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Is Pantera thrash?
No way! 71%  71%  [ 12 ]
Way! 29%  29%  [ 5 ]
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No way in hell are they thrash. I would call them(and also Machine Head and post Arise Sepultura) anti-thrash.


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And he was awful on stage too.
Twice I've seen Pantera live and he was just ridiculous.


I just saw one, and was horrible... and after them, Gun, that was more horrible, and ended in a can/bottle war between them and the public.
Luckily, then Megadeth & Iron Maiden save my night.


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There's a video of him at a Pantera concert giving a "white pride" speech between songs too. What a dick.


got a link for it?


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1Jb-lLa960

He's a cunt.


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Legacy Of The Night wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1Jb-lLa960

He's a cunt.
He is a piece of shit. Fucking dope fiend. It's cute how he doesn't understand the stop black on black crime movement.


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He probably has balck people in his family tree.

Probably still hanging there to.


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He probably has balck people in his family tree.

Probably still hanging there to.


Dang frackin balck people must be stamped out :lol:


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Legacy Of The Night wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1Jb-lLa960

He's a cunt.
He is a piece of shit. Fucking dope fiend. It's cute how he doesn't understand the stop black on black crime movement.


It's not THAT bad, he seems mostly to be pissed off that black people can be racially proud but if white people do so they're labelled racist.

Not that I agree with him, and he IS a jackass, but it's not like it's openly racist.

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FrigidSymphony wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
Legacy Of The Night wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1Jb-lLa960

He's a cunt.
He is a piece of shit. Fucking dope fiend. It's cute how he doesn't understand the stop black on black crime movement.


It's not THAT bad, he seems mostly to be pissed off that black people can be racially proud but if white people do so they're labelled racist.

Not that I agree with him, and he IS a jackass, but it's not like it's openly racist.


So, you think that it's fine and dandy that "black people can be racially proud but if white people do so they're labelled racist"?

Ooohh thats right, dose blue-eyed debbils is evil incarnate, meanwhile every other race is the epitome of honor and virtue, doing what's right in spite of the evil oppresion of Y-T big black boot on their neck...
please.
There is a black man in the White House; so much for the myth that racism is more rampant than ever before, and only a trait of whites.
I understand this is what they teach in todays marxist indoctrination centers, err, I mean universities, but that doesn't change the fact that it's bullshit.

I had a laugh about the "not that I agree with him, but..." canard, though.

But, yeah, Anselmo's a twat.

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Oh, and fuck no Pantera isn't thrash.
Psuedo-aggro trendsters.
From gay hairspray glam, to wannabe thrash, to groove to tough-guy posturing to whatever else is en vogue, but consistently lame.

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cry of the banshee wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
Legacy Of The Night wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1Jb-lLa960

He's a cunt.
He is a piece of shit. Fucking dope fiend. It's cute how he doesn't understand the stop black on black crime movement.


It's not THAT bad, he seems mostly to be pissed off that black people can be racially proud but if white people do so they're labelled racist.

Not that I agree with him, and he IS a jackass, but it's not like it's openly racist.


So, you think that it's fine and dandy that "black people can be racially proud but if white people do so they're labelled racist"?

Ooohh thats right, dose blue-eyed debbils is evil incarnate, meanwhile every other race is the epitome of honor and virtue, doing what's right in spite of the evil oppresion of Y-T big black boot on their neck...
please.
There is a black man in the White House; so much for the myth that racism is more rampant than ever before, and only a trait of whites.
I understand this is what they teach in todays marxist indoctrination centers, err, I mean universities, but that doesn't change the fact that it's bullshit.

I had a laugh about the "not that I agree with him, but..." canard, though.

But, yeah, Anselmo's a twat.


Jesus... All I'm saying is that to some extent he has a point. I don't agree with him, because the term "white pride" is immediately associated with a plethora of unpleasant historical events and violent political ideologies. Now, if it were a cultural argument, he might be able to argue his point. As it is, he's just demonstrating insensitivity and jackassishness.

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FrigidSymphony wrote:
cry of the banshee wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
Legacy Of The Night wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1Jb-lLa960

He's a cunt.
He is a piece of shit. Fucking dope fiend. It's cute how he doesn't understand the stop black on black crime movement.


It's not THAT bad, he seems mostly to be pissed off that black people can be racially proud but if white people do so they're labelled racist.

Not that I agree with him, and he IS a jackass, but it's not like it's openly racist.


So, you think that it's fine and dandy that "black people can be racially proud but if white people do so they're labelled racist"?

Ooohh thats right, dose blue-eyed debbils is evil incarnate, meanwhile every other race is the epitome of honor and virtue, doing what's right in spite of the evil oppresion of Y-T big black boot on their neck...
please.
There is a black man in the White House; so much for the myth that racism is more rampant than ever before, and only a trait of whites.
I understand this is what they teach in todays marxist indoctrination centers, err, I mean universities, but that doesn't change the fact that it's bullshit.

I had a laugh about the "not that I agree with him, but..." canard, though.

But, yeah, Anselmo's a twat.


Jesus... All I'm saying is that to some extent he has a point. I don't agree with him, because the term "white pride" is immediately associated with a plethora of unpleasant historical events and violent political ideologies. Now, if it were a cultural argument, he might be able to argue his point. As it is, he's just demonstrating insensitivity and jackassishness.


Whites do not have a monopoly on unpleasant historical events.
It could be argued that black power or pride or brown pride is just as easily associated with "unpleasant events".
Take a look at the US crime statistics. Black on white crime is far more likely than the opposite.
Or the fact that the slaves brought over from Africa were by and large already enslaved by their fellow Africans, and were SOLD to the whites. And that slaverey is STILL practiced today in Africa.
Or the fact that genocide seems to happen at an alarming rate in Africa.

So, to say that one group having pride in their race, heritage, whatever is a noble thing, while deeming another groups pride is "racist", is hypocrisy at it's worst.

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Ok, I'm not going to argue. I dislike exaggerated political correctness. Everyone should be held accountable for their actions, regardless of their race. The discussion becomes interesting, however, when you start looking at mob psychology and cultural conditioning.

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FrigidSymphony wrote:
Ok, I'm not going to argue. I dislike exaggerated political correctness. Everyone should be held accountable for their actions, regardless of their race. The discussion becomes interesting, however, when you start looking at mob psychology and cultural conditioning.


No need to argue.
But as far as cultural conditioning is concerned, while blacks and other minority groups are allowed to be proud and even at times militant, whites are conditioned to feel guilt over past events.
As I stated, slavery (one of the main sticking points) is not so cut and dried as people like Sharpton and Jackson would like you to believe; they NEVER mention the fact that those slaves were already slaves, only their homes and masters changed.
Or that slavery is practiced today in Africa.
Or that whites have done more for blacks, in Africa and in the US, than blacks do for themselves. Let's face it: coming to America is the most fortunate thing ever happen to blacks (in the States, at least).
Yet, for some reason, we are supposed to feel guilty and roll over when we are told to, taking the blame for the pitiful state of the black community, wherever it may be, and be ashamed, while blacks and other minorities are allowed to revel in their pride...
sorry, but fuck that noise.
If it is good for one group, it is good for the other.

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You still can't ignore the violence and horrible mistreatment of blacks that occurred during the period when slavery was practiced in the US. While blacks in Africa may have already been slaves to black masters, white slaveowners in the US perceived them as naturally inferior because of their skin colour, thus facilitating the actual slavery. Enslaving other white people never crossed their mind.

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You still can't ignore the violence and horrible mistreatment of blacks that occurred during the period when slavery was practiced in the US. While blacks in Africa may have already been slaves to black masters, white slaveowners in the US perceived them as naturally inferior because of their skin colour, thus facilitating the actual slavery. Enslaving other white people never crossed their mind.


That was a long, long time ago...
What about the Irish? What about the Chinese?
Instead of picking at the scab of something that happened 200 years ago, why not do something about the present?
And what about the violence being committed on whites by blacks today? Not to mention the black on black violence.
Every racial group has been subjugated at one time or another; blacks do not have a monopoly on the subject.

And isn't it funny that the only thing that is ever mentioned is the bad, and not the good, i.e. trillions of $$$ spent on minority programs to "level the playing field", the abolition of slavery, the vast amounts of Western (read: white) charity sent to Africa and other places? Slavery is an excuse, just like racism, used to sweep aside any personal responsibilty.
Let's face it, looking at a black person the wrong way is considered racist in this day and age; take the video game RE5: the zombies in Africa are black, so that means it is racist? Hahaha... what about all the previous versions where the antagonists were white?
It's become akin to crying wolf one too many times... the term "racism" is almost meaningless at this point.

Percieving them as inferior had more to do with the fact that they lived in stone-age conditions, than their skin tone, I warrant.
Saying that the perception some have of blacks is based on the amount of melanin in their skin and not the behavior, is a red herring and dishonest.
That is a whole other topic, one that I am not anxious to revive.
If blacks can be proud of their race, why can't whites? Whites have contributed greatly to civilisation, and have a culture ( and I am not talking about "pop-culture", either) and heritage as well.

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It's not ethnic culture, it's geographically based, whereas we seem to throw anything African under the same cultural umbrella. Anyway, it's not "white culture", it's "German culture", "French culture", "Italian culture". It's not "white". African Americans are the only socio-cultural group that I know of that identify their ethnicity with their culture.

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FrigidSymphony wrote:
It's not ethnic culture, it's geographically based, whereas we seem to throw anything African under the same cultural umbrella. Anyway, it's not "white culture", it's "German culture", "French culture", "Italian culture". It's not "white".


So, how often do you hear the term "Zimbabwean" culture as opposed to "black culture"?
The phrase is "black power", not "Ugandan" power.
Again, a seperate set of conditions are being set for whites... it's black culture, but it's not white culture; it's black pride, but it's not white pride.
This "cultural umbrella" is given to blacks, but not whites; why?
this smacks of unity between blacks, while attempting to divide whites into smaller sub-groups.

Nice try.

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Both of you shut the hell up and concentrate on dissing Pantera. Val, you're far too willing to discuss this. Fridge, don't get trolled.

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