Metal Reviews

1) They want to offer something.
2) I want to accept the offer.
3) Meaningless pre-coitus rituals are annoying.

Christ, I don't "feel like I can use them however I like." If I want to talk, I go find intelligent, smart girls, usually at the pub near the local college. If I want to have scantily dressed idiots cavorting around me I go to the club. The girls at the pub want to chat. The girls at the club want something more physical. The fact that they still feel they need to chat is ridiculous, a hangover from social decorum.

Again, it's not exploitation if both parties are consenting. What's so hard about this?

Poor old Fridge, can't even go to a strip club without trapt getting all on his case with that feminist nonsense. What's the world coming to.

It's actually anti-feminist to take up that position. I mean, my librarian is an idiot. I interact with him to check out books, not to chat. Chatting makes the whole book-checking-out process a pain in the ass. See the analogy? He's there to give me books, not to chat. Miss Skirt-Higher-Than-Her-IQ on the dancefloor isn't there to chat either.

You're assuming they're offering it up. What you call cavorting like a whore, they may see as a solid social bonding venture. Assume they're just craving your dick and that they're only chatting to create some quasi form of connection which they don't even want anyways.

Wow and I thought I was gay for listening to club music.

Hey, if a woman wants to sell herself to put her through college, that's her right. You could see the transaction as more than taking a book out of a library - interesting analogy, actually, since libraries get government funding and you need a membership card. Hm.



Step 1 - admit that there's a problem.

It's anti-feminist to claim that women aren't instruments who exist just to be fucked? They obviously can't think to your high caliber of standards so what other purpose would they have besides taking it between the supports?

Edit: Did this become about strippers?

Far too naive. Come on, how often do you go to clubs?

It's anti-feminist to assume that women aren't able to determine for themselves the correct amount of worth to attribute to their sexuality. Or that they need to be protected from putting out in clubs.

I'd be surprised if half of you guys even go out.

This is why pimps are needed. Although I'm with you, man, prostitution should totally be legalised.

How am I naive? I've been to clubs; I'm not a daily peruser. I know women who go to clubs. When they go, they don't go to get fucked; they go to have fun in a social setting with some cardio dancing on the side. The cardio bit is a little tongue-in-cheek. But you're the wise man of whores so I should just respect your authority on the subject, no?

I try, but the clubs here are shit. Lady GaGa, Black Eyed Peas and Europop on constant replay.

I'm not saying they should be protected; they simply shouldn't be the victim of predation when they're looking for a legitimate bond. Women can do what they like with their sexuality; Emma Goldman ftw, but there has to be some form of legitimate audience with no coercive intentions which respects the control of their own sexuality. You're discard the chit chat which they obviously want to participate in since they are doing so is disrespectful.

I'm engaged, work full-time and go to school full-time; I have neither time nor desire to "beat the beats".

I'm not talking about the entire female population of a club. :S
Denying that a sizeable handful of girls there want only to express their sexuality is naive. Assuming that they'd be interesting to talk to is even worse.

How is discarding the chit chat coercion? I don't want to talk; if they want to, I leave, I don't ball-gag them and drag them into the bathroom. Jesus.

So they're just objects for sex?

If they didn't want to talk, they don't have to so assuming that you can just throw it out and get down to business is ignoring what they're obviously choosing to do.

No. Sexuality for its own sake means they become objects?

What?? I wish they didn't want to talk. I wish they realized themselves that it's merely a societal standard imposed upon a freer expression of sexuality. They want to talk, I don't. I wish they were more like me. How the fuck is that coercion??