80s Spanish metal vs 80s French Metal

Holy_Terror · **Posted:** Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:02 am

Great band that Anthracite.

DevotedWalnut · **Posted:** Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:07 am

Lucifer's Son wrote:

DevotedWalnut wrote:

both of you are ruining my fun.

I'm going to listen to some Agressor now and be content to do it all by myself.

You're so emo...Go listen to My Chemical Romance instead!

maybe I will!

Lucifer's Son · **Joined:** Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:52 pm **Posts:** 2016

stub wrote:

Lucifer's Son wrote:

stub wrote:

i actually didn't want to count in the Agressors , the Loudblasts, the Massacras and all those death thrash bands which are part of the 90s french scene(and sing in english :wink:

).

They were part of the scene all the same... I fail to see why singing in French is so important to you.
Considering that, Germany, Sweden, Norway (etc) have pretty poor scenes... :wink:

i choose the French and the Spanish scenes on purpose; because they both have that mother tongue characteristic during the 80s that gives them lots of charm. otherwise i don't care, although i have to mention french have a terrible accent in english(more than any other nation, imo)

Klaus Meine!

stub · **Posted:** Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:30 am

Lucifer's Son wrote:

stub wrote:

Lucifer's Son wrote:

stub wrote:

i actually didn't want to count in the Agressors , the Loudblasts, the Massacras and all those death thrash bands which are part of the 90s french scene(and sing in english :wink:

).

They were part of the scene all the same... I fail to see why singing in French is so important to you.
Considering that, Germany, Sweden, Norway (etc) have pretty poor scenes... :wink:

i choose the French and the Spanish scenes on purpose; because they both have that mother tongue characteristic during the 80s that gives them lots of charm. otherwise i don't care, although i have to mention french have a terrible accent in english(more than any other nation, imo)

Klaus Meine!

if half of french singers could have Klaus Meine's shitty accent in english, that would be quite an improvement...

Lucifer's Son · **Joined:** Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:52 pm **Posts:** 2016

stub wrote:

Lucifer's Son wrote:

stub wrote:

Lucifer's Son wrote:

stub wrote:

i actually didn't want to count in the Agressors , the Loudblasts, the Massacras and all those death thrash bands which are part of the 90s french scene(and sing in english :wink:

).

They were part of the scene all the same... I fail to see why singing in French is so important to you.
Considering that, Germany, Sweden, Norway (etc) have pretty poor scenes... :wink:

i choose the French and the Spanish scenes on purpose; because they both have that mother tongue characteristic during the 80s that gives them lots of charm. otherwise i don't care, although i have to mention french have a terrible accent in english(more than any other nation, imo)

Klaus Meine!

if half of french singers could have Klaus Meine's shitty accent in english, that would be quite an improvement...

True but, still, it amazes me that Scorpions made such a successful international career with a singer that has a strong german accent.

stub · **Posted:** Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:22 am

Lucifer's Son wrote:

stub wrote:

Lucifer's Son wrote:

stub wrote:

Lucifer's Son wrote:

stub wrote:

i actually didn't want to count in the Agressors , the Loudblasts, the Massacras and all those death thrash bands which are part of the 90s french scene(and sing in english :wink:

).

They were part of the scene all the same... I fail to see why singing in French is so important to you.
Considering that, Germany, Sweden, Norway (etc) have pretty poor scenes... :wink:

i choose the French and the Spanish scenes on purpose; because they both have that mother tongue characteristic during the 80s that gives them lots of charm. otherwise i don't care, although i have to mention french have a terrible accent in english(more than any other nation, imo)

Klaus Meine!

if half of french singers could have Klaus Meine's shitty accent in english, that would be quite an improvement...

True but, still, it amazes me that Scorpions made such a successful international career with a singer that has a strong german accent.

that's because his accent showed up mostly when he spoke between the songs; when he sang, it was ok.

ganeshaRules · **Posted:** Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:13 am

Spanish, of course.

But in spanish scene you must count the thrash english-singing bands like Legion, Fuck Off & Crom, and all the urban hard rock scene of Rosendo, Barricada, Extremoduro, Los Suaves...

Lucifer's Son · **Joined:** Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:52 pm **Posts:** 2016

And hair metal like Sangre Azul too? :wink:

Ho, and don't forget the heavy/folk of Ñu or Medina Azahara.

ganeshaRules · **Posted:** Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:19 am

Lucifer's Son wrote:

And hair metal like Sangre Azul too? :wink:

Ho, and don't forget the heavy/folk of Zu or Medina Azahara.

Sangre Azul or Manzano was shit, but Niagara, for example, was a good hair metal band :wink:

Lucifer's Son · **Joined:** Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:52 pm **Posts:** 2016

Corrected my previous post, it was Ñu, not Zu... :wink:

ganeshaRules · **Posted:** Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:27 am

Lucifer's Son wrote:

Corrected my previous post, it was Ñu, not Zu... :wink:

Yes, Ñu is very good, far better than Medina Azahara.

But I voted Spanish for two reasons, basically:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTH3WS_zBGg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJHAXn1j0mE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxCNRpsO0Q8

Three of my fav songs of all times.

Lucifer's Son · **Joined:** Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:52 pm **Posts:** 2016

For the record, list of spanish metal bands which have released at least one full length in the 80s :

A
*A.D.N.
*Acracia
*Angeles del Infierno
*Antidoto
*Azutena

B
*Babel
*Badana
*Banzai
*Barón Rojo
*Bella Bestia
*Bruque

C
*Crom

D
*Drama Feudal

E
*Estigia
*Evo
*Excalibur

F
*Fuck Off

G
*Goliath

K
*King Kong

L
*Legion
*Leize

M
*Manzano
*Mazo
*Mergus
*Mugre
*Muro

N
*Niagara
*Ñu

O
*Obús

P
*Panzer
*Pedro Botero
*Praxis

R
*Rigor Mortis
*Rosa Negra

S
*Sangre Azul
*Sangtrait
*Santa
*Sheilan
*Shock
*Sobredosis
*Soga
*Sparto
*Subterráneo

T
*Tarzen
*Taxi Karlo
*Tharna
*Thor
*Tigres
*Tritón

U
*Ultimos de Cuba

V
*Vade Retro

X
*Xuder Klas

Z
*Zarpa
*Zepo
*Zero
*Zeus

Holy_Terror · **Posted:** Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:48 pm

To be fair, Crom is shit. I had such high hopes for them and it ended up sucking. Two best Spanish bands are Baron Rojo and Panzer. Two best French bands Sortilege and ADX. These are my opinions.

ganeshaRules · **Posted:** Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:32 pm

Holy_Terror wrote:

To be fair, Crom is shit. I had such high hopes for them and it ended up sucking. Two best Spanish bands are Baron Rojo and Panzer. Two best French bands Sortilege and ADX. These are my opinions.

Well, I don't think is shit... is not the best group, but there were a lot of worst groups out there.

And I think Muro is better than Panzer. But we agree in Baron Rojo being the best one

The_Voice · **Posted:** Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:10 pm

Lucifer's Son wrote:

French side.
Though Baron Rojo is probably the finest band of both scenes, the French scene had Sortilège, Blasphème, Warning, Trust, Satan Jokers, and a few more... The Spanish were thus outnumbered by the French scene.

Totally agree with this.

The_Voice · **Posted:** Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:18 pm

ganeshaRules wrote:

Holy_Terror wrote:

To be fair, Crom is shit. I had such high hopes for them and it ended up sucking. Two best Spanish bands are Baron Rojo and Panzer. Two best French bands Sortilege and ADX. These are my opinions.

Well, I don't think is shit... is not the best group, but there were a lot of worst groups out there.

And I think Muro is better than Panzer. But we agree in Baron Rojo being the best one

True i also like Muro better than Panzer, in fact i think that Baron Rojo and Muro are the best acts from both scenes so for those two bands alone i would vote for the spaniards, but i agree with Stefan that the french were more prolific so thats why i vote the french.

ganeshaRules · **Posted:** Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:44 pm

The_Voice wrote:

ganeshaRules wrote:

Holy_Terror wrote:

To be fair, Crom is shit. I had such high hopes for them and it ended up sucking. Two best Spanish bands are Baron Rojo and Panzer. Two best French bands Sortilege and ADX. These are my opinions.

Well, I don't think is shit... is not the best group, but there were a lot of worst groups out there.

And I think Muro is better than Panzer. But we agree in Baron Rojo being the best one

True i also like Muro better than Panzer, in fact i think that Baron Rojo and Muro are the best acts from both scenes so for those two bands alone i would vote for the spaniards, but i agree with Stefan that the french were more prolific so thats why i vote the french.

Yeah, but I can't vote against my teen memories.

Lucifer's Son · **Joined:** Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:52 pm **Posts:** 2016

ganeshaRules wrote:

The_Voice wrote:

ganeshaRules wrote:

Holy_Terror wrote:

To be fair, Crom is shit. I had such high hopes for them and it ended up sucking. Two best Spanish bands are Baron Rojo and Panzer. Two best French bands Sortilege and ADX. These are my opinions.

Well, I don't think is shit... is not the best group, but there were a lot of worst groups out there.

And I think Muro is better than Panzer. But we agree in Baron Rojo being the best one

True i also like Muro better than Panzer, in fact i think that Baron Rojo and Muro are the best acts from both scenes so for those two bands alone i would vote for the spaniards, but i agree with Stefan that the french were more prolific so thats why i vote the french.

Yeah, but I can't vote against my teen memories.

Actually, my teen memories are both spanish and french so I'm pretty neutral on the issue.

stub · **Posted:** Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:29 pm

The_Voice wrote:

ganeshaRules wrote:

Holy_Terror wrote:

To be fair, Crom is shit. I had such high hopes for them and it ended up sucking. Two best Spanish bands are Baron Rojo and Panzer. Two best French bands Sortilege and ADX. These are my opinions.

Well, I don't think is shit... is not the best group, but there were a lot of worst groups out there.

And I think Muro is better than Panzer. But we agree in Baron Rojo being the best one

True i also like Muro better than Panzer, in fact i think that Baron Rojo and Muro are the best acts from both scenes so for those two bands alone i would vote for the spaniards, but i agree with Stefan that the french were more prolific so thats why i vote the french.

Muro are really kick ass, but there's no way they're better than ADX...at least imo.

Holy_Terror · **Posted:** Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:29 pm

I think Baron Rojo alone is enough to carry the Spanish through to Victory. It's a close call because I might love Sortilege just as much.....but I have to give it to BR because those first four Baron Rojo albums are amongst the best albums in heavy metal history. Sortilege only has three recordings that I absolutely love, but I would not place them in as best all time. Larga vida al Baron!

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