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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:44 am 
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http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=128503

I was reading the Tolkki comments by fellow forum readers in the Strato/Polaris review and then I saw this over at Blabbermouth. :wacko:


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:08 am 
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Lawl. Tolkki...


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I really don't know the backstory for any of this, but from what I can figure out so far, this Tolkki guy's a dick.


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Legacy Of The Night wrote:
I really don't know the backstory for any of this, but from what I can figure out so far, this Tolkki guy's a dick.


I don't think he is a dick. He is just crazy. Like, he literally has mental issues. This story is a mild version of his craziness.


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Classy to the last, Timo. :lol:


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The internet rulz :dio:

I don't understand when such situations (members getting fired/leave) happen. 'Conflicting musical directions' always seem to be the main reason. It's understood if it happens to a band that started together and some members just fell out of place over time; like Chris Barnes did. But if the members were recruited as hired guns just to materialize the leader's 'vision', how could there be musical difference?

Then again I don't really know how RR was formed, so I'm just assuming that Tolkki is the leader and the rest were recruited.


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hellraiser_xes wrote:
The internet rulz :dio:

I don't understand when such situations (members getting fired/leave) happen. 'Conflicting musical directions' always seem to be the main reason. It's understood if it happens to a band that started together and some members just fell out of place over time; like Chris Barnes did. But if the members were recruited as hired guns just to materialize the leader's 'vision', how could there be musical difference?

Then again I don't really know how RR was formed, so I'm just assuming that Tolkki is the leader and the rest were recruited.


I think that "different musical directions" or whatever is just the excuse bands use when they fire someone for more base reasons.

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FrigidSymphony wrote:
hellraiser_xes wrote:
The internet rulz :dio:

I don't understand when such situations (members getting fired/leave) happen. 'Conflicting musical directions' always seem to be the main reason. It's understood if it happens to a band that started together and some members just fell out of place over time; like Chris Barnes did. But if the members were recruited as hired guns just to materialize the leader's 'vision', how could there be musical difference?

Then again I don't really know how RR was formed, so I'm just assuming that Tolkki is the leader and the rest were recruited.


I think that "different musical directions" or whatever is just the excuse bands use when they fire someone for more base reasons.


It's a reason no doubt, but certainly very vague. I'm sure the fans would like to know what the real reason was. On the contrary, it's a very convenient reason, at least no one is made to look like a villain to the fans.


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hellraiser_xes wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
hellraiser_xes wrote:
The internet rulz :dio:

I don't understand when such situations (members getting fired/leave) happen. 'Conflicting musical directions' always seem to be the main reason. It's understood if it happens to a band that started together and some members just fell out of place over time; like Chris Barnes did. But if the members were recruited as hired guns just to materialize the leader's 'vision', how could there be musical difference?

Then again I don't really know how RR was formed, so I'm just assuming that Tolkki is the leader and the rest were recruited.


I think that "different musical directions" or whatever is just the excuse bands use when they fire someone for more base reasons.


It's a reason no doubt, but certainly very vague. I'm sure the fans would like to know what the real reason was. On the contrary, it's a very convenient reason, at least no one is made to look like a villain to the fans.


It's basically comfortable for everyone. The people doing the firing don't come across as heartless bastards, and the people getting fired don't come across as incapable, or lazy, or just not good enough.

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hellraiser_xes wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
hellraiser_xes wrote:
The internet rulz :dio:

I don't understand when such situations (members getting fired/leave) happen. 'Conflicting musical directions' always seem to be the main reason. It's understood if it happens to a band that started together and some members just fell out of place over time; like Chris Barnes did. But if the members were recruited as hired guns just to materialize the leader's 'vision', how could there be musical difference?

Then again I don't really know how RR was formed, so I'm just assuming that Tolkki is the leader and the rest were recruited.


I think that "different musical directions" or whatever is just the excuse bands use when they fire someone for more base reasons.


It's a reason no doubt, but certainly very vague. I'm sure the fans would like to know what the real reason was. On the contrary, it's a very convenient reason, at least no one is made to look like a villain to the fans.

The thing with 'hired guns' is that they aren't always guaranteed to last because although you can see someone's musical talent within a few minutes, figuring out how their personality is going to mesh with the rest of the band is more tricky. Bands that started together more often than not were friends with each other beforehand.


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Radagast wrote:
hellraiser_xes wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
hellraiser_xes wrote:
The internet rulz :dio:

I don't understand when such situations (members getting fired/leave) happen. 'Conflicting musical directions' always seem to be the main reason. It's understood if it happens to a band that started together and some members just fell out of place over time; like Chris Barnes did. But if the members were recruited as hired guns just to materialize the leader's 'vision', how could there be musical difference?

Then again I don't really know how RR was formed, so I'm just assuming that Tolkki is the leader and the rest were recruited.


I think that "different musical directions" or whatever is just the excuse bands use when they fire someone for more base reasons.


It's a reason no doubt, but certainly very vague. I'm sure the fans would like to know what the real reason was. On the contrary, it's a very convenient reason, at least no one is made to look like a villain to the fans.

The thing with 'hired guns' is that they aren't always guaranteed to last because although you can see someone's musical talent within a few minutes, figuring out how their personality is going to mesh with the rest of the band is more tricky. Bands that started together more often than not were friends with each other beforehand.


Or could have come together after answering a classifieds ad :P


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