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 Post subject: 'Wolfmother - Cosmic Egg (#6022)'
PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:57 pm 
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Wolfmother - Cosmic Egg
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Quoted: 72 / 100


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:18 pm 
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Fair review Zad, though given all that you said, I think the quote is a little high.

Why even a low 70 for mediocre, unoriginal music?


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Floating eggs, dude! Plus, it is quite enjoyable if you put your brain aside.


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Typical snarky review from a reviewer that enjoys negativity.

This album is fantastic, despite it's obvious influence. Like that ever matters.

And Mike Patton is a turd.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:11 pm 
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Well I own the first one and this is a pretty perfect summary of the way I think of it; so if this is anything similar the review is probably fair.

Wolfmother DON'T have an original bone in their body. It's stupid to demand people be completely uncritical of music just because it does a good job of following a template.


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Satan's Anus wrote:
Typical snarky review from a reviewer that enjoys negativity.


What's your problem? How was that snarky? Right, just for that.

http://www.metalreviews.com/reviews/detail.php3?id=3313

you, in the comments, wrote:
The best comparison is Jet meets The Darkness meets The White Stripes, the latter two mainly for the vocals. At the end of the day, though, I feel that it's too similar in scope with bands like Jet and The Darkness; the band is in the right place, but they're too content with being "retro" than actually being good. Just because you may be a throwback band (of sorts), doesn't mean you're good. They lack the passion and the quality songs of those bands and that era they're trying to emulate or pay tribute to or whatever.

Verdict: Middle of the road. Mediocre. 50/100.


Recognise that? They've not improved especially since then. Is not fantastic, despite IT IS obvious influence, hurrrr.


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rio wrote:
Well I own the first one and this is a pretty perfect summary of the way I think of it; so if this is anything similar the review is probably fair.

Wolfmother DON'T have an original bone in their body. It's stupid to demand people be completely uncritical of music just because it does a good job of following a template.

What does following a template have to do with the music, though? The songs are either good, bad, or in between. Whether or not it's unoriginal is irrelevant. Especially considering 99.9% of the bands out there are unoriginal.


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Satan's Anus wrote:
rio wrote:
Well I own the first one and this is a pretty perfect summary of the way I think of it; so if this is anything similar the review is probably fair.

Wolfmother DON'T have an original bone in their body. It's stupid to demand people be completely uncritical of music just because it does a good job of following a template.

What does following a template have to do with the music, though? The songs are either good, bad, or in between. Whether or not it's unoriginal is irrelevant. Especially considering 99.9% of the bands out there are unoriginal.


Eh, I get where you're coming from, but if a band is a complete rip-off of another band or band/s, it deserves attention. Weren't you the one complaining that Rage Against The Machine ripped Downset or someone off?


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Goat wrote:
Satan's Anus wrote:
Typical snarky review from a reviewer that enjoys negativity.


What's your problem? How was that snarky? Right, just for that.

http://www.metalreviews.com/reviews/detail.php3?id=3313

you, in the comments, wrote:
The best comparison is Jet meets The Darkness meets The White Stripes, the latter two mainly for the vocals. At the end of the day, though, I feel that it's too similar in scope with bands like Jet and The Darkness; the band is in the right place, but they're too content with being "retro" than actually being good. Just because you may be a throwback band (of sorts), doesn't mean you're good. They lack the passion and the quality songs of those bands and that era they're trying to emulate or pay tribute to or whatever.

Verdict: Middle of the road. Mediocre. 50/100.


Recognise that? They've not improved especially since then. Is not fantastic, despite IT IS obvious influence, hurrrr.

Yeah, and I still don't like the debut. Nothing has changed.

You'll notice there's no deriding "humor" like in your review, where you're trying to play to the generation of Internet hipsters that would rather talk about things they hate than things they enjoy. Ah yes, Wolfmother are posers, right?

:rolleyes:


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Goat wrote:
Satan's Anus wrote:
rio wrote:
Well I own the first one and this is a pretty perfect summary of the way I think of it; so if this is anything similar the review is probably fair.

Wolfmother DON'T have an original bone in their body. It's stupid to demand people be completely uncritical of music just because it does a good job of following a template.

What does following a template have to do with the music, though? The songs are either good, bad, or in between. Whether or not it's unoriginal is irrelevant. Especially considering 99.9% of the bands out there are unoriginal.


Eh, I get where you're coming from, but if a band is a complete rip-off of another band or band/s, it deserves attention. Weren't you the one complaining that Rage Against The Machine ripped Downset or someone off?

I always complain about that, but I also love Rage Against The Machine. Why? Because those fuckers wrote some great tunes.


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Yeah, and I still don't like the debut. Nothing has changed.

You'll notice there's no deriding "humor" like in your review, where you're trying to play to the generation of Internet hipsters that would rather talk about things they hate than things they enjoy. Ah yes, Wolfmother are posers, right?

:rolleyes:


Utter rot. I'm trying to be funny about bad things to appeal to internet hipsters? You talk bollocks, sirrah.


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Btw, why all the hate for the White Stripes??

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Satan's Anus wrote:
rio wrote:
Well I own the first one and this is a pretty perfect summary of the way I think of it; so if this is anything similar the review is probably fair.

Wolfmother DON'T have an original bone in their body. It's stupid to demand people be completely uncritical of music just because it does a good job of following a template.

What does following a template have to do with the music, though? The songs are either good, bad, or in between. Whether or not it's unoriginal is irrelevant. Especially considering 99.9% of the bands out there are unoriginal.


You can't really believe that surely... You're taking the common sense observation that all music is part of a chain of inspiration with everybody feeding off the people before them, and turning that to mean that there is no originality. Good bands take their influences and add their own elements to create something new.

Now, I can't comment on Cosmic Egg, but based on the debut, Wolfmother don't do that at all. You seem to be saying this is way better, so I'll have to listen to it and see.

However, maybe it is just me, but if a band is simply repeating things that have been done before, be they bedroom black metal band #559673, pretty much any neo-thrash act, or Wolfmother, then you really have to just ask "what the hell is the point in doing what you're doing?". And they certainly shouldn't be getting scores above the 70s.


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FrigidSymphony wrote:
Btw, why all the hate for the White Stripes??


Because they are trendy bollocks?


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rio wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
Btw, why all the hate for the White Stripes??


Because they are trendy bollocks?


You make baby Jesus cry.

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I liked the White Stripes once I'd heard more than Seven Nation Army and that other song that was big a while back. Trendy, sure, but decent if you listen to albums rather than singles.


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FrigidSymphony wrote:
rio wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
Btw, why all the hate for the White Stripes??


Because they are trendy bollocks?


You make baby Jesus cry.


Ironically, just like Jesus, the White Stripes are loved predominantly by people who do so simply because other people love them.

:P


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rio wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
rio wrote:
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Btw, why all the hate for the White Stripes??


Because they are trendy bollocks?


You make baby Jesus cry.


Ironically, just like Jesus, the White Stripes are loved predominantly by people who do so simply because other people love them.

:P


:lol: :lol:

However, what Zad said. Elephant is one of my favourite albums of all time, and while their other discs don't hold up to it, they're also quite good.

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Internet hipsters that would rather talk about things they hate than things they enjoy.

Thats me. Tell me about your day.


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I think Slayer should consider renaming their latest album to World painted stupidity. That’s more relevant, and that’s why we need to paint it blood. I know , I know , everyone has different taste and we should respect that like any good child would do and… and,,, and,,, buzz buzz buzz


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