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Rating this a 90 because their drummer died exhibits a lack of maturity. It sucks that he died, but a review should provide an unbiased judgement of the quality of the music by the reviewer, and while it's lacking in taste to mock the dead, this review seems to be full of critically unfiltered and drastically overstated praise for this band's deceased drummer (a "phenomenal drummer" he was certainly not) which is in my eyes almost equally distasteful. It's quite clear that emotions of outside circumstances got in the way of this review being an unbiased and critical assessment of the music, and it's a shame that they did.


Did u read what I said at all? I didn't give this a 90 because "the drummer died", I gave it a 90 because I wanted to give it an album of the year tag. Regardless of what you all think, the fact is that coming out with an album and carrying on with a band 7 MONTHS after your drummer and best friend dies is unbelievably brave act. Now I respect the fact that you might not like the album, but I DID, becuase I gave it a fair chance, I took it for what it is, I looked past the band's so called image and listened to the MUSIC. And further more, I doubt half of you have actually listened to the ENTIRE album, and I'd bet even less than that have actually ever played and instrument, so you don't really have any credibility. I didn't overstate a single thing in my review, I stand by every single thing I said, had a given this album a "normal" score I probably would've given it a 82ish, but that's not the point. Anyway, this will be the last time I post about this, I don't need to defend myself, I'm a reviewer at Metalreviews, (most of) u are not. So there. BOOM.


Ha ha, calm down now Ari Gold, you shot yourself in the foot there. There are a lot of musicians in this site, but that guy you're talking to, Legacy, was accepted to Berklee. You know, the school Portnoy went to.


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etch hell92 wrote:
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Rating this a 90 because their drummer died exhibits a lack of maturity. It sucks that he died, but a review should provide an unbiased judgement of the quality of the music by the reviewer, and while it's lacking in taste to mock the dead, this review seems to be full of critically unfiltered and drastically overstated praise for this band's deceased drummer (a "phenomenal drummer" he was certainly not) which is in my eyes almost equally distasteful. It's quite clear that emotions of outside circumstances got in the way of this review being an unbiased and critical assessment of the music, and it's a shame that they did.


Did u read what I said at all? I didn't give this a 90 because "the drummer died", I gave it a 90 because I wanted to give it an album of the year tag. Regardless of what you all think, the fact is that coming out with an album and carrying on with a band 7 MONTHS after your drummer and best friend dies is unbelievably brave act. Now I respect the fact that you might not like the album, but I DID, becuase I gave it a fair chance, I took it for what it is, I looked past the band's so called image and listened to the MUSIC. And further more, I doubt half of you have actually listened to the ENTIRE album, and I'd bet even less than that have actually ever played and instrument, so you don't really have any credibility. I didn't overstate a single thing in my review, I stand by every single thing I said, had a given this album a "normal" score I probably would've given it a 82ish, but that's not the point. Anyway, this will be the last time I post about this, I don't need to defend myself, I'm a reviewer at Metalreviews, (most of) u are not. So there. BOOM.

Actually, I played it twice to give it a fair chance and it sucked even harder the second time than it did the first. And, fyi, I used to play drums but had to switch to keyboards after a back injury, also, I can read music.
I think you're full of shit taking your readers' criticism like that. In fact, I seriously doubt your ability as a reviewer. You sure can write but can you write about music and metal in particular, I sincerely doubt it.


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So now I need to play an instrument in order to criticize an album?

Do I also need to be a chef in order to rate food?

Do I need to be a brewmeister to rate beers?

Do I need to be a plastic surgeon to rate fake boobies?


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Well, not sure about those, but I would say that you need to be able to type in order to criticise someone's writing. :wink:


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[quote="howlin'wolf"][quote="etch hell92"][quote="Legacy Of The Night"]Rating this a 90 because their drummer died exhibits a lack of maturity. It sucks that he died, but a review should provide an unbiased judgement of the quality of the music by the reviewer, and while it's lacking in taste to mock the dead, this review seems to be full of critically unfiltered and drastically overstated praise for this band's deceased drummer (a "phenomenal drummer" he was certainly not) which is in my eyes almost equally distasteful. It's quite clear that emotions of outside circumstances got in the way of this review being an unbiased and critical assessment of the music, and it's a shame that they did.[/quote]

Did u read what I said at all? I didn't give this a 90 because "the drummer died", I gave it a 90 because I wanted to give it an album of the year tag. Regardless of what you all think, the fact is that coming out with an album and carrying on with a band 7 MONTHS after your drummer and best friend dies is unbelievably brave act. Now I respect the fact that you might not like the album, but I DID, becuase I gave it a fair chance, I took it for what it is, I looked past the band's so called image and listened to the MUSIC. And further more, [b][u]I doubt half of you have actually listened to the ENTIRE album, and I'd bet even less than that have actually ever played and instrument[/u][/b], so you don't really have any credibility. I didn't overstate a single thing in my review, I stand by every single thing I said, had a given this album a "normal" score I probably would've given it a 82ish, but that's not the point. Anyway, this will be the last time I post about this, I don't need to defend myself, I'm a reviewer at Metalreviews, (most of) u are not. So there. BOOM.[/quote]
Actually, I played it twice to give it a fair chance and it sucked even harder the second time than it did the first. And, fyi, I used to play drums but had to switch to keyboards after a back injury, also, I can read music.
I think you're full of shit taking your readers' criticism like that. In fact, I seriously doubt your ability as a reviewer. You sure can write but can you write about music and metal in particular, I sincerely doubt it.[/quote]

I know I said the previous post was my last, but let me stop you there. For one, I don't think people need to be able to play music to give opinions on it, I just don't think people who don't understand the challenge of playing music should pretend that they know a good drummer from a bad drummer (at least in terms of bands that actually skilled and decent). And if you play music, great, so do I. Maybe saying that the Rev was a phenomanal drummer was a little overexaggerated, but you can't deny that he is a big influence on the new generation of musicians, just as A7X is inevitably one of the biggest bands of the generation, for better or for worse. Now as for myself as a reviewer, I think YOUR full of shit trying to bring me and my entire body of work down based on one review. My opinion of one album doesn't determine my ability as a writer. I welcome you to view some of my other reviews, I think you will change your tune a bit, unless you just so happen to hate all of those albums too.


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So, now, all you have to do to get a "album of the year" tag is to be incredibly brave... Bollocks.
This is a music webzine, not charity. Albums should be judged on their musical quality alone because, in the end, it's all that counts.
I doubted your ability, now I know you cannot be a reviewer at MR, period.


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howlin'wolf wrote:
So, now, all you have to do to get a "album of the year" tag is to be incredibly brave... Bollocks.
This is a music webzine, not charity. Albums should be judged on their musical quality alone because, in the end, it's all that counts.
I doubted your ability, now I know you cannot be a reviewer at MR, period.


Pfft, give the guy a break... The review is well-written and thought-provoking which is what music writing should be. Even if the conclusions it draws are controversial.


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etch hell92 wrote:
just as A7X is inevitably one of the biggest bands of the generation,

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Seriously though, could you at the very least learn how to post properly on these boards? Your last few messages have been a jumbled mess.


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Seriously though, could you at the very least learn how to post properly on these boards? Your last few messages have been a jumbled mess.


Yeah, I'm not sure what's happening there. The HTML tags don't seem to be working for him. :huh:


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rio wrote:
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So, now, all you have to do to get a "album of the year" tag is to be incredibly brave... Bollocks.
This is a music webzine, not charity. Albums should be judged on their musical quality alone because, in the end, it's all that counts.
I doubted your ability, now I know you cannot be a reviewer at MR, period.


Pfft, give the guy a break... The review is well-written and thought-provoking which is what music writing should be. Even if the conclusions it draws are controversial.

I have no problem with controversial points of view. I have a problem with someone rating an album too high because of his compassion towards a drama the band has lived. That's complete nonsense.


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And awaaaaay we go...
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We were already long gone, man. :lol:


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We were already long gone, man. :lol:


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howlin'wolf wrote:
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So, now, all you have to do to get a "album of the year" tag is to be incredibly brave... Bollocks.
This is a music webzine, not charity. Albums should be judged on their musical quality alone because, in the end, it's all that counts.
I doubted your ability, now I know you cannot be a reviewer at MR, period.


Pfft, give the guy a break... The review is well-written and thought-provoking which is what music writing should be. Even if the conclusions it draws are controversial.

I have no problem with controversial points of view. I have a problem with someone rating an album too high because of his compassion towards a drama the band has lived. That's complete nonsense.


You still don't get it, do you? Let me make this as clear as humanly possible. I didn't give the album a 90 becuase I feel sorry for the band, or because I wanted to honor the Rev. I gave it a 90 FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE of being able to name it one of my albums of the year, becuase so far this year, this has been one of the most memorable releases (FOR ME!!), and as such, it will be one of the releases that defines the year for me, which is how I define an album of the year. If you actually read my review, or stopped being such an ignorant prick, you would've picked up on that one. And as for me not being able to be a MR reviewer, guess what? I still am an MR reviewer, and your still not. Scoreboard motherfucker.


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Did anyone else think that the drumming on this album was really boring? Basic beats with no energy or groove to them. My main criticisms would be that and the way the songs jump from between different moods/ideas without much cohesion or logic to the transitions.


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My black metal magic with the tags has worked!

etch hell92 wrote:
Let me make this as clear as humanly possible. I didn't give the album a 90 becuase I feel sorry for the band, or because I wanted to honor the Rev.


in the review, you wrote:
Jimmy truly was a special musician and artist, and as such, this album, the last thing that he will ever give to his fans, deserves no less of an honor. RIP my friend; I truly hope you would approve of this review.


I think this section of the review is where people are picking that idea up from.

I get your argument about defining the year, but it probably would have been better to mention that in the year-end best-of list, rather than deciding that this is enough of a reason to bump the score. I mean, haters will hate this band whatever the score, and I agree with them, but if, say, I reviewed Dissection's Reinkaos after Jon N. ate a shotgun and called him my friend and bumped the score, people would rightly think I was being sarcastic.

And really, being an MR reviewer isn't some badge of honour that people can argue over who deserves it, like a frigging purple heart. You can either write good metal reviews, or you can't. What I'm trying to say is, peace, bredren.


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My main criticisms would be that and the way the songs jump from between different moods/ideas without much cohesion or logic to the transitions.
Wait, is this A7X we're talking about or Opeth? :P


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Yeah, I'm not sure what's happening there. The HTML tags don't seem to be working for him. :huh:


Because you've turned them off for the whole site looks like.


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etch hell92 wrote:
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rio wrote:
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So, now, all you have to do to get a "album of the year" tag is to be incredibly brave... Bollocks.
This is a music webzine, not charity. Albums should be judged on their musical quality alone because, in the end, it's all that counts.
I doubted your ability, now I know you cannot be a reviewer at MR, period.


Pfft, give the guy a break... The review is well-written and thought-provoking which is what music writing should be. Even if the conclusions it draws are controversial.

I have no problem with controversial points of view. I have a problem with someone rating an album too high because of his compassion towards a drama the band has lived. That's complete nonsense.


You still don't get it, do you? Let me make this as clear as humanly possible. I didn't give the album a 90 becuase I feel sorry for the band, or because I wanted to honor the Rev. I gave it a 90 FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE of being able to name it one of my albums of the year, becuase so far this year, this has been one of the most memorable releases (FOR ME!!), and as such, it will be one of the releases that defines the year for me, which is how I define an album of the year. If you actually read my review, or stopped being such an ignorant prick, you would've picked up on that one. And as for me not being able to be a MR reviewer, guess what? I still am an MR reviewer, and your still not. Scoreboard motherfucker.

I don't want to be a reviewer at MR nor do I want to be a reviewer for any other webzine.
You said yourself this album was high 70s/low 80s for you and it's still album of the year material? Should be a pretty awful musical year for poor Tyler.
And, judging on how you overrated this, I doubt your other work especially since you gave a 95 (5 points higher than A7X and no special tag, go figure!) to something I judge midly decent (that's Every Time I Die if you're wondering and not Everytime I Die like you wrote).
You've been a reviewer for less than two months and proved nothing. Sure, you can write but not everybody can write about music and I think you cannot and, mind you, I've read about every review you have submited here and every time I think you're just not good. Maybe you'll get better, maybe you won't but, as far as I'm concerned, you're a poor addition to a webzine that usually have high standards. I don't think you'll last very long actually but maybe will you prove me wrong and become a worthy addition to a great team something I cannot consider you to be as of today. Sorry.

Out of curiosity, how old are you and how long have you been listening to metal?


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Yeah, I'm not sure what's happening there. The HTML tags don't seem to be working for him. :huh:


Because you've turned them off for the whole site looks like.


I have? :omfg: They're working for me.


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