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Creation mythology does not necessarily equal Christianity.
Do you actually take what is written in the bible literally?
That whole "6,000 year" thing is a red herring, anyway.
Anybody with a brain developed beyond that of an earthworm's knows that the cosmos have been around a bit longer than a few thousand years.
I am waiting for some proof that the cosmos and everything in it were NOT created, because to make an absolute claim such as that, there should be some kind of proof to back it up. Otherwise, you are relying on the same blind faith that the true-believers rely on, albeit a diametrically opposed one.
All the ideas that science has come up with (big bang, etc,) are mere theory, and based on a sort of faith, themselves. No way to prove or disprove it, yet the very same people that embrace this are the same ones that deny the possibility of a creator.

See, I am not deluded enough to believe I know one way or the other; there is no way the human mind can even begin to comprehend the concept of infinity, or even what time is, for that matter.
Anybody that claims to know about what happens after death, or what life is, where it comes from, or how the universe originated, or whether or not their is a creator is deluding themselves.

Anyway, whatever. I'm not convinced myself (at this time, at least) that there is an all loving, benevolent god that created the cosmos, but, I am at least open-minded enough to acknowledge that it is a possibility, as unlikely as it seems. And I don't feel as if I have to engage in a crusade to change peoples minds, either.
Everybody has to find their own answers to their own questions in their own way.
And that is really all that I have to say on the matter, because it is a pointless discussion.

Well, there is much proof that the Big Bang happened

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... _bang.html

for example, because otherwise it wouldn't be such a widely-accepted theory.

Ironically, the Big Bang Theory originated from a Catholic Priest (Georges LeMaitre). Although, at the time, it was called the Primeval Atom Theory. It didn't get the name "Big Bang" until about 20 years later, due to a sarcastic comment by astronomer Fred Hoyle.

Just adds another layer of "Huh?" to the way some hardcore-Christians are so much against it.

It's still unprovable and it still doesn't answer where that "universe the size of a gumball" originated from, and what macrocosmos it existed within before expanding, to begin with, though.
Let's all be honest here and face the truth: the human mind is unable to comprehend such concepts. It's like an onion, where each layer is another unanswered question resulting from the answer of the previous layer, only this onion is of atronomical, infinite proportions.

as if you guys are still going about this crap.

Oxford english dictionary, then.



http://www.askoxford.com/results/?view= ... ore%2Cname

What's wrong with believing that God, no existe? Atheists find the absence of a God more likely than the existence of one, and so roll with that. Believing in the absence of something requires less of a leap of faith than in its existence, and I think that's what Fridge is trying to get at.

I gots no problem wit dat. But atheism is the denial that a god exists; that to me is as much a leap of faith as saying one does.
It only makes sense to be doubtful in the light of any evidence, but to outright deny the possibility?
It's the smug self-assured "I'm right, you're wrong" attitude of a lot of atheists that really annoys me. It's no different from those bible-thumpers that try to slip in a few tracts about how we are all sinners and doomed to the everlasting lake of fire whenever they get the chance.

The term "atheist" has really been twisted and turned during the last half-century. The reason why is because "classical atheism" (denial of God's existence) is more-or-less dead, except may be among some internet atheists. So it's now become a rather ambiguous term. People like Sam Harris are really classical agnostics. But they're given the "atheist" label because of how broad the term has become over the years.

As someone who now calls himself and atheist, I'm not sure as to why I would need to argue my position or demand that a believer in a 'God' figure defend their position? Additionally, I don't feel that 'belief' factors into the decision making process of calling oneself an atheist. One simply uses intellect to deduce that (for them) God simply does not exist. I have yet to hear, see, or experience anything that would have me 'believe' that there is a God. Belief, conjurs a feeling or an opinion usually based upon having no proof/evidence to support that position. For myself, I find that there is enough evidence to the contrary of a divine being/intelligence for me to rationally and intelligently deduce that there isn't a 'God'.

I could have sworn that this was a Megadeth review thread

To bring up the Sam Harris example again, he doesn't use the term "atheist". His reasoning is that he wouldn't call himself an a-astrologist or an a-alchemist. The term atheist gives credence to the religious position, whereas he's trying to dismiss it. He's simply not superstitious.

Then the proper term would probably be "non-theist." Simply meaning he's irreligious.



And do you honestly think atheists aren't also frequently guilty of philosophical errors and faulty/ad-hoc reasoning?

Yeah, we should drag this back to reality guys. If anyone still wants to argue it start a thread in Heilhem.

Quite frankly, I don't even think there's anything to argue. This thread is basically loaded with almost nothing but biased opinions and blanket accusations.

Christ. MEGADETH - ENDGAME here. Argue about God here.

THANK YOU.

Now that I can actually state my opinion on it without getting in the middle of a retarded fight... I bought Endgame last night and I love it. Listening to it for about the... fourth time right now, actually. WAY better than United Abominations, or... well, anything else since Youthanasia. Haha. 89 / 100.

Only heard Headcrusher for now, and it's fucking awesome, it's damn thrashy, though I loved the musical direction of United Abominations, I'll post again after hearing the whole album.

Listening to it for the first time. Definitely enjoying it; so far, it's had that perfect mix of fun Megadeth thrash mixed with just enough melody- hope it's this good throughout the whole thing.