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I think even black metal bands are starting to realize it sucks which is why there's so many modern dudes like Negura Bunget and Urfaust who spend like half their time playing not-black metal.


More bullshit.
They spend the other half of their time playing Black metal...
perhaps, maybe, just possibly there is an off chance that these guys have interest in more than one style of music.... is that possible? Maybe, just maybe the possibility that *!!shock!!* a musician is interested in exploring different horizons exists.
Does that mean that they have come to the conclusion that the music they make, namely Black Metal, sucks?

Try thinking before you post next time.

I mean, Paramore!?! Jesus fucking Christ...

GTFO.


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Yeah I do I just don't have much tolerance for singers I don't like anymore, so that cuts down what metal I can listen to by a lot.


Fortunately you've been discovering bands with really cool vocals recently, like these dudes

http://www.myspace.com/tstband


Say what you want about the band that band pic is one of the funniest I have ever seen :lol:


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cry of the banshee wrote:
noodles wrote:
I think even black metal bands are starting to realize it sucks which is why there's so many modern dudes like Negura Bunget and Urfaust who spend like half their time playing not-black metal.


More bullshit.
They spend the other half of their time playing Black metal...
perhaps, maybe, just possibly there is an off chance that these guys have interest in more than one style of music.... is that possible? Maybe, just maybe the possibility that *!!shock!!* a musician is interested in exploring different horizons exists.
Does that mean that they have come to the conclusion that the music they make, namely Black Metal, sucks?

Try thinking before you post next time.

I mean, Paramore!?! Jesus fucking Christ...

GTFO.

My explanation, that black metal is as boring to make as it is to listen to, is way more likely. Also just because you're too closed-minded to appreciate music marketed towards teenage girls is no reason to insult my taste in music.


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noodles wrote:
cry of the banshee wrote:
noodles wrote:
I think even black metal bands are starting to realize it sucks which is why there's so many modern dudes like Negura Bunget and Urfaust who spend like half their time playing not-black metal.


More bullshit.
They spend the other half of their time playing Black metal...
perhaps, maybe, just possibly there is an off chance that these guys have interest in more than one style of music.... is that possible? Maybe, just maybe the possibility that *!!shock!!* a musician is interested in exploring different horizons exists.
Does that mean that they have come to the conclusion that the music they make, namely Black Metal, sucks?

Try thinking before you post next time.

I mean, Paramore!?! Jesus fucking Christ...

GTFO.

... appreciate music marketed towards teenage girls.


Says it all, right there.


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You're all wrong. Too much stupid black metal, and too much generic power metal. For some reason there is this idea that only new music can be reviewed....this will explain the oversaturation of crap music that permeates the reviews here. Just because its new and from a high profile genre like Black or power metal...doesnt mean that its good, or that it has to be reviewed. I've been a huge proponent of making the classics section be more of a focal point. Not only is the quality of music far greater, but the supply is nearly endless.

There's a new power metal or black metal band out every week with major label support. Do we really need the reviews to be dominated by this material?? Now before someone attacks me for this, I do recognize a conscious effort to vary the music reviewed, but despite these sentiments the overwhelming majority of the reviews are of both black metal (and its various sub-genres), and stupid power metal bands.

I reiterate my view that the classics section should receive more attention as reviewing time honored material will be far more useful to the average metal head then reviewing every symphonic black metal band that has a Tolkien name, or every Finnish Symphonic power metal band with a female vocalist. Peh! If the goal of this site is to spread the message of metal, then perhaps it would not be so bad to spend more time looking backwards....as looking forwards is becoming inadequate.


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I was facepalming from the moment that you said that Black Metal was a high profile genre. Seriously, not all BM has major label support, nor is all Power Metal Finnish, nor are those the only two genres that get reviewed... Death Metal, hello? Prog? Folk? Just because YOU don't like a band, doesn't mean the site has to switch over to obscureheavymetalfrom the80sreviews.com


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Really??? Black Metal is not a high profile genre?? That is complete and utter nonsense. If you were to take a poll of all metal bands on the planet, as ridiculous as that sounds, the overwhelming majority would be grindcore death metal, and retarded black metal. Why, your silly little mind may ask??? Because what once was the cultest and most underground genre, has become insanely popular, coupled with the fact that anyone can strum an un-tuned guitar with a fuzz box on it and sing like they are in pain, it has become oversaturated. All the little underground fan boys who I see hugging Fenriz's nutsack on the Darkthrone forum, and all the Hot Topic boyz who worship Varg, will buy anything that has a logo that looks like its bleeding. This site is guilty of it too, and you're right, I did leave out Melodeth, which is another appallingly stupid genre that is reviewed to no end.

I may enjoy obscure 80's bands more than the bands I've mentioned above, but I've never advocated doing exclusively obscure metal bands. In fact, I've suggested quite the opposite. I've been calling for classic metal reviews....I don't know how an obscure band can become classic. Some may point to the Satan review as evidence of this, but, at the time Satan were hugely popular and influential. So I'm not calling for people to only listen to bands they've never heard of before, all I'm saying is there is more value in looking to the past to discover bands that were spawned in the midst of metal's zenith, than in listening to new bands that have nothing to offer.

the classics are classics for a reason, and just because some groups are more recognized than others, should not deter you from giving them your attention.

Again, I need to clarify for all of you small brains out there. I am not saying what you all think I've trademarked, that we should only listen to obscure 80's bands....this is not true....I'm merely saying we should listen to more of them :D.


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Really??? Black Metal is not a high profile genre?? That is complete and utter nonsense. If you were to take a poll of all metal bands on the planet, as ridiculous as that sounds, the overwhelming majority would be grindcore death metal, and retarded black metal. Why, your silly little mind may ask??? Because what once was the cultest and most underground genre, has become insanely popular, coupled with the fact that anyone can strum an un-tuned guitar with a fuzz box on it and sing like they are in pain, it has become oversaturated. All the little underground fan boys who I see hugging Fenriz's nutsack on the Darkthrone forum, and all the Hot Topic boyz who worship Varg, will buy anything that has a logo that looks like its bleeding. This site is guilty of it too, and you're right, I did leave out Melodeth, which is another appallingly stupid genre that is reviewed to no end.

I may enjoy obscure 80's bands more than the bands I've mentioned above, but I've never advocated doing exclusively obscure metal bands. In fact, I've suggested quite the opposite. I've been calling for classic metal reviews....I don't know how an obscure band can become classic. Some may point to the Satan review as evidence of this, but, at the time Satan were hugely popular and influential. So I'm not calling for people to only listen to bands they've never heard of before, all I'm saying is there is more value in looking to the past to discover bands that were spawned in the midst of metal's zenith, than in listening to new bands that have nothing to offer.

the classics are classics for a reason, and just because some groups are more recognized than others, should not deter you from giving them your attention.

Again, I need to clarify for all of you small brains out there. I am not saying what you all think I've trademarked, that we should only listen to obscure 80's bands....this is not true....I'm merely saying we should listen to more of them :D.


We may have our differences, but this post... :dio:


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Why all the moaning and whining? Seriously, if people wannna read more BM or PM... then search the net for god's sake. If not, stay on board, read the reviews and enjoy having each genre well covered by good writers. :cool:


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Really??? Black Metal is not a high profile genre?? That is complete and utter nonsense. If you were to take a poll of all metal bands on the planet, as ridiculous as that sounds, the overwhelming majority would be grindcore death metal, and retarded black metal. Why, your silly little mind may ask??? Because what once was the cultest and most underground genre, has become insanely popular, coupled with the fact that anyone can strum an un-tuned guitar with a fuzz box on it and sing like they are in pain, it has become oversaturated. All the little underground fan boys who I see hugging Fenriz's nutsack on the Darkthrone forum, and all the Hot Topic boyz who worship Varg, will buy anything that has a logo that looks like its bleeding. This site is guilty of it too, and you're right, I did leave out Melodeth, which is another appallingly stupid genre that is reviewed to no end.

I may enjoy obscure 80's bands more than the bands I've mentioned above, but I've never advocated doing exclusively obscure metal bands. In fact, I've suggested quite the opposite. I've been calling for classic metal reviews....I don't know how an obscure band can become classic. Some may point to the Satan review as evidence of this, but, at the time Satan were hugely popular and influential. So I'm not calling for people to only listen to bands they've never heard of before, all I'm saying is there is more value in looking to the past to discover bands that were spawned in the midst of metal's zenith, than in listening to new bands that have nothing to offer.

the classics are classics for a reason, and just because some groups are more recognized than others, should not deter you from giving them your attention.

Again, I need to clarify for all of you small brains out there. I am not saying what you all think I've trademarked, that we should only listen to obscure 80's bands....this is not true....I'm merely saying we should listen to more of them :D.


We may have our differences, but this post... :dio:


Oh yeah, +1 there... I bet the goat is itching his head how to not sound like a douche in his next post. :P


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Holy_Terror wrote:
Really??? Black Metal is not a high profile genre?? That is complete and utter nonsense. If you were to take a poll of all metal bands on the planet, as ridiculous as that sounds, the overwhelming majority would be grindcore death metal, and retarded black metal. Why, your silly little mind may ask??? Because what once was the cultest and most underground genre, has become insanely popular, coupled with the fact that anyone can strum an un-tuned guitar with a fuzz box on it and sing like they are in pain, it has become oversaturated. All the little underground fan boys who I see hugging Fenriz's nutsack on the Darkthrone forum, and all the Hot Topic boyz who worship Varg, will buy anything that has a logo that looks like its bleeding. This site is guilty of it too, and you're right, I did leave out Melodeth, which is another appallingly stupid genre that is reviewed to no end.

I may enjoy obscure 80's bands more than the bands I've mentioned above, but I've never advocated doing exclusively obscure metal bands. In fact, I've suggested quite the opposite. I've been calling for classic metal reviews....I don't know how an obscure band can become classic. Some may point to the Satan review as evidence of this, but, at the time Satan were hugely popular and influential. So I'm not calling for people to only listen to bands they've never heard of before, all I'm saying is there is more value in looking to the past to discover bands that were spawned in the midst of metal's zenith, than in listening to new bands that have nothing to offer.

the classics are classics for a reason, and just because some groups are more recognized than others, should not deter you from giving them your attention.

Again, I need to clarify for all of you small brains out there. I am not saying what you all think I've trademarked, that we should only listen to obscure 80's bands....this is not true....I'm merely saying we should listen to more of them :D.


A lot of modern Black metal sucks, true. But a good amount of it is killer, as well.
But what in the hell does that have to do with Darkthrone or Burzum?
It's no secret that I am one of the biggest advocates of 80's Metal, but the first four Darkthrone albums are no less pure metal than anything from the 80's. In fact one of the things about the second wave was how pure it was, and why their are so many purists that listen to black metal. Their are still honest black metal artists, is it their fault that so many ride on their coat-tails?
Dude, a lot of the bands that you list from days of yore are not as good as you try to make them out to be, and yes I've fucking heard them, in their time, not posthumously.

Bah, I'll take me some Darkthrone over some wimpy assed Satan or Crimson Gloryany day of the fucking week.


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Why all the moaning and whining? Seriously, if people wannna read more BM or PM... then search the net for god's sake. If not, stay on board, read the reviews and enjoy having each genre well covered by good writers. :cool:


+1 on that.

SERIOUSLY everybody. ok. I thought there were too many black metal reviews this week too. BUT WHATEVER IT'S A FUCKING METAL SITE there will be new reviews next week.


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DevotedWalnut wrote:
Holy_Terror wrote:
Really??? Black Metal is not a high profile genre?? That is complete and utter nonsense. If you were to take a poll of all metal bands on the planet, as ridiculous as that sounds, the overwhelming majority would be grindcore death metal, and retarded black metal. Why, your silly little mind may ask??? Because what once was the cultest and most underground genre, has become insanely popular, coupled with the fact that anyone can strum an un-tuned guitar with a fuzz box on it and sing like they are in pain, it has become oversaturated. All the little underground fan boys who I see hugging Fenriz's nutsack on the Darkthrone forum, and all the Hot Topic boyz who worship Varg, will buy anything that has a logo that looks like its bleeding. This site is guilty of it too, and you're right, I did leave out Melodeth, which is another appallingly stupid genre that is reviewed to no end.

I may enjoy obscure 80's bands more than the bands I've mentioned above, but I've never advocated doing exclusively obscure metal bands. In fact, I've suggested quite the opposite. I've been calling for classic metal reviews....I don't know how an obscure band can become classic. Some may point to the Satan review as evidence of this, but, at the time Satan were hugely popular and influential. So I'm not calling for people to only listen to bands they've never heard of before, all I'm saying is there is more value in looking to the past to discover bands that were spawned in the midst of metal's zenith, than in listening to new bands that have nothing to offer.

the classics are classics for a reason, and just because some groups are more recognized than others, should not deter you from giving them your attention.

Again, I need to clarify for all of you small brains out there. I am not saying what you all think I've trademarked, that we should only listen to obscure 80's bands....this is not true....I'm merely saying we should listen to more of them :D.


We may have our differences, but this post... :dio:


Oh yeah, +1 there... I bet the goat is itching his head how to not sound like a douche in his next post. :P


Haha, because coming after you sounding like a douche is fucking impossible.

Holy T, I'm not speaking about Dimmu Borgir when I speak of Black Metal, I'm speaking of the underground, and that is NOT a popular genre compared to shitty deathcore and cloned power metal. Just because you've come across a few internet warriors doesn't mean that BM is suddenly what's filling the Hot Topics, and your nonsense about how Black Metal is suddenly the new Nu Metal is just that, pure bollocks.

As for your tastes, yes, at the time (whatever fucking time that was) Satan may have been popular, but these days they're not. People wanting to check those sorts of bands out can, there are plenty of archive spots filled with the classics, and again, just because we don't fit up to your personal fucking idea of what's good doesn't mean your way's not the highway, chuck. What's popular these days? All this true metal shit, hence getting the likes of Alestorm and Steel Panther on the sales charts, because the 80s are more popular now than before.


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I just can't get over the fact that he suggested that kids who go to Hot Topic listen to Burzum. That's just downright absurd.


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AngelRipper16 wrote:
DevotedWalnut wrote:
Holy_Terror wrote:
Really??? Black Metal is not a high profile genre?? That is complete and utter nonsense. If you were to take a poll of all metal bands on the planet, as ridiculous as that sounds, the overwhelming majority would be grindcore death metal, and retarded black metal. Why, your silly little mind may ask??? Because what once was the cultest and most underground genre, has become insanely popular, coupled with the fact that anyone can strum an un-tuned guitar with a fuzz box on it and sing like they are in pain, it has become oversaturated. All the little underground fan boys who I see hugging Fenriz's nutsack on the Darkthrone forum, and all the Hot Topic boyz who worship Varg, will buy anything that has a logo that looks like its bleeding. This site is guilty of it too, and you're right, I did leave out Melodeth, which is another appallingly stupid genre that is reviewed to no end.

I may enjoy obscure 80's bands more than the bands I've mentioned above, but I've never advocated doing exclusively obscure metal bands. In fact, I've suggested quite the opposite. I've been calling for classic metal reviews....I don't know how an obscure band can become classic. Some may point to the Satan review as evidence of this, but, at the time Satan were hugely popular and influential. So I'm not calling for people to only listen to bands they've never heard of before, all I'm saying is there is more value in looking to the past to discover bands that were spawned in the midst of metal's zenith, than in listening to new bands that have nothing to offer.

the classics are classics for a reason, and just because some groups are more recognized than others, should not deter you from giving them your attention.

Again, I need to clarify for all of you small brains out there. I am not saying what you all think I've trademarked, that we should only listen to obscure 80's bands....this is not true....I'm merely saying we should listen to more of them :D.


We may have our differences, but this post... :dio:


Oh yeah, +1 there... I bet the goat is itching his head how to not sound like a douche in his next post. :P


Haha, because coming after you sounding like a douche is fucking impossible.

Holy T, I'm not speaking about Dimmu Borgir when I speak of Black Metal, I'm speaking of the underground, and that is NOT a popular genre compared to shitty deathcore and cloned power metal. Just because you've come across a few internet warriors doesn't mean that BM is suddenly what's filling the Hot Topics, and your nonsense about how Black Metal is suddenly the new Nu Metal is just that, pure bollocks.

As for your tastes, yes, at the time (whatever fucking time that was) Satan may have been popular, but these days they're not. People wanting to check those sorts of bands out can, there are plenty of archive spots filled with the classics, and again, just because we don't fit up to your personal fucking idea of what's good doesn't mean your way's not the highway, chuck. What's popular these days? All this true metal shit, hence getting the likes of Alestorm and Steel Panther on the sales charts, because the 80s are more popular now than before.


I was perusing through the one in Yuma the other day and came across the new Funeral Mist, some Dark Funeral, and a Burzum anthology. The guy at the counter told me they recently sold out of Peste Noire and Black Witchery. I don't think he's right on calling it the nu-metal of today, but you might need to recheck your statement when you see Hottopic's filling up with more black metal releases.


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80's metal is still cool but so is modern euro metal. How can you not like bands like Kamelot,Startovarius,Amon Amarth,Gamma Ray and a few other bands anyway.


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You just have to like cheese...
Anyway, there's no metal like 80s metal.


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I just can't get over the fact that he suggested that kids who go to Hot Topic listen to Burzum. That's just downright absurd.


There's a Hot Topic-ish store here that sells Burzum shirts.


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I just can't get over the fact that he suggested that kids who go to Hot Topic listen to Burzum. That's just downright absurd.


There's a Hot Topic-ish store here that sells Burzum shirts.


Hot Topic-ish is not Hot Topic. There's an indie pop-culture store where I bought a Neurosis and Faith No More shirt. You'd never find those in Hot Topic.


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