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you people (FS) are pathetic

So... yeah I'm really excited to hear this one. IT'S ON THE WAY!!!!

I was about to lambast you simpletons for getting off topic, but I guess since this thread started out as "Dave Mustaine is Jesus" I suppose it hasn't ventured too far away.

Leave it to good ole Dave to bring out the loonies and the Truthers. I haven't heard this yet, but I know I got it for a birthday present. I'm fine with conspiracy theory nonsense as long as he isn't quoting bible verses in song and writing White Metal shit like Never Walk Alone.

Conspiracy theories in music is quite alright. Omega COnspiracy by Agent Steel is quite a good album and Vox In Excelcis by Saracen is as well. I guess the problem comes in when the members of the band take the conspiracy to heart and then couple it with their own religious/moral beliefs and lord it over people like they're better than them......Dave Mustaine is a perfect example. Like I said before, he was much more enjoyable when he was on drugs.

Ain't that always the truth?

Indeed, tis a shame, but it's the sad truth.

I don't want to get wrapped up in Metalreviews Religion Discussion Number 1,345,332. But I must address this statement, since you've made it a lot here: that is not the definition of "faith." It's just a stupid Richard Dawkins quote. Faith means "trust." To give a more scientific definition, it means "belief in something with evidence but (perhaps) without absolute proof." Similarly, scientists have faith that Evolutionary Theory is true. And couples have faith in the loyalty of each other. Belief in something without evidence is not faith. It's superstition (in other words, stupidity).

BTW, for the record, Jefferson was actually a Unitarian/Deist mix.

He still looks like he's on them to me.



Did Dawkins take a leak in your cornflakes or something bible boy?

Nah, he just stole my favorite watch.

He appreciates your time.

I agree with Seinfeld.
Science has "faith" in numerous "theorys", so what is the difference?
Can science prove evolution beyond theory?
Can science explain what life is and where does it go when it ends?
Isn't it an axiom of physics that all physical energy does not simply disappear, it simply transmutates, e.g., water into steam, etc?
Can Science explain just exactly what time is, in words?
Can science measure the universe? The distance between galaxies? It can "theorize", buts thats about it.
What about the various theorys regarding electricity?
We take it on good faith that electrical current is the flow of electrons that occurs when a difference in potential is acheived across a physical body. And that in digital logic, 1 and 1 = 1, while 0 and 1 = 0, 1 and 0 = 0, 0 and 0= 0, etc.
You can't see these things, yet they exist.
Sounds an awful lot like faith, to me.


I have no need for religion, personally, but if some derive something positive from it, what the fuck's the problem?
Everbody has their own life experience to learn from, what works for you may not work for me, etc.

As for this:



I call bullshit.
Religion, like science, is a human invention.
The problem is not religion any more than it is science; the problem is the nature of Man.
Without science, there would be no hydrogen bombs, chemical weapons, or biological weapons. So tell me again what will ultimately be the thing that wipes us out (barring some form of natural disaster, of course)?"

Sooooo.. Endgame, huh? Pretty good, right?

Dave looked high as a kite on Jimmy Fallon's show.

Sounds an awful lot like the rhetorical techniques used by creationists or proponents of intelligent design.

The point COTB was trying to make is that, whether some may like to admit it or not, science has boundaries/limitations. Specifically, it's limited by the naturalistic universe itself. This doesn't at all diminish its value, of course. But when a scientist makes an argument for or against the existence of the supernatural, he's arguing for or against something that's beyond the scope of science. This is why I'm in complete agreement with those who say ID should not be taught in science classes. It isn't science. It's philosophy/metaphysics.

Being neither, I am merely playing (ironically) devil's advocate.
The point is, since you seemed to have missed it, is that religion does not hold a monoply on "faith".
The proselytizing done by the anti-religion crowd is just as annoying as that done by the religion crowd.
Why can't people just let other people draw their own conclusions about life, death and whatever else, without having to beat their chests and shove their beliefs down everybody elses throats?

Zad, I'm honestly amazed people still buy the whole "9/11 was an inside job" theory. It had may be one or two weeks in the spotlight with that Zeitgeist movie a couple years ago. Immediately after, it was debunked by publications like Popular Mechanics. Anybody who still cites it is in serious need of a reality check.

lol

It looks like he's about to go forth and fight a dark power with his insane 7-string shredz.