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 Post subject: 'Swashbuckle - Back To The Noose (#5609)'
PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:49 pm 
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Swashbuckle - Back To The Noose
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Quoted: 30 / 100


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:55 pm 
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Sucks even more than the review says.
15/100


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It already has crap of the month, what else do you want? 15 would have to have even bad playing.

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Bad playing would have made it more enjoyable.


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Apparently they don't even bother dressing in the pirate gear for shows either.


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I liked their debute album act.


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The dude's vocals suck. Otherwise, not a bad band.


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Pirate metal needs to die.


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SoulSociety wrote:
Apparently they don't even bother dressing in the pirate gear for shows either.


I have unfortunately seen them live with Primordial, Moonsorrow and Korpiklaani and they do bother...they even have a tacky palm tree.

Anyways, 0/100 from me. This band is total fucking shit, and even more of a gimmick than Alestorm. I don't understand why everyone was drooling over them at Wacken this year. This band is just fucking terrible. And the question shouldn't be "isn't Alestorm enough", but rather the statement that Running Wild is the be all and end all of pirate themed metal :dio: That said, at least Alestorm can put out an occasional catchy tune and a decent show...Swashbuckle are just pure talentless bullshit.


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...Swashbuckle are just pure talentless bullshit.

That.
But, 0/100... And Frigid who thought I was being harsh with my 15/100... :lol:


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Seeing as how the scores always tend to go higher rather than lower, I thought that 30 points for being able to play and going through the hassle of recording something was potentially accurate. I'd only save under 30 scores for albums that had absolutely NOTHING to commend them.

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Errrrrr.... :unsure: Nickelback? :lol:


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FrigidSymphony wrote:
Seeing as how the scores always tend to go higher rather than lower, I thought that 30 points for being able to play and going through the hassle of recording something was potentially accurate. I'd only save under 30 scores for albums that had absolutely NOTHING to commend them.


To me being able to "play" an instrument, come up with the same shitty song over and over and record something doesn't really merit any points at all. To me, musically, they offer nothing and if we're going to give points to bands simply for taking the time to record something, even the shittiest myspace bands are "commendable". White noise would be commendable. Some bands use tape recorders to record their material and despite the means of recording the music is solid stuff...Swashbuckle should have saved the money they spent on booking a studio and recorded this release in their bathroom...would have been more fitting :wink:


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IronDuchess wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
Seeing as how the scores always tend to go higher rather than lower, I thought that 30 points for being able to play and going through the hassle of recording something was potentially accurate. I'd only save under 30 scores for albums that had absolutely NOTHING to commend them.


To me being able to "play" an instrument, come up with the same shitty song over and over and record something doesn't really merit any points at all. To me, musically, they offer nothing and if we're going to give points to bands simply for taking the time to record something, even the shittiest myspace bands are "commendable". White noise would be commendable. Some bands use tape recorders to record their material and despite the means of recording the music is solid stuff...Swashbuckle should have saved the money they spent on booking a studio and recorded this release in their bathroom...would have been more fitting :wink:


Their technique is strong, however, and it's not the easiest thing to record an album. Of course the songs are boring as fuck, but they did put effort into it and managed to make a record without any obvious fuck ups in production or playing. Which isn't easy.

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So basically, the points go to the engineer and studio team, not the band. Glad we'd settled this.


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Lucifer's Son wrote:
So basically, the points go to the engineer and studio team, not the band. Glad we'd settled this.


Yeah, pretty much. Damn, should've specified in the review itself. -.-''

Oh, and the video for Cruise Ship Terror is vaguely funny.

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For funny, I'd rather go with White Wizzard's High Speed GTO... :wink:


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FrigidSymphony wrote:
IronDuchess wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
Seeing as how the scores always tend to go higher rather than lower, I thought that 30 points for being able to play and going through the hassle of recording something was potentially accurate. I'd only save under 30 scores for albums that had absolutely NOTHING to commend them.


To me being able to "play" an instrument, come up with the same shitty song over and over and record something doesn't really merit any points at all. To me, musically, they offer nothing and if we're going to give points to bands simply for taking the time to record something, even the shittiest myspace bands are "commendable". White noise would be commendable. Some bands use tape recorders to record their material and despite the means of recording the music is solid stuff...Swashbuckle should have saved the money they spent on booking a studio and recorded this release in their bathroom...would have been more fitting :wink:


Their technique is strong, however, and it's not the easiest thing to record an album. Of course the songs are boring as fuck, but they did put effort into it and managed to make a record without any obvious fuck ups in production or playing. Which isn't easy.


So this gives them girl guide points or what? Production-wise, being such a gimmick band on a major label I wouldn't say its unexpected. To me production, while production should be discussed in a review, it shouldn't really be what determines the score one gives a review. Do you deduct points from a brilliant band, musically, because the production isn't the best? And if playing without any obvious fuck ups gives added points when the music isn't exactly the most complex nor the composition particularly skilled, I guess you guys'd better raise the the average of the Unspoken King because I think Swashbuckle just may suck greater balls musically than that masterpiece of crap. Maybe they spent time and money on producing the album, but how much time, effort and skill actually went into writing the damned thing?


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By Frigid's standards, Kenny G would get a 40/100 if he reviewed it... :rolleyes:


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IronDuchess wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
IronDuchess wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
Seeing as how the scores always tend to go higher rather than lower, I thought that 30 points for being able to play and going through the hassle of recording something was potentially accurate. I'd only save under 30 scores for albums that had absolutely NOTHING to commend them.


To me being able to "play" an instrument, come up with the same shitty song over and over and record something doesn't really merit any points at all. To me, musically, they offer nothing and if we're going to give points to bands simply for taking the time to record something, even the shittiest myspace bands are "commendable". White noise would be commendable. Some bands use tape recorders to record their material and despite the means of recording the music is solid stuff...Swashbuckle should have saved the money they spent on booking a studio and recorded this release in their bathroom...would have been more fitting :wink:


Their technique is strong, however, and it's not the easiest thing to record an album. Of course the songs are boring as fuck, but they did put effort into it and managed to make a record without any obvious fuck ups in production or playing. Which isn't easy.


So this gives them girl guide points or what? Production-wise, being such a gimmick band on a major label I wouldn't say its unexpected. To me production, while production should be discussed in a review, it shouldn't really be what determines the score one gives a review. Do you deduct points from a brilliant band, musically, because the production isn't the best? And if playing without any obvious fuck ups gives added points when the music isn't exactly the most complex nor the composition particularly skilled, I guess you guys'd better raise the the average of the Unspoken King because I think Swashbuckle just may suck greater balls musically than that masterpiece of crap. Maybe they spent time and money on producing the album, but how much time, effort and skill actually went into writing the damned thing?


Different reviewers, different interpretations of the scoring system.

I'm a stickler for production, and I imagine that all bands are involved in production to the same extent Soul's Mirror (my old band) were- i.e, we sat through every single instance of recording, mixing and mastering and worked with the producer to find the exact sound we wanted. I would give more points to a good band with good production than to a good band with bad production, just as a bad band with good production gets more points than a bad band with bad production.

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