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Oh come on...




Fair enough I've never taught in an black-dominated school, but this reads like someone who can barely walk because of the size of the chip on their shoulder.

Course, you could quite easily interpret this line



And turn it into an anecdotal slander of white people who vote for Sarah Palin.



Reading your article it kinda sounds like he has a point, yo!

You get dissent from the standard line from time to time, but they sure don't gain much traction in the community.

http://www.amazon.com/Stupid-Black-Men- ... 0312367333

I think constantly playing on white guilt ultimately just makes people resentful, reinforces racial stereotypes and perpetuates victim mentality. The problem with the victim mentality of course, is that you see the problem and solution within other people.

The vast majority of people I know are more than willing to give anyone a fair shake, and really it does make my heart soar when I see members of traditionally discriminated against groups like Natives who "get it" and take it upon themselves to improve their lot in life.

How quick you are to make that claim regarding the author, yet cannot believe that blacks have "a chip on their shoulder".
haha, no, you just hate it because it shatters your Marxist illusion of the benign, gentle black man struggling to do whats right in the face of Overwhelming 24/7/365 Evil, White Oppression™. Anyway, it is amazing how a Brit somehow has his finger on the pulse of not only American politics, but American race relations, as well... you yourself admitted you have no first hand experience in what the man writes about, I have, and I can tell you that's EXACTLY what it is like; boorish, violent, ignorant, arrogant, hypersexual, irresponsible...


You speak of Palin and Conservatism (which is irrelevant, and an attempt to whitewash the article by means of discrediting the author, OMG, he's a conservative, therefore he must be a "racist"), so let's not start with the Marxism and liberal excuse making, o.k.?
50 years of liberal excuses and throwing money at the problem has gotten us / them where? Things are worse than ever before.

I agree.

So it's down to the victims of racism to get over their "victimhood" and improve their lot? Not all of the unemployed are doing it just to piss the rest of us off.

I can say with a pretty high degree of confidence that the percent of people not hired because of racism is minute at best, perhaps even negligable. It would benefit no one to discriminate potential employees on the basis of race. It's not like any company with their heads screwed on right will say "You have an impressive resume, and you seem to have good credentials, but unfortunately, you're black and we just can't have that kind of thing in this company," and any company that does is on the path to failure, and rightfully should be.

The way I see it, the "victimhood" you speak of is mainly self-imposed. All the "it's becuase I'm black, isn't it?" mentality seems to hold people back more than any external prejudice imposed on the black community.

True, but is victimhood a constructive mentality regardless of the situation? I guess what I'm saying is of all the obstacles facing an under or unemployed person, victim mentality is one of the more prominent. Of course we have to give them a fair chance to succeed, but the greatest change must come from within.

Eh, I'm not saying you're wrong, but you seem to assume automatically that businesses operate under an equal-opportunity, liberal mandate because to not do so would be silly, and I can tell you from personal experience that that's a dangerously naive way of looking at the issue. Racism still exists, perhaps not as obviously as before, and blaming everything on the one espousing victimhood is just crazy.

It depends on how it is viewed. I'm sure plenty of black people don't see it as victimhood, but as a constructive mindset based around making life better - that it is dismissed as just lazy victimhood by the right-wing doesn't make it so. Obviously, there will be some who genuinely are lazy, but blaming this on their "blackness" is outright racism and there are better ways of looking at it than this sort of black/white (ho!) extremes.

I think it's possible to analyze one particular factor.

Well, I guess you are equally naive about how possible it is for a hard working black person to succeed (or at least avoid failure). It is eminently possible.

No-one's denying that.

Companies not hiring because of the applicant being black = bullshit.
Business knows one color, green.
As for this omnipresent racism that permeates every aspect of black life, I call bullshit on that, too.
The only racism going on is the liberal notion fed to the black community that they can't succeed on their own. That's basically what they are saying, and they gobble that shit up.
And of course hucksters like Sharpton (he of Tiwana Brawley and the Duke rape hoax bandwagon) Jackson and all the other exclusively black clubs (Black Caucus, NAACP, etc.) benefit as well from this scam. And so do the liberal pols, by way of vote guarantees.
Blacks are allowed their own fraternities, schools, television networks, contests, awards, political groups, scholarships, etc etc, and still insist on equal representation amongst everthing else, in addition to their own exclusive events, organizations etc... yep, that sounds fair and equal... the president can meet with black community leaders to discuss how yet more funds can be diverted to the BLACK community exclusively, and nobody bats an eyelash, let alone cries racism. The AG Holder (a black man) can state that "Hate crime victim status cannot apply to Christian white males" (so much for equal protection under the law, I guess), and that's just fine and dandy.
If those things mentioned were attempted by whites, the shit would hit the fan and everybody knows it. Yep, racism is alive in well in these here "United" States. Give me a fucking break, already.

The "racism" excuse has been used for so long it doesn't even mean anything anymore. It has been used since forever, and what have the results been? Here's a novel idea: straighten up, pay attention in school, have a little self-discipline, get rid of the mentality of everything is the fault of someone else (otherwise known as personal responsibility) and who knows, maybe we'll see some different results. Seems to work fine for just about every other group on the planet.

Define "blackness".
How is making excuses and blaming others, while expecting a handout, a constructive mindset?

Not all black people make excuses and blame others, as you put it, and as I've already said, there's more to it than that.

You should watch this, btw:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1068646/

I never said ALL black people do, either.
So show me some eveidence that there is more to it than a culture of blame, excuses and entitlement.
A culture that glorifies violence, crime, sexual conquest, instant gratification and irresonsibilty, while looking down in derision on the opposite as being "white".
A 70% bastardy rate are somehow the fault of YT?

Trust me, EVERYTHING to blacks in America are seen in black vs. white, us vs. them. I know, I fucking live here.
You will not find a more ethnocentric group here.


As for the movie, we are not talking about blacks in Paris, and having no experience with them, will not comment on them.

You'd be wrong though.

http://oncampus.macleans.ca/education/2 ... imination/



(And that's in Canada, and based on names.)

Has exactly jackshit to do with anything we are talking about.

So, some black people do blame whites for everything, yes, and there are problems with the culture which glorifies violence etc. Same for whites, some of whom blame immigrants etc for everything. Moaning about a specific "bastardy" rate is silly, considering that there are reports that fewer people are getting married over here due to the recession, and eventually they expect a majority to not bother.

Re the movie, I suggested it because you'd find similarities between the US and France in that regard.

Edit: forgot to put quote marks around "bastardy".

Legacy said: "It's not like any company with their heads screwed on right will say "You have an impressive resume, and you seem to have good credentials, but unfortunately, you're black and we just can't have that kind of thing in this company," and any company that does is on the path to failure, and rightfully should be. "

I provided an example of exactly that happening a lot of the time.

Seems pretty relevant tbh

Anyways here's one about black names in the US, even more relevant (and an even bigger number!)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/09/ ... 5685.shtml

"After responding to 1,300 classified ads with dummy resumes, the authors found black-sounding names were 50 percent less likely to get a callback than white-sounding names with comparable resumes."