Metal Reviews

Is it my fault you didn't make that clear? And you know damn well that I agree with you, but you also know that posting what you did was a dick move. He's not, if he was would that make him a valid target? FFS, learn a bit of tact before you open your mouth.

Then if he's not, what part of that offends you?

In response to your saying 'I hereby tone down the fuck Zionism stuff' I post a very reasonable response insomuch as it reminds you of modern Zionisms' consequences; note that I am not asserting that you have forgotten them, but rather de-emphasized them in response to your brothers apparent Zionism (assumption). Said picture clearly aroused some form of feeling within you, seeing as you began lashing out like the aforementioned developmentally-disabled clown shortly thereafter.

what bit of tact must I learn, not to post pictures that might offend your sensibilities?

you know, because clearly in posting an injury that was the result of the Gaza War, I was hinting at (pick one)
A) your brother should die
B) your brother should be burned
C) your brother is evil
D) whatever other nonsense you want to assume I am saying by the posting of a picture

you have been quite irked at me since our argument which terminated on page 61 of this thread; I have a number of theories as to the origin of this but no definite proof for any.

in short: calm the fuck down, chief.

I haven't spoken to you since page 61, so how can I have been irked 'ever since'? Maybe I did overreact a little. Yet posting pictures of dead people in response to someone mentioning a trip to Israel is as unamusing as 9/11 jokes if you met, say, Mike Portnoy. Besides which, it weren't safe for work, and plenty of other forums would have banned you for that. You honestly think I need reminding of modern Zionism's consequences, ffs, how patronising can you get?

The problem with saying "well, we should be satisfied with what's happening because the guy in charge is only a centrist anyway" is that it totally releases any pressure on the centre to do anything outside of the moderate consensus. So, talking about a less shady foreign policy, but continual weaken the moves you are taking towards it... liberals get someone they like personally and conservatives needn't worry about what's actually going on. So, everybody wins.

We were talking about why "the left" has fallen apart so; well, partly I would say it is because influential people on the principled centre-left have said "if you can't beat em, join, em", and started offering really weak policies that people vote for anyway because they're better than the alternative.

I mean, that's ok, in a way, but unless we (I mean the left-leaning populace generally, not the three of us that post regularly in the politics thread) keep up the pressure then sod all will happen.

Oh, true. This is the same discussion we always have, and I don't mean to take any pressure off Obama. You can't just blame the centrists, though, considering... has the SWP helped to form the New Left Alliance yet?

Haven't heard anything, but then I haven't been in contact with SWP at all for a while. I think they may have given up on me since I chose going to Derby for my birthday bbq fun over going to London for Marxism Fest 2009, with which it tragically coincided.

Sellout.

I've never been to Marxism fest as circumstances alwayus conspire... couple of years ago I broke my foot, for example.

It's actually really cool though, by the looks of the schedule. Tony Benn invariably gives a lecture, this year had a big debate between Zizek and Callinicos, which sounded like good times. Plus, they always have top quality gigs from Britain's premier socialist jazz musicians.

quite frankly, I didn't, but the chance to post was there and I took it.

Perhaps it was altogether inappropriate, but quite frankly, there's never any reason to tone down condemnation of zionism. My entire family are zionists aside from my father. It doesn't mean I wish they were dead, but it does mean that the issue is in the forefront of the mind quite frequently.

You have a Marxism-fest in Britain? There's some kind of Socialist Conference in america, but it's always in Chicago or some shit.

We do; if you're curious you can read all about it here (pdf)

http://www.marxismfestival.org.uk/2009/ ... e29Jun.pdf

But, like I said, I always end up missing it.

Oh I got giggly excited about a Marxism fest.

short summary of the most 'left' healthcare proposal, the one authored by Waxman and Rangel and their congressional committee:

1. mandate for all individuals to purchase health insurance from private insurers, subsidies up to a certain percentage of poverty level
2. no caps on premiums whatsoever
3. tax hike on the rich + massive, massive cuts in medicare/medicaid to pay for it

can one of you UK folk give me British citizenship with your magical Limey powers?

Sorry, they can only be used for dry humour and football hooliganism. Anything else, the Queen comes round to give you hassle.

So tell me more about this Healthy San Francisco healthcare thing, someone.

http://www.tangle.com/view_video?viewke ... f76a22b312

This is what the kids in Palestine are watching.

I wonder why religious extremists would rise to the forefront in a culture of oppressed, victimized people!

It couldn't be because the second-largest party in the PA is full of quislings, could it? People couldn't have co nsidered carefully their votes for Hamas because of their legitimate advantages over Fatah, such as fair administration and charitable work, while weighing carefully the disadvantages, could they?

hell, it couldn't be that our own media is full of similar propaganda, could it? It couldn't possibly be that for the most part, our entire culture is based around promoting divine myths of American exceptionalism and the glories of American-style capitalism, could it?

Naaaaah



I would agree with this, but looking at the Political Compass as a tool to see where one stands, it does in fact do an admirable job of representing people's full views on subjects.

Besides, it's a graph. I don't think it's in particular stating that this attitude is inherently perpendicular to this attitude- by that logic, it's saying the same thing about authoritarian attitudes and economic neoliberalism.

Well, I don't live in the States, so I don't get capitalist endorsements on tv. I get milk and sausage commercials.

be that as it may, the media culture of all western countries are centered around promoting capitalism and western myth.

Equating TV adverts for sausages and Palestinian antisemetic propaganda aimed at children is crazy.

yes, because my post specifically stated that sausage advertisements are equitable to antisemitic propaganda aimed at children

after all, frigidsymphony watches the Sausage Advertisement Channel, so he doesn't watch anything else.