Metal Reviews

Yes it was.

Not any moreso than any other genre of music. It was bands taking sounds that influenced them and making music.

Yeah. Dude. That's exactly what I've been arguing with Legacy for like the last 10 posts.

But, superfluous nature of your comments aside, you are 100% correct.

Sorry Noodles, but like I said to Legacy, the word "progressive" wasn't chosen arbitrarily. It meant something once.

Actually I think it was pretty much arbitrary. It could just as easily be called intelligent rock, a la IDM/intelligent dance music, and we wouldn't have this problem.

Dude, I know Rush well, and by no means was dissing them. Every single album Rush has made has some sort of progginess on it, barring the debut. The sentence I highlighted could apply well to 2112, for instance, precisely because it's a brutal summary that is completely unfair... You're sticking too closely to the rigid definition of prog, as everyone else bar Stefano is saying. Stick, ass, remove.

Nothing wrong with knowing what progressive really is. And it's not because we're a minority knowing what it really is (here anyway, but what else can we expect from a bunch of post-adolescent metalheads?) that we're wrong.

Progressive music and Prog Rock/Metal are two different things. Progressive music pushes the boundaries yabba dabba doo, and Prog Rock is Rock with Prog, a la later Rush or C&C or Prog Metal like Opeth or whoever. We're all going in circles.

Progressive rock is the roots of modern progressive music, Zad. Modern prog rock is nothing but copycats of the Greal Old Ones, more like Regressive Rock. As for Prog Metal, most of it is just shite metal with too much ambition for its own good.

I'm not dissing music what are progressive, or the Greal Old Ones. Stop being obnoxious.

Am I being obnoxious while you, intervening in just about every argument there is on the forum is not... Zad, now you're al real bitch. Fuck you.

Dude, come on now, it's a forum. Not only do I not post in every argument there is, but if I wanted to I'd have the perfect right. Stick. Ass. Remove.

And I am obnoxious?
You can be a pompous son of a bitch sometimes, Zad. In fact, you're being one right now. Do me a favour, ignore me and I'll do the same.

Jesus. You're first with the 'fuck-you's but it's all my fault, is it? Back on topic.

Of course Lucy, bands like Opeth, Symphony X and Dream Theater are shite, so any real fan of music would run a mile. Fuck off. Personally I hate a lot of the artsy 70s prog stuff like King Crimson, I find it to be annoying like a lot of music released pre- Black Sabbath. But to each his own. If band is labelled prog nowadays, it means that they are writing songs which are different to the normal song structure, normally being much longer and having different time signatures and the like with many different riffs and interludes. Personally I just see it as another genre, like black, death, goth and trad metal.

That said, I agree with noodle's opinion on a lot of these older bands, and respect for the great Jethro Tull, a rock band capable of metal- like epicness.

Yes, I consider Symphony X, Dream Theater and their likes to be pompous annoyances that call itself prog and display their technicity in long songs just to hide their poor songwriting abilities resulting in a complete incapacity to actually write a good SONG (except when they do some Muse or U2 plagiarism in the case of DT). Opeth, like many other prog-labeled "extreme" metal, is a different matter and, if I'm not a big fan of their kind of music I sometimes enjoy blasting it through the speakers. They are good musicians that are trying something different to enrich their music and I respect them.
And... Pre-Black Sabbath? You just lost what little credibility you had left and displayed your complete ignorance of Rock history... You're obviously too damn stuck on metal so I'd better leave it here.

Just wanted to say something real quick to anyone who thinks I overquoted this album, and then I'll leave.

Coheed & Cambria has been one of my favorite bands since I was twelve years old. This was about the time when I first started getting into rock music, and they were one of the first bands I discovered in the modern rock scene. They almost instantly became my favorite band of the time, and listening to them on a daily basis really influenced my musical tastes for years to come. If it weren't for them, I would never have picked up a guitar, I probably wouldn't even like metal, and I certainly wouldn't be here writing for Metalreviews today. Sure, if I started listening to them today, I'd think they are "Okay", but it's because they have such a special place in my heart and my musical journey that I enjoy them much more than I probably should.

Besides. It's my review, I can quote it whatever I want, regardless if you disagree.

That is all.

Love this album!

So do I!

Sorta like prog rock.



imo this is best because trying to use it as a general term for music that is boundary pushing is confusing and pretentious.

I always just thought Prog Rock got its roots as Rock bands taking influence from Jazz and Classical music instead of all of this "striving to break down barriers of Pop music traditions" stuff.

Shows how much I know, right?