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Harris has a degree in philosophy.
A lot of people have degrees. Case in point, Ann Coulter. Wikipedia says Harris originally dropped out because of a revelation while taking ecstasy.

Unitarian-Universalism is such a polite religion.


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I try and have respect for people, but these 'I had a calamity and now believe in lizard-men' sorta books inspire nothing but wrath. If god exists, and it takes a near-fatal accident to make you accept that, how shallow a person are you?


Well, that isn't exactly Reeve's experience. His "faith discovery" is actually only one part of the book, and something he didn't do until long after his paralysis (in the midst of many of the other things he was doing to overcome it).


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I try and have respect for people, but these 'I had a calamity and now believe in lizard-men' sorta books inspire nothing but wrath. If god exists, and it takes a near-fatal accident to make you accept that, how shallow a person are you?


dunno, maybe it's takes an event like a near-death experience for one to start believing in a higher power. if you interpret survival in such an event as a miracle, it's just a step away from having outright faith in a god.

fortunately never having had a brush with death i can't say that i would know how i would feel.

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Goat wrote:
I try and have respect for people, but these 'I had a calamity and now believe in lizard-men' sorta books inspire nothing but wrath. If god exists, and it takes a near-fatal accident to make you accept that, how shallow a person are you?


dunno, maybe it's takes an event like a near-death experience for one to start believing in a higher power. if you interpret survival in such an event as a miracle, it's just a step away from having outright faith in a god.

fortunately never having had a brush with death i can't say that i would know how i would feel.


I get why they do it, I just think a bit of logical thought would stop them from doing so...

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I try and have respect for people, but these 'I had a calamity and now believe in lizard-men' sorta books inspire nothing but wrath. If god exists, and it takes a near-fatal accident to make you accept that, how shallow a person are you?


dunno, maybe it's takes an event like a near-death experience for one to start believing in a higher power. if you interpret survival in such an event as a miracle, it's just a step away from having outright faith in a god.

fortunately never having had a brush with death i can't say that i would know how i would feel.


I get why they do it, I just think a bit of logical thought would stop them from doing so...


I think it's probably the other way around. I've never been in such a situation before (and I've basically been a believer since childhood - sans a brief agnostic/skeptic period in high school), so may be I'm not the best reference. But many of these people probably found themselves going through a lot of pondering, "spiritual experiences", questioning, and even skepticism before deciding to accept God. In other words, finally accepting God was probably what ultimately seemed like the most logical thing for them to do after thinking carefully about the matter (as well as realizing their own mortality). I can certainly imagine recovery from such a traumatic experience being a pretty religious (or, at least, quasi-religious) experience. Especially for somebody who never thought much about religious faith or spirituality until then.

I think it probably depends on the person, really. Some people just naturally have an easier time accepting God than others (some scientists are even suggesting there may be biological factors associated with this, but that's still on the fence right now). For example, one of my favorite authors, Douglas Hofstadter (he writes mostly philosophical non-fiction, used a lot in theoretical computer science), had a wife who died of cancer about 15 years ago. During her death, he found himself starting to become more spiritual, but the inner skeptic in him kept him from becoming too wrapped up in the experience. So I think the individual's personality may also have a lot to do with it.

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Fuck Israel. I hope they get rocketed to shit after what they did today in Gaza. Fine, Hamas shouldn't support the kassem launchings, but a few kassems is no cause for this kind of butchery. The cycle goes on... I can totally see Bibi getting elected now, ffs.


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Fuck Israel. I hope they get rocketed to shit after what they did today in Gaza. Fine, Hamas shouldn't support the kassem launchings, but a few kassems is no cause for this kind of butchery. The cycle goes on... I can totally see Bibi getting elected now, ffs.
Express my American outrage at your blasphemy towards Israel. :rolleyes:

I feel bad for saying that I hate Israel. Stupid indoctrinating culture.


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(Israel discussion moved to Politics thread)


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"My name is George Michael Bluth, I'm a 16 year old caucasian male, my mom died, and I... I guess that's it."


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following the reaper wrote:
"My name is George Michael Bluth, I'm a 16 year old caucasian male, my mom died, and I... I guess that's it."


The best part was at the end of that episode.

Michael: "You can be honest with me. Tell me anything you want, and I'll listen."

George Michael: "...I love my cous-"

Michael: "I love you too son."


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following the reaper wrote:
"My name is George Michael Bluth, I'm a 16 year old caucasian male, my mom died, and I... I guess that's it."


The best part was at the end of that episode.

Michael: "You can be honest with me. Tell me anything you want, and I'll listen."

George Michael: "...I love my cous-"

Michael: "I love you too son."


"I'm just expressing myself, MAN" :cool:


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Haha, on season 2 of that now.


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Gob makes me fucking cry with laughter!

"Nothing on the INSIIIIDE" *taps head*


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Gob is one of the best characters in television history.


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I'm downloading (because I can't afford) all three seasons because of you guys. Anyone heard anything about the movie? All I remember was that everyone was on board.


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What series is this?

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Arrested Development.


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I'm downloading (because I can't afford) all three seasons because of you guys. Anyone heard anything about the movie? All I remember was that everyone was on board.


I heard Michael Cera is holding out, and that he doesn't want to say yes without a script, but I also read that Mitch Hurwitz doesn't want to commission the script without everyone on board. Stalemate lulz.

Anyway it's easily one of the funniest television shows ever, well worth a download :wub:

And second on Gob being one of the best characters ever :dio:


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following the reaper wrote:
"My name is George Michael Bluth, I'm a 16 year old caucasian male, my mom died, and I... I guess that's it."


Is that season 3? Only season I haven't seen yet...

Probably my favorite show ever. Gob is my favorite too, but Tobias is damn funny sometimes..."I know what it is. Tobias, you blow hard!"


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