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Absolute gold


To sort of quote HammerfallÖ

ÄGet zour name out there bz anz means necessarz.Ä

Mz KB has switched to some other language, sorrz

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complete shitstorm


Hehe, that was a fun read.

@dead1 - We are no one. If you have any inclination towards enjoying death metal, you could check us out though, and it would be much appreciated.

http://menhir.bandcamp.com

@adveseer - No one is objecting to any factual critique of Townsend. If you don't like his style, then fine by me. My objection is to the fact that you act like a douche. Being poor and and still spending all your money on attempting to get better at music/production is impressive, but it doesn't make you any better than anyone else.

Oh, and all these bands you've done things for, got any names or samples? I'm curious to hear your producing/mixing/mastering skills ov doom.

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crast wrote:
lots of people wrote:
complete shitstorm


Oh, and all these bands you've done things for, got any names or samples? I'm curious to hear your producing/mixing/mastering skills ov doom.

.:crast:.


No samples because I am embarrassed by my work to be frank, until it sounds like a madonna single.

I remastered the Rush album Vapor Trails and sent out 25 copies for other people to distribute provided a POP was provided at the time. It got mixed reviews. Half loved it, half liked the original better. This was in 2004. Shortly after I announced my remaster Rush announced an official remaster. a month or two after I send out the discs and there was significant positive feedback, the official remaster was cancelled by Anthem. Take that as you will. I don't realistically think I was responsible for any of this, but I was a major player at the biggest Rush message board at the time, which the band read due to their comments in the press about it. I sourced my remaster from a guy called "musicintheabstract" that had eliminated the clipping noise from the album when we agreed that I could use his version to make the best copy of this album possible. Today, I am shocked anyone considered this to be a good master knowing what I do now about bass and pace, high end info as it relates to resolution, ect. The positive feedback only demonstrates to me, now, that my ears, even if completely missing several fallacies of good sound I know now that I could expect a half and half positive response.l

I mastered a couple local bands, one called "Ten Years From Now"

I remastered both Crimson Glory albums. I have no idea if they exist (were uploaded) outside of the CD's that the guy requesting it wanted. There were a few more like that, but I don't remember the details. I usually sent them through a few DSP's and called it a day unless there was something seriously weird about the album.

Remastered the Rush 1980 St. Louis promo/cancelled live album. Again, don't know how many people have this, but there's been a few versions floating around, some featuring my tracklisting and tracktimes for the album as I cut the tracks with the addition of Xanadu because it was not available at 2112.net because the guy who originally recorded the thing in 1980 ran out of tape before the show ended.

The recording was done for a record store owner who bought a 32 track portastudio, a 32 track mixer, tons of effects and whatever outboard gear walked through the door by customers. We used a full band and recorded everything as if we were doing a studio album, unfortunately they wanted me to set up and be ready to record in a half an hour from a full setup of everything so I was never happy enough with the sound to want to hear it again. He let me sing some songs throughout the night even though I was a really terrible singer at the time and thought it was very generous of me to offer 8 hours a week of my time for free as well as doing some things for him such as marking up vinyl I knew was out of print, ect. at the store during the 4 hours a day I was there. I was his personal sound engineer too, making sure the store's sound setup was top grade. I'm making it sound like chickenshit, but we had everything you needed to record a half million dollar budget album and I learned every circuit of what we had because I couldn't make decisions as I set up, if you get what I've been saying. I did this all before going to school for electronics. The band had no name, but we had over 30 people coming in and out of the fold because it was sort of who-showed-up as to who would play.

I don't expect people to think that is good enough, but please understand, I have worked my ass off for longer than some people have been musicians and I can't stand people questioning my abilities when I am more than willing to demonstrate them. Prove me wrong, please. You can only make me stronger if you succeed.

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Absolute gold


Plus one.


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Ok. I'll bite. Here is how you are wrong. Improve them.

1 - You are arrogant. Humility is a virtue. Learn it.
2 - You are delusional. You are an amateur, not a famous producer. By your logic a successful lemonade stand makes you better than the ceo of Coca Cola. Get back to reality.
3 - You are an amateur. Just because you had education it does not mean you are some big shit. You might be talented, but it does not mean anything more than a youtube video of a guy playing some great guitar and has a lot of skill, but goes and says "I am better than John Petrucci here is proof". You amateur work does not mean shit. This is a professional business. Do something professional first.


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I could have been a great guitarist. But $2000 amps and 3000 dollar guitars have never been anywhere close to reality


What did Eddie Van Halen start off playing?

You seem to be drawing a parallel between being a great producer (having a shit-ton of expensive equipment) and being a great guitarist (having lots of skill and at least a pinch of talent) as being the same thing.

Give me a $4000 guitar and a $10,000 amp and twenty pedalboards full of boutique pedals, racks full of effects units and the best soundman in the business and I still won't be good enough to be even a Z-rated metal guitarist... because I know I'm not good enough. I don't practice near enough. I fail to see what money has to do with anything in regards to being a great guitar player.


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Adveser wrote:
cry of the banshee wrote:
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Absolute gold


To sort of quote HammerfallÖ

ÄGet zour name out there bz anz means necessarz.Ä

Mz KB has switched to some other language, sorrz

Ö(


Get help.


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Wow, I genuinely feel sorry for the dude.


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At least apply for an internship somewhere. As douchey as you can be at times, you obviously know some shit about production. Send your resumé out and see if you can get started at a studio somewhere. It's not as if bragging here about how much you know will get you anywhere.


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The man is a member of one of the most famous bands in melodic death metal and released 3 albums you fucking twat! And what have you done that put you on that fucking high horse?



Who the heck is Canopy? I'd never heard of them and not even in stuff like Terrorizer mag which covers all manner of obscure stuff.

No offence to them but they are not a famous melodic Death Metal band or even a fourth tier player ala Corporation 187 (at least they were distributed via Earache).



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...and released 3 albums...


Lots of bands put out albums. With modern tech it's not too difficult to record them (except for drums which are a bitch).

The other thing is putting them out and selling them.

I used to co-own a label (Dead Pawn Productions later renamed Pawn Productions and now completely defunct) and while it was fun it was about as successful as selling bikinis in Antarctica.

Hell it's even got a listing on Metal Kingdom - well I never.

http://www.metalkingdom.net/album/searc ... mode=label

They are missing the Dead Pawn Compilation Volume I (which I don't even own anymore).

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http://www.xykhron.net/scent/releases.php

By the way CD's are cheap to have printed professionally. We were getting batches of 500 done for about $3.50 a pop. The more you produce the less you pay as economies of scale kick in.



Not trying to cheapen Canopy's achievements, but more trying to point out that they're (a.) not famous and (b) publishing music can be relatively easy and inexpensive.


You should've been my bands label, Aussie label for shitty 100th tier Cock and ball torture cover band. We would've been over there opening for Portal and Gospel of the Horns in no time.
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Adverser is my new favorite formite.


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Adverser is my new favorite formite.


You love him so much you deliberately misspell his name for comic effect!


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Adverser is my new favorite formite.


You love him so much you deliberately misspell his name for comic effect!


Yeah that's it. It has nothing to do with the fact that I've thought his name has been Adverser this whole time.... :unsure:


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You guys don't get it. Producing is a rich man's game. Who in the fuck can afford to take two years off to bring coffee to low-level engineers?

If I would have wind-falled into 10,000 bucks somehow at some point, I would be very in demand.

I really do appreciate the nice comments if sincere.

I grew up poor white fucking trash, if you think that has an impact on my ability to record an album, fuck you.

Again, it's a money game, which I don't have and never have had. It's like Yoda Saying luke was too poor to be a Jedi. It makes no fucking sense. Downloading E-books, buying a cheap mic and whatever cheap shit I can find to learn to record it has been my obsession. I am just glad it is the era it is where free ST and DSP plugs are common. It doesn't cost a fucking dime to learn, so that is what I did.

I could have been a great guitarist. But $2000 amps and 3000 dollar guitars have never been anywhere close to reality, so I chose the 20 dollar microphone and the 200 dollar PA because I don't give a flying fuck about having to eat garbage (never came to that, but close) to have the time to become a virtuoso.

And to be honest, being the poor white trash that lived in poverty, Half my teeth have rotted out and my Partial Plate has been saving my ass on vocals except for the silibant S I have (which I can roll off)

People acting like I am not Terry date at this point are being unfair and unrealistic.

If you don't think I am telling the truth SEND ME THE FUCKING STEM TRACKS AND TEST ME.

No one cares.


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metalNESS wrote:
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Adverser is my new favorite formite.


You love him so much you deliberately misspell his name for comic effect!


Yeah that's it. It has nothing to do with the fact that I've thought his name has been Adverser this whole time.... :unsure:


Also what the hell is formite? Some new kind of wood?


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JokerMachine wrote:
Adveser wrote:
I could have been a great guitarist. But $2000 amps and 3000 dollar guitars have never been anywhere close to reality


What did Eddie Van Halen start off playing?

You seem to be drawing a parallel between being a great producer (having a shit-ton of expensive equipment) and being a great guitarist (having lots of skill and at least a pinch of talent) as being the same thing.

Give me a $4000 guitar and a $10,000 amp and twenty pedalboards full of boutique pedals, racks full of effects units and the best soundman in the business and I still won't be good enough to be even a Z-rated metal guitarist... because I know I'm not good enough. I don't practice near enough. I fail to see what money has to do with anything in regards to being a great guitar player.


Playing in a band is what makes people good. No band is going to let a guy come in with a 15watt solid-state combo amp. You can't even hear that over the drums. Learning how to play through a proper amp is a skill in itself that shouldn't be taken too lightly.

You guys would have to meet me. I'm a thousand times more abrasive in print than I am in real life. I don't run around with some huge ego in real life. This is the internet where things get magnified and exaggerated to ridiculous degrees.

If I were an egotistical ass would I have worked with the same people for so long? The reality is that I am easy to get along with, but like here, I tend to ramble because of the severe ADHD and wind up apologizing for doing it a dozen times when I meet people. Some people downright love my personality for some reason, which I don't understand at all.

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Playing in a band is what makes people good. No band is going to let a guy come in with a 15watt solid-state combo amp. You can't even hear that over the drums. Learning how to play through a proper amp is a skill in itself that shouldn't be taken too lightly.


My band and I have played several clubs using rented equipment. In the garage, we practice through Soviet-era Radiotechnika amplifiers wired to hi-fi home speaker cabinets.

You're evading the point I was trying to make - which is that comparing being a producer and being a guitarist are two things that cannot be compared.


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Kathaarian wrote:
metalNESS wrote:
Goat wrote:
metalNESS wrote:
Adverser is my new favorite formite.


You love him so much you deliberately misspell his name for comic effect!


Yeah that's it. It has nothing to do with the fact that I've thought his name has been Adverser this whole time.... :unsure:


Also what the hell is formite? Some new kind of wood?


Yes, he is my new favorite kind of wood...


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Adveser wrote:
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I could have been a great guitarist. But $2000 amps and 3000 dollar guitars have never been anywhere close to reality


What did Eddie Van Halen start off playing?

You seem to be drawing a parallel between being a great producer (having a shit-ton of expensive equipment) and being a great guitarist (having lots of skill and at least a pinch of talent) as being the same thing.

Give me a $4000 guitar and a $10,000 amp and twenty pedalboards full of boutique pedals, racks full of effects units and the best soundman in the business and I still won't be good enough to be even a Z-rated metal guitarist... because I know I'm not good enough. I don't practice near enough. I fail to see what money has to do with anything in regards to being a great guitar player.


Playing in a band is what makes people good. No band is going to let a guy come in with a 15watt solid-state combo amp. You can't even hear that over the drums. Learning how to play through a proper amp is a skill in itself that shouldn't be taken too lightly.

You guys would have to meet me. I'm a thousand times more abrasive in print than I am in real life. I don't run around with some huge ego in real life. This is the internet where things get magnified and exaggerated to ridiculous degrees.

If I were an egotistical ass would I have worked with the same people for so long? The reality is that I am easy to get along with, but like here, I tend to ramble because of the severe ADHD and wind up apologizing for doing it a dozen times when I meet people. Some people downright love my personality for some reason, which I don't understand at all.



If you are not an egomaniac in real life please stop acting like one here. You are pissing a lot of people off.


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