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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:50 pm 
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The re-arrangements are funny as fuck. I won't be buying this, but I'll definitely download it.

For the rest, I'm with Ken.

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Afro_D-Shak wrote:
So yeah, just listed to those 30 second previews. Bad idea. I don't mind acoustic albums, but... this is pretty much shit. Apologies to Holy Terror.


No apology necessary, and in regards to what Anus boy had to say, you're right, it's their music and they can do whatever they want with it, but if its not justified TO ME, then that plays a large role in my decision to hate it. So again, this is totally consistent with one expressing one's opinion.

And if after listening to it, you think they did this because they wanted to, without any financial motivation, or expectation of reaching a more commerciable audience, then you're a fucking moron. Such a drastic change in sound, i.e. from metal to pop, especially with songs that are their "hits", is so fucking transparent its unbelievable. You can go on and on about how they're just doing what they want to, but the fact is, its a business, and they know that their new stuff isnt as good or as famous as the old stuff. SO why not take the old stuff and make it more commercially friendly? That's the line of reasoning, anything else just doesnt make sense, not for a group of guys that damn near invented a genre.

First off, this is not a commercial album. CLEARLY. Pop does not equate to mainstream commercial. Quit being stupid.

Secondly, while Helloween may not have produced a so-called classic since the first few album, they are FAR more popular today.


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 Post subject: Re: Oh My God, I can't believe they did this.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:17 am 
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Well, Mr. Weikath and the rest of the Helloween boys have decided to shit all over the band's legacy by rearranging classic songs from the Kiske era, along with the shit from the Deris era which frankly was never good so rearranging it is irrelevant. But the Kiske material....oh the Kiske material....why why why!!!!???? This has got to be the most tragic thing I've heard in quite some time. Taking songs that are absolute heavy metal classics, and turning them into top forty pop shit is unforgiveable. I havent liked Helloween since Kiske left....Chameleon has a few good songs on it, but after that nothing has been good.....and now this. My god, what have they done?


http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbe ... mID=131559

I fully agree, this is the worst shite I've heard in all of 2009 and my sis' watches MTV. :mad:


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Oh man I didn't see the clip at the bottom. Acoustic? Really?


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Oh man I didn't see the clip at the bottom. Acoustic? Really?

It's worse than that. It really does sound like synth pop or something. What a shame. :sad:


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Satan's Anus wrote:
Holy_Terror wrote:
Afro_D-Shak wrote:
So yeah, just listed to those 30 second previews. Bad idea. I don't mind acoustic albums, but... this is pretty much shit. Apologies to Holy Terror.


No apology necessary, and in regards to what Anus boy had to say, you're right, it's their music and they can do whatever they want with it, but if its not justified TO ME, then that plays a large role in my decision to hate it. So again, this is totally consistent with one expressing one's opinion.

And if after listening to it, you think they did this because they wanted to, without any financial motivation, or expectation of reaching a more commerciable audience, then you're a fucking moron. Such a drastic change in sound, i.e. from metal to pop, especially with songs that are their "hits", is so fucking transparent its unbelievable. You can go on and on about how they're just doing what they want to, but the fact is, its a business, and they know that their new stuff isnt as good or as famous as the old stuff. SO why not take the old stuff and make it more commercially friendly? That's the line of reasoning, anything else just doesnt make sense, not for a group of guys that damn near invented a genre.

First off, this is not a commercial album. CLEARLY. Pop does not equate to mainstream commercial. Quit being stupid.

Secondly, while Helloween may not have produced a so-called classic since the first few album, they are FAR more popular today.


Did you even listen to the clip? Listen to it and then shut the fuck up.


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Synth pop or no, I like it.


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That's wonderful. I hope you enjoy it for many years to come.


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I'll enjoy it as much as I enjoy your company in bed, baby. :wink:

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Glad I could be of service.


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Holy Terror Bitch Gripe #432.


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That was a helpful post. Thanks for contributing metal storm you're a real valuable asset to the site.


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The zingers are flowing today, aren't they?


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Holy_Terror wrote:
That was a helpful post. Thanks for contributing metal storm you're a real valuable asset to the site.


And you are?

Seriously you do nothing but bitch and complain about every fucking thing. Opinion is one thing but it seems almost every post I read of yours it's whining about something. Metallica this Helloween that wa wa wa wa STFU already :rolleyes:

So what's on the menu next week HT. Halford too gay for you,maybe Simone Simmons from Epica doesn't wear enough panties for your taste come on tell us maybe we need a new forum "Holy Terror's Bitch Fest Forum"maybe have a weekly gripe thread.


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Ouch. Even I felt that one.


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Two eskimos sitting by an igloo paused their fishing to exchange wary glances.


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MetalStorm wrote:
Holy_Terror wrote:
That was a helpful post. Thanks for contributing metal storm you're a real valuable asset to the site.


And you are?

Seriously you do nothing but bitch and complain about every fucking thing. Opinion is one thing but it seems almost every post I read of yours it's whining about something. Metallica this Helloween that wa wa wa wa STFU already :rolleyes:

So what's on the menu next week HT. Halford too gay for you,maybe Simone Simmons from Epica doesn't wear enough panties for your taste come on tell us maybe we need a new forum "Holy Terror's Bitch Fest Forum"maybe have a weekly gripe thread.


Isnt that what forums are for? For people to express ther opinions? If you don't like my opinion, then tell me that and give me reasons why you disagree, don't sit there like a bitch and tell me that you don't like the fact that I'm expressing my opinion. Did I touch a nerve with this one, are you some fucking fan boy who can't handle it when someone shits all over one of their belove bands? Or is it that you're just a mostrous retard and have forgottent the essential purpose of a forum?

Either contribute something meaninful or shut the fuck up. You came on to the thread just to tell me that you don't like me expressing my opinion....that everything I say is negative. Then comb the fuckin forum and look at everytime I've praised a band or said that I like something, then do what you did this time except tell me how happy you are that I'm talking about something I like. Seems to me that unless you do that you're the fuckin hypocrite. And it seems pretty ludicrous to me to bitch about someone bitching. Seems pretty fucking stupid.

Also seems pretty fuckin stupid for someone to get angry when someone calls the out for contributing absolutely nothing but petty insults and girlish little complaints. Fuck you man, grow a pair and think of some intelligent way to argue with me over the topic. Leave the girly shit elsewhere. You don't like me that's one thing, but if you're going to tell me that you don't like me expressing my opinion, well that's entirely different, and much less justified than you hating me. Get your shit straight asshole.


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Ok lads, you've had your fun, now let's get back to the far more important topic of Helloween.


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Yeah, you behave yourselves! Dammit, I wish more people looked to me for inspiration...

Pop is cool. Therefore, Helloween pop is cool.


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Goat wrote:
Ok lads, you've had your fun, now let's get back to the far more important topic of Helloween.


I have no problem with that, but it appears to be difficult for others. Oh if only we lived in a perfect world where no one disagreed with anyone, then there woud be no pants-wetting.


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