a very heavy hard rock band. Metal started with either Blue Cheer or Steppenwolf or it started later when Metal became it's own thing. I wouldn't consider Sabbath's debut the first metal under any circumstances. It was either earlier or later. Sab have absolutely no claim to that at all either way. Playing in Eb does not make one a metal band.

I mean seriously? People think Zeppelin was metal? that is a stretch at best and Sabbath didn't really become a metal band until they worked with Birch.

I think very little of the 70's was metal at all, no matter how heavy.

We aren't really talking about how heavy something is for that discussion, but if it is metal and I don't think that term could be codified until the early 0's in retrospect.

I think people that think my definition is definitive or their own is is quite stupid. It's an opinion and nothing more.

Holy_Terror · **Posted:** Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:12 pm

To me the four fastest songs of the 70's are
He's a Woman She's a Man by the Scorpions
That's Rock N Roll and Free Me Now by Accept
and Exciter by Judas Priest. This one is probably the fastest.

Heaviest song of the 70's is Symptom of the Universe by Black Sabbath. That song is still heavy by today's standards.

Holy_Terror · **Posted:** Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:14 pm

Adveser wrote:

traptunderice wrote:

Adveser wrote:

quasi-metal, which is what I think Sabbath is too.

get the fuck out with that shit.

Sorry, I think Metal started when Priest created the image of metal and decided there would be no "hit singles" or other bullshit on the record except metal songs.

I think Sabbath was a very heavy hard rock band. Metal started with either Blue Cheer or Steppenwolf or it started later when Metal became it's own thing. I wouldn't consider Sabbath's debut the first metal under any circumstances. It was either earlier or later. Sab have absolutely no claim to that at all either way. Playing in Eb does not make one a metal band.

I mean seriously? People think Zeppelin was metal? that is a stretch at best and Sabbath didn't really become a metal band until they worked with Birch.

I think very little of the 70's was metal at all, no matter how heavy.

We aren't really talking about how heavy something is for that discussion, but if it is metal and I don't think that term could be codified until the early 0's in retrospect.

I think people that think my definition is definitive or their own is is quite stupid. It's an opinion and nothing more.

I think you're wrong about Zeppellin. While not categorically being a heavy metal band, they were playing some of the heaviest, most epic, harmonized music by the late 70's. Listen to Achilles Last Stand and tell me Led Zeppelin doesnt play heavy metal.

MetalStorm · **Posted:** Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:11 am

Adveser wrote:

traptunderice wrote:

Adveser wrote:

quasi-metal, which is what I think Sabbath is too.

get the fuck out with that shit.

Sorry, I think Metal started when Priest created the image of metal and decided there would be no "hit singles" or other bullshit on the record except metal songs.

I think Sabbath was a very heavy hard rock band. Metal started with either Blue Cheer or Steppenwolf or it started later when Metal became it's own thing. I wouldn't consider Sabbath's debut the first metal under any circumstances. It was either earlier or later. Sab have absolutely no claim to that at all either way. Playing in Eb does not make one a metal band.

I mean seriously? People think Zeppelin was metal? that is a stretch at best and Sabbath didn't really become a metal band until they worked with Birch.

I think very little of the 70's was metal at all, no matter how heavy.

We aren't really talking about how heavy something is for that discussion, but if it is metal and I don't think that term could be codified until the early 0's in retrospect.

I think people that think my definition is definitive or their own is is quite stupid. It's an opinion and nothing more.

Adveser · **Joined:** Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:26 am **Posts:** 2491

Holy_Terror wrote:

Adveser wrote:

traptunderice wrote:

Adveser wrote:

quasi-metal, which is what I think Sabbath is too.

get the fuck out with that shit.

Sorry, I think Metal started when Priest created the image of metal and decided there would be no "hit singles" or other bullshit on the record except metal songs.

I think Sabbath was a very heavy hard rock band. Metal started with either Blue Cheer or Steppenwolf or it started later when Metal became it's own thing. I wouldn't consider Sabbath's debut the first metal under any circumstances. It was either earlier or later. Sab have absolutely no claim to that at all either way. Playing in Eb does not make one a metal band.

I mean seriously? People think Zeppelin was metal? that is a stretch at best and Sabbath didn't really become a metal band until they worked with Birch.

I think very little of the 70's was metal at all, no matter how heavy.

We aren't really talking about how heavy something is for that discussion, but if it is metal and I don't think that term could be codified until the early 0's in retrospect.

I think people that think my definition is definitive or their own is is quite stupid. It's an opinion and nothing more.

I think you're wrong about Zeppellin. While not categorically being a heavy metal band, they were playing some of the heaviest, most epic, harmonized music by the late 70's. Listen to Achilles Last Stand and tell me Led Zeppelin doesnt play heavy metal.

Well, I think there were a ton of Hair Metal bands doing metal too, but I don't consider them "Heavy Metal"

Yeah, Zeppelin, Purple and I think Rush were playing what would eventually become metal, but it just was not known as such nor marketed that way until bands like Maiden and Priest decided to take it in that direction 100%.

Hard Rock pretty much forked into three genres in the early 80's: Hair Metal, AOR (think Starship/Survivor), Heavy Metal

The main distinction is that it was all retrospective. I do list "Heavy Metal" as one of the genres for Sabbath but if only because their post-70's output was most definitely metal. If they would have retired after firing Ozzy's ass, they would have been a Hard Rock band for sure. Just like Rainbow wasn't really a metal band, close but not quite there.

More picks:

Queen: "Stone Cold Crazy" (oops, I saw it was included in the OP after writing it in)

Robin Trower - "Day of the Eagle"

Ted Nugent - "Death By Misadventure"

Holy_Terror · **Posted:** Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:00 am

I'm actually ashamed I didnt think of this one earlier. But "Warrior" by Riot was released on "Rock City" in 1977 and both predates and is faster than "Exciter"....and is a better song overall. Can't believe I missed that one.

Goat · **Posted:** Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:07 am

King Crimson - 21st Century Schizoid Man.

1969!

Holy_Terror · **Posted:** Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:42 am

Not as fast as Warrior....and actually, there are certain parts of many Yes songs that are quite fast....I'm thinking maybe Siberian Katru

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