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Germans will probably eat this shit up .. but for the rest of us this sounds really really bad.


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Holy_Terror wrote:
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So yeah, just listed to those 30 second previews. Bad idea. I don't mind acoustic albums, but... this is pretty much shit. Apologies to Holy Terror.


No apology necessary, and in regards to what Anus boy had to say, you're right, it's their music and they can do whatever they want with it, but if its not justified TO ME, then that plays a large role in my decision to hate it. So again, this is totally consistent with one expressing one's opinion.

And if after listening to it, you think they did this because they wanted to, without any financial motivation, or expectation of reaching a more commerciable audience, then you're a fucking moron. Such a drastic change in sound, i.e. from metal to pop, especially with songs that are their "hits", is so fucking transparent its unbelievable. You can go on and on about how they're just doing what they want to, but the fact is, its a business, and they know that their new stuff isnt as good or as famous as the old stuff. SO why not take the old stuff and make it more commercially friendly? That's the line of reasoning, anything else just doesnt make sense, not for a group of guys that damn near invented a genre.

First off, this is not a commercial album. CLEARLY. Pop does not equate to mainstream commercial. Quit being stupid.

Secondly, while Helloween may not have produced a so-called classic since the first few album, they are FAR more popular today.


Did you even listen to the clip? Listen to it and then shut the fuck up.

I listened to all the clips. And I'm still right.


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This is german cheese pop all the way .. top 40 smash hits are clearly not part of the master plan, although they might be hoping for a cult hit or two, the kind you hear in a quirky college bar.


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I still fail to see the problem with that. I mean, metal's great and all, but I do like my alternatives.


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I still fail to see the problem with that. I mean, metal's great and all, but I do like my alternatives.



It sounds like fucking Kidz Bop. If you fail to see the problem with that then I don't know what to tell ya.


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I still fail to see the problem with that.


There's no problem with it, other than it isn't that great .. I mean maybe if I was really drunk in a bar and having a good time and this came on I might enjoy it, but otherwise no.

Really they can do whatever they want. Hell, this is the same band who made Pink Bubbles Go Ape.


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It sounds like fucking Kidz Bop. If you fail to see the problem with that then I don't know what to tell ya.


Your second dad sounds like Kidz Bop when he's playing with his nipples.


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*doesn't know who/what/why Kids Bop is, and isn't going to look them up*

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*doesn't know who/what/why Kids Bop is, and isn't going to look them up*

:cool:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEstcTKr ... re=related



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The reason this is not ok is the motivation behind it. Why such a drastic change? Why choose to re-record your most well-known songs? Why choose to make it this sappy lame shit that is done by every boy band/teen idol on Mtv? What could possibly be the motivation behind this? They can't seriously expect most of their fans to get behind this? They clearly have forsaken their old fans, (the ones who are pretty fanatical about heavy metal) and are gearing this towards the new generation of fans who don't mind a heavy dosage of pop in their metal. Nocturnal Rites did something similar. All of their new albums sound like Euro pop. Why do this unless you're in it for the cash? That's why this is sickening, because they tarnished something that was truly awesome and turned it into the thing metal hates most, commercial media. What a fucking bummer. Helloween was such a giant in the metal world, now what are they? A bunch of old men pining for attention.


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The reason this is not ok is the motivation behind it. Why such a drastic change? Why choose to re-record your most well-known songs? Why choose to make it this sappy lame shit that is done by every boy band/teen idol on Mtv? What could possibly be the motivation behind this? They can't seriously expect most of their fans to get behind this? They clearly have forsaken their old fans, (the ones who are pretty fanatical about heavy metal) and are gearing this towards the new generation of fans who don't mind a heavy dosage of pop in their metal. Nocturnal Rites did something similar. All of their new albums sound like Euro pop. Why do this unless you're in it for the cash? That's why this is sickening, because they tarnished something that was truly awesome and turned it into the thing metal hates most, commercial media. What a fucking bummer. Helloween was such a giant in the metal world, now what are they? A bunch of old men pining for attention.


BAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWW! THIS ISN'T LIKE THE GOOD OLD DAYS -- EVEN THOUGH I WASN'T BORN DURING THAT TIME! HOW DARE THEY! I OUGHT TO GO RIGHT OVER THERE AND SMACK THEM WITH MY PURSE! MEAN OLD HELLOWEEN FOR RUINING MY DREAMS!


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TheOctavarius wrote:
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The reason this is not ok is the motivation behind it. Why such a drastic change? Why choose to re-record your most well-known songs? Why choose to make it this sappy lame shit that is done by every boy band/teen idol on Mtv? What could possibly be the motivation behind this? They can't seriously expect most of their fans to get behind this? They clearly have forsaken their old fans, (the ones who are pretty fanatical about heavy metal) and are gearing this towards the new generation of fans who don't mind a heavy dosage of pop in their metal. Nocturnal Rites did something similar. All of their new albums sound like Euro pop. Why do this unless you're in it for the cash? That's why this is sickening, because they tarnished something that was truly awesome and turned it into the thing metal hates most, commercial media. What a fucking bummer. Helloween was such a giant in the metal world, now what are they? A bunch of old men pining for attention.


BAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWW! THIS ISN'T LIKE THE GOOD OLD DAYS -- EVEN THOUGH I WASN'T BORN DURING THAT TIME! HOW DARE THEY! I OUGHT TO GO RIGHT OVER THERE AND SMACK THEM WITH MY PURSE! MEAN OLD HELLOWEEN FOR RUINING MY DREAMS!


Actually, I was alive during that period.


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Back to your old ways I see. And you were doing so well acting like a grown up.


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I'll stop when you stop, you delicious thing you.


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TheOctavarius wrote:
I'll stop when you stop, you delicious thing you.


When I stop what? Giving my opinion and then supporting it with an argument? Guess we're all going to be suffering from reading posts produced by your misshapen and inadequate brain. I'm still not sure what your goal is. It's not to produce intelligent comments. It seems like you were made fun of a lot in school so now you try to make people hate you before they get chance to analyze and hate you on their own. It's a pretty common/pathetic defense mechanism.

By the way, I checked the spelling so I've eliminated your fall back comment. Hopefully this will force you to say something intelligent.


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Stop PMS'ing.


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Nice, we can add that to your greatest hits. Are there any other insults left over from middle school? This is probably that point in time when you tell yourself that its not you, its everyone else who has the problem. Then you go masturbate and cry.


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Holy_Terror wrote:
The reason this is not ok is the motivation behind it. Why such a drastic change? Why choose to re-record your most well-known songs? Why choose to make it this sappy lame shit that is done by every boy band/teen idol on Mtv? What could possibly be the motivation behind this? They can't seriously expect most of their fans to get behind this? They clearly have forsaken their old fans, (the ones who are pretty fanatical about heavy metal) and are gearing this towards the new generation of fans who don't mind a heavy dosage of pop in their metal. Nocturnal Rites did something similar. All of their new albums sound like Euro pop. Why do this unless you're in it for the cash? That's why this is sickening, because they tarnished something that was truly awesome and turned it into the thing metal hates most, commercial media. What a fucking bummer. Helloween was such a giant in the metal world, now what are they? A bunch of old men pining for attention.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

You are such a miserable turd. After all your blathering about forums being for discussing and expressing opinions, there really is no sense in talking to you about anything.

You're a know-it-all that doesn't know. It's all speculation presented as fact. I'm not trying to pull an Octovaryingdegreesofidiocy here, but you don't come off as a conversationalist.


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And here I thought we was getting along.


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Satan's Anus wrote:
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The reason this is not ok is the motivation behind it. Why such a drastic change? Why choose to re-record your most well-known songs? Why choose to make it this sappy lame shit that is done by every boy band/teen idol on Mtv? What could possibly be the motivation behind this? They can't seriously expect most of their fans to get behind this? They clearly have forsaken their old fans, (the ones who are pretty fanatical about heavy metal) and are gearing this towards the new generation of fans who don't mind a heavy dosage of pop in their metal. Nocturnal Rites did something similar. All of their new albums sound like Euro pop. Why do this unless you're in it for the cash? That's why this is sickening, because they tarnished something that was truly awesome and turned it into the thing metal hates most, commercial media. What a fucking bummer. Helloween was such a giant in the metal world, now what are they? A bunch of old men pining for attention.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

You are such a miserable turd. After all your blathering about forums being for discussing and expressing opinions, there really is no sense in talking to you about anything.

You're a know-it-all that doesn't know. It's all speculation presented as fact. I'm not trying to pull an Octovaryingdegreesofidiocy here, but you don't come off as a conversationalist.


Really? What talking have you done other than throwing around insults and accusations? You attempted to discuss the topic earlier but then gave up when you realized I wasnt convinced by your fan boy bull shit. Try coming up with reasons for what you believe or have some substance behind the things you say. I gave reasons for why I believe the way I do. What have you done other than piss and moan about how difficult I am to reason with, WHEN YOU HAVE NOT ATTEMPTED TO REASON WITH ME. Caps means its important. Read that part again you little shit and give it a try.

I understand that you like this worthless garbage recording. That's fine, I never told you that you were wrong. I just told you ALL OF THE REASONS why I thought it sucked. You, having no meaningful argument, told me about all the bad things you think I've done :wacko: , but support it with nothing.

So I reiterate, before you're going to tell someone that they're wrong, and then call them a turd, have some reasons for it other than "he doesnt like something I like :sad: ." Stop being a bitch and come up with something good.


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