Goat wrote:
1. Perhaps it is just down to liberals not liking to see a bloodbath, but I'm sure the clubbers in question aren't that bothered if they do it wrong.
2. Again, I'm not sure you're right there.
3. Ah, but this is the sticking point: are human lives worth more than those of animals? Human testing is seen as horrific and immoral, but animal testing not? I'm not saying I agree with this, just pointing out the thought process. At its basic, most philosophical level, the idea of humans enslaving animals and killing them for their own convenience is hardly moral. And did I see you say that animal testing has resulted in a cure for polio, because I most sincerely hope that it was a typo.
4. Would they have been found out were it not for the animal-rights lot?
1. The most professional clubbers doubtlessly want the animals to die instantly so they don't put up a struggle while being dragged back to base for their pelts; this is pretty much obvious upon thinking about it. If the method is sound, then the implementation of the method is at fault, and that is not the problem of the method itself, but rather that of those who implement it. Once again, are we to hate all neurosurgeons because a few of them are inept?
2. Okay, well, if you can find some concrete examples of modern-day first-world zoos using cages/inappropriate habitats for their animals, then let me know as opposed to just voicing opposition and not basing it on anything.
3. Yes, animal testing is more moral than human testing. This is an extension of basic logic; your own life should be more valuable to you than anyone elses. If your own life is not more valuable to you than anyone elses, then you should kill yourself right now because your existence is contributing to overpopulation, and as such it would make the most logical sense for you to be dead so you aren't consuming resources that other people could be using.
Following on from that, if we are to posit that your own life is important enough to you that you shouldn't kill yourself immediately, then the most logical extrapolation is that human lives are more important to you than animal lives, seeing as your existence and the existence of your fellow humans, is, once again, putting undue strain on the planet and contributing to the current massive extinction event.
EDIT- Oh, and yes, animal testing resulted in a cure for polio. Not a typo. Look it up.
4. Probably. If research is to be useful, then there must be as few outside factors as possible putting undue stress on the animals being tested. If the animals being tested produce odd results due to their being abused, then the difference will be noticed when compared to similar studies. Inquiries will doubtlessly be made because it is not in the interest of scientific foundations to waste money on research that is being ruined by imbeciles. When found out, the imbeciles in question would either be reprimanded or fired, seeing as they cost the scientific foundations shitloads of money.