Christianity Against FULL METAL RACKET And ROTTING CHRIST (#2131)

Cú Chulainn · **Posted:** Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:45 pm

Here it's easy to start working but tough to continue studying, meaning that the schools have harsher criteria for acceptance than the employers have, NOT that it's inherently harder to study than it is to work.

rio · **Posted:** Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:47 pm

Metalhead_Bastard wrote:

FrigidSymphony wrote:

Metalhead_Bastard wrote:

FrigidSymphony wrote:

Why should learning maths be limited to childhood? I'm all for giving people all the opportunities possible, whether children or adults, to learn, educate themselves and so on. As it is now, a doctor earns more because the process of becoming a doctor was a lot more grueling than the process of becoming a construction worker. Not to say that construction workers don't deserve our respect and all that, but if someone was too lazy to study then they shouldn't complain about manual labour. Of course, in my ideal society, everyone would be able to educate themselves, and it would only be the people who chose not to or were too lazy who get left below.

What? I think you've spent too much time on the internet mate, too 'lazy' to study? What? Being a construction worker is probably harder and less rewarding than being a student.

I get the feeling that the comments you make are made because you look down upon people who aren't as talented at academic thngs as you.

No that's not really what I mean. I have a lot of friends who began working at 16 because they couldn't be arsed to continue studying. It's a kind of general short-sightedness that I consider lazy to some extent. The work itself is tiring, I know that. I'd hate to be a construction worker. I couldn't stand it. I don't look down on un-academic people, I just think that people who reject opportunities are making a mistake.

Well where I am people study to put off working because they're lazy.

Damn, ain't that the truth.

Personally I think society would be better off if people went to university later in their lives. People (myself at that age included) often just see uni as an excuse to doss about for three more years after leaving school. But actually, education is a real privilege and a great thing to have... I don't think that's appreciated until someone has experienced the "real world".

Metalhead_Bastard · **Posted:** Fri May 01, 2009 12:11 am

rio wrote:

Metalhead_Bastard wrote:

FrigidSymphony wrote:

Metalhead_Bastard wrote:

FrigidSymphony wrote:

Why should learning maths be limited to childhood? I'm all for giving people all the opportunities possible, whether children or adults, to learn, educate themselves and so on. As it is now, a doctor earns more because the process of becoming a doctor was a lot more grueling than the process of becoming a construction worker. Not to say that construction workers don't deserve our respect and all that, but if someone was too lazy to study then they shouldn't complain about manual labour. Of course, in my ideal society, everyone would be able to educate themselves, and it would only be the people who chose not to or were too lazy who get left below.

What? I think you've spent too much time on the internet mate, too 'lazy' to study? What? Being a construction worker is probably harder and less rewarding than being a student.

I get the feeling that the comments you make are made because you look down upon people who aren't as talented at academic thngs as you.

No that's not really what I mean. I have a lot of friends who began working at 16 because they couldn't be arsed to continue studying. It's a kind of general short-sightedness that I consider lazy to some extent. The work itself is tiring, I know that. I'd hate to be a construction worker. I couldn't stand it. I don't look down on un-academic people, I just think that people who reject opportunities are making a mistake.

Well where I am people study to put off working because they're lazy.

Damn, ain't that the truth.

Personally I think society would be better off if people went to university later in their lives. People (myself at that age included) often just see uni as an excuse to doss about for three more years after leaving school. But actually, education is a real privilege and a great thing to have... I don't think that's appreciated until someone has experienced the "real world".

I've noticed the older people at Uni try harder...

Seinfeld26 · **Posted:** Fri May 01, 2009 2:28 am

rio wrote:

Metalhead_Bastard wrote:

FrigidSymphony wrote:

Metalhead_Bastard wrote:

FrigidSymphony wrote:

Why should learning maths be limited to childhood? I'm all for giving people all the opportunities possible, whether children or adults, to learn, educate themselves and so on. As it is now, a doctor earns more because the process of becoming a doctor was a lot more grueling than the process of becoming a construction worker. Not to say that construction workers don't deserve our respect and all that, but if someone was too lazy to study then they shouldn't complain about manual labour. Of course, in my ideal society, everyone would be able to educate themselves, and it would only be the people who chose not to or were too lazy who get left below.

What? I think you've spent too much time on the internet mate, too 'lazy' to study? What? Being a construction worker is probably harder and less rewarding than being a student.

I get the feeling that the comments you make are made because you look down upon people who aren't as talented at academic thngs as you.

No that's not really what I mean. I have a lot of friends who began working at 16 because they couldn't be arsed to continue studying. It's a kind of general short-sightedness that I consider lazy to some extent. The work itself is tiring, I know that. I'd hate to be a construction worker. I couldn't stand it. I don't look down on un-academic people, I just think that people who reject opportunities are making a mistake.

Well where I am people study to put off working because they're lazy.

Damn, ain't that the truth.

Personally I think society would be better off if people went to university later in their lives. People (myself at that age included) often just see uni as an excuse to doss about for three more years after leaving school. But actually, education is a real privilege and a great thing to have... I don't think that's appreciated until someone has experienced the "real world".

Sadly, I have to witness that sort of thing everytime I'm on campus. In fact, I once saw somebody get interviewed by the police for disruptive behavior in the Library. You would think that, by college age, people would be taking their education more seriously (after all, isn't High School supposed to be the "big transition period" for most?). But I guess many of them don't. It's embarassing, really.

traptunderice · **Posted:** Fri May 01, 2009 3:45 am

Dead Machine wrote:

The duty of the perfect society is to correct the wrongs that nature has wrought upon us.

Quoted for truthery.

stevelovesmoonspell · **Posted:** Sat May 02, 2009 12:52 am

traptunderice wrote:

Dead Machine wrote:

The duty of the perfect society is to correct the wrongs that nature has wrought upon us.

Quoted for truthery.

doesn't sound possible.

Dead Machine · **Joined:** Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:24 pm **Posts:** 2527

stevelovesmoonspell wrote:

traptunderice wrote:

Dead Machine wrote:

The duty of the perfect society is to correct the wrongs that nature has wrought upon us.

Quoted for truthery.

doesn't sound possible.

self-fulfilling prophecy.

traptunderice · **Posted:** Sat May 02, 2009 3:41 am

stevelovesmoonspell wrote:

traptunderice wrote:

Dead Machine wrote:

The duty of the perfect society is to correct the wrongs that nature has wrought upon us.

Quoted for truthery.

doesn't sound possible.

When you have an attitude like that and a society propagates that attitude, of course, you can't see it being possible.

SoulSociety · **Posted:** Mon May 04, 2009 11:04 am

Holy crap, it took a while to read all the posts, and I just wanted to put in my 2 cents. TBH, I thought DM had the Soviet flag as an avatar because it looks cool. :lol:

After reading that whole debate thing, even though we don't agree on some things musically, I wholeheartedly agree with Frigid's thoughts on religion and I have to say: much respect.

As for one more opinion on the religion thing (though I don't want to drag it out), I think that people believe and have faith because even more than all the aspects of the universe that we cannot explain, it is because when people die, they find it unacceptable that when they die, there is no afterlife and no continuation of their consciousness.

Seinfeld26 · **Posted:** Tue May 05, 2009 2:25 am

SoulSociety wrote:

Holy crap, it took a while to read all the posts, and I just wanted to put in my 2 cents. TBH, I thought DM had the Soviet flag as an avatar because it looks cool. :lol:

After reading that whole debate thing, even though we don't agree on some things musically, I wholeheartedly agree with Frigid's thoughts on religion and I have to say: much respect.

As for one more opinion on the religion thing (though I don't want to drag it out), I think that people believe and have faith because even more than all the aspects of the universe that we cannot explain, it is because when people die, they find it unacceptable that when they die, there is no afterlife and no continuation of their consciousness.

Not to stir up debate, either. But two things:

a) Not everybody who believes in God or even follows a particular religion necessarily believes in an afterlife. With some religions, such as Christianity, such a belief is manditory. But there are others (including many Jewish denominations) that don't require it.

b) One could just as easily make the argument that many atheists are atheists because they're hoping that science will eventually allow us to overcome death (I think Descartes once suggested that this might be the ultimate reason why a lot of scientists are atheists - when you dig beyond the "logical barriers", politics, etc.). Everybody fears death, regardless of religious belief.

Just sayin'. :wink:

Dead Machine · **Joined:** Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:24 pm **Posts:** 2527

SoulSociety wrote:

Holy crap, it took a while to read all the posts, and I just wanted to put in my 2 cents. TBH, I thought DM had the Soviet flag as an avatar because it looks cool. :lol:

that's not the soviet flag, it's the hammer & sickle.

The soviet flag is a solid red flag with a hammer & sickle symbol in the upper left corner, and there's a yellow star above it.

SoulSociety · **Posted:** Sun May 10, 2009 6:11 pm

Dead Machine wrote:

SoulSociety wrote:

Holy crap, it took a while to read all the posts, and I just wanted to put in my 2 cents. TBH, I thought DM had the Soviet flag as an avatar because it looks cool. :lol:

that's not the soviet flag, it's the hammer & sickle.

The soviet flag is a solid red flag with a hammer & sickle symbol in the upper left corner, and there's a yellow star above it.

Jesus, anal mood?

SoulSociety · **Posted:** Sun May 10, 2009 6:13 pm

Seinfeld26 wrote:

SoulSociety wrote:

Holy crap, it took a while to read all the posts, and I just wanted to put in my 2 cents. TBH, I thought DM had the Soviet flag as an avatar because it looks cool. :lol:

After reading that whole debate thing, even though we don't agree on some things musically, I wholeheartedly agree with Frigid's thoughts on religion and I have to say: much respect.

As for one more opinion on the religion thing (though I don't want to drag it out), I think that people believe and have faith because even more than all the aspects of the universe that we cannot explain, it is because when people die, they find it unacceptable that when they die, there is no afterlife and no continuation of their consciousness.

Not to stir up debate, either. But two things:

a) Not everybody who believes in God or even follows a particular religion necessarily believes in an afterlife. With some religions, such as Christianity, such a belief is manditory. But there are others (including many Jewish denominations) that don't require it.

b) One could just as easily make the argument that many atheists are atheists because they're hoping that science will eventually allow us to overcome death (I think Descartes once suggested that this might be the ultimate reason why a lot of scientists are atheists - when you dig beyond the "logical barriers", politics, etc.). Everybody fears death, regardless of religious belief.

Just sayin'. :wink:

Won't argue with you there dude, I'll be the first to admit I'm not looking forward to dying, and also the first to drink a proverbial elixir of life, in whatever form it is.

Dead Machine · **Joined:** Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:24 pm **Posts:** 2527

SoulSociety wrote:

Dead Machine wrote:

SoulSociety wrote:

Holy crap, it took a while to read all the posts, and I just wanted to put in my 2 cents. TBH, I thought DM had the Soviet flag as an avatar because it looks cool. :lol:

that's not the soviet flag, it's the hammer & sickle.

The soviet flag is a solid red flag with a hammer & sickle symbol in the upper left corner, and there's a yellow star above it.

Jesus, anal mood?

Hrm? The hammer and sickle is a symbol that stands for communism. it's been used in dozens of flags, not just the soviet one. what's anal about correcting a misconception with two sentences?

hell, the USSR wasn't really a communist state post 1925 anyway.

stevelovesmoonspell · **Posted:** Tue May 12, 2009 5:24 am

even if they werent commie until that point of time, they aren't half as bad as china who still claim to be

rio · **Posted:** Tue May 12, 2009 9:02 am

stevelovesmoonspell wrote:

even if they werent commie until that point of time, they aren't half as bad as china who still claim to be

They may claim it but they're not even close.

Dead Machine · **Joined:** Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:24 pm **Posts:** 2527

stevelovesmoonspell wrote:

even if they werent commie until that point of time, they aren't half as bad as china who still claim to be

china is a totalitarian state with a market economy and a nominal 'communist' party in charge; it's about as communist as Christmas Island or Germany.

stevelovesmoonspell · **Posted:** Tue May 12, 2009 10:03 pm

Dead Machine wrote:

stevelovesmoonspell wrote:

even if they werent commie until that point of time, they aren't half as bad as china who still claim to be

china is a totalitarian state with a market economy and a nominal 'communist' party in charge; it's about as communist as Christmas Island or Germany.

communist with free trade tendencies LOL

traptunderice · **Posted:** Tue May 12, 2009 10:06 pm

China's the perfect capitalist state. It's government allows its capital be moved and invested internationally while the workers are kept in authoritarian check.n

SoulSociety · **Posted:** Thu May 14, 2009 6:29 am

Not to mention all the inspiration for Axl Rose's latest masterpiece. :wink:

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