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There was absolutely no valid reason to send him back to Libya, though, someone really fucked up there. Considering what the Yanks do to the poor sods in Guantanamo, we're quite within our rights to keep someone actually convicted of a crime such as mass murder locked up for more than eight years, whatever the conspiracy theories are - and let's not forget, that's all that the opposing argument can come up with. I think he probably did it, and see no reason why he should get to go home when legitimate asylum seekers have to languish in prison camps over here. British government sucks.
Given that the one witness against him was clearly coached when one checks his earlier and later statements and there was no other non-circumstantial evidence, I would say that in no way was the State's case proven and in no way is the State in the right to keep him locked up. Call it a 'conspiracy theory' all you want, but if you look at the facts of the case that was brought against this man, you will see that he was probably convicted due to some form of xenophobia.
and what's this shit about 'considering what the yanks do?' Do you think that's a watermark that the British government should be striving for, to emulate the American government? Or do you think that as long as America's doing those unspeakable things, all the other Western governments should join in on the fun?
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Eye for an eye?
Than the bastard should have been put on a slab.
I have no doubt that this man did not do it, and as such, he should not have been put on
any slabs.
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Eye for an eye?
Than, I assume that you are 100% in support of the Afgahanistan invasion, since Bin Laden was responsible for 9/11, right?
I was unaware that the use of violence against states to punish non-state actors based in no particular country was a fundamentally sound and sensible strategy!
For that matter, what to you justifies the State monopolization of force against other States? 9/11 was a drop of water in the sea of violence that the United States has funded and enabled over the past sixty-plus years. A man strikes another man again and again and again and again until he is broken and hemorrhaging and purple-blue with bruises; then when another man strikes the first man and gives him a slight bruise on the cheekbone, it is condemned and the third man is labeled an international pariah for daring to upset the established status quo.
Now, do not get me wrong; I do not support the loose coalition of institutions defined by the CIA as Al-Qaeda, or their goals and the goals of their sister organizations' to establish a global Salafi Sunni caliphate. But the manner in which the US has conducted itself in the global arena since its establishment as a superpower is a manner that
invites defiant action. If I, or you, or any of us are to condemn 9/11 as a despicable act, then we must as well condemn the actions of the United States in installing dozens of militaristic dictatorships that have stolen millions of lives over the past sixty-plus years, in engaging in unwarranted military action against various weaker states for the crime of not subjugating themselves to the will of the United States, in it and the Western Worlds' casual embrace of economic policies that continue to starve people to death every day.
We must condemn all these acts as despicable as well, all these fundamentally grotesque acts spit onto the face of humanity by the United States and the global order of Western countries, and if you weigh the civilian deaths caused by these actions against the civilians killed on 9/11, then you will find the scale supremely weighted in one direction.