Metallica - Death Magnetic (#4608)

Fatpom · **Joined:** Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:23 am **Posts:** 171

following the reaper wrote:

Fatpom wrote:

Right, so its just a massive coincidence that those bands had a major spike in quality when he was their producer.

massive spike in quality? Toxicity was a massive step down in quality.

Oh please, underground elitist douchbaggery counts for naught.

Rhys · **Posted:** Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:02 am

Zad wrote:

following the reaper wrote:

Fatpom wrote:

Right, so its just a massive coincidence that those bands had a major spike in quality when he was their producer.

massive spike in quality? Toxicity was a massive step down in quality.

Well, commercial quality at least. The SOAD debut was kickass, but still relatively underground album. With Toxicity they started writing songs and got big, even if it took steps towards Nu Metal and wasn't as good as the s/t.

It wasn't that underground was it? And no it's not elitism to like one album more than the ones that came after it fatpom :rolleyes:

GeneralDiomedes · **Posted:** Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:34 am

following the reaper wrote:

It wasn't that underground was it? And no it's not elitism to like one album more than the ones that came after it fatpom :rolleyes:

No doubt .. didn't RR produce them both??

SoulSociety · **Posted:** Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:15 am

SOAD were never underground, though IMO it's still pretty impressive that a band that writes songs like BYOB actually gets play time on MTV.

That being said, over here you do get a bit sick of them, or at least of Chop Suey! which is really overplayed in the rock bars/clubs.

Metastable To Chaos · **Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:20 am

GeneralDiomedes wrote:

following the reaper wrote:

It wasn't that underground was it? And no it's not elitism to like one album more than the ones that came after it fatpom :rolleyes:

No doubt .. didn't RR produce them both??

He's produced all of their albums.

GeneralDiomedes · **Posted:** Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:03 am

I just saw these guys live last Friday (still an excellent live band BTW - Hetfield remains one of the better frontmen), and I've got to say that my Metallica tastes have changed over the years. I really appreciate their more nuanced and mood based stuff now, and not just the simpler riffing. Perhaps it's just me getting older, but I was really digging the new material compared to songs like For Whom the Bell Tolls and Seek and Destroy.

Adveser · **Joined:** Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:26 am **Posts:** 2491

Grand Belial's Tea wrote:

following the reaper wrote:

Fatpom wrote:

Right, so its just a massive coincidence that those bands had a major spike in quality when he was their producer.

massive spike in quality? Toxicity was a massive step down in quality.

Well, commercial quality at least. The SOAD debut was kickass, but still relatively underground album. With Toxicity they started writing songs and got big, even if it took steps towards Nu Metal and wasn't as good as the s/t.

I don't think the debut was underground at all. It was heavily promoted in the WWF at the time. Spiders was used as a theme song of the month and they played the song numerous times overdubbing highlights.

The WWF's audience was somewhere around 5-10 million US viewers a week at the time and who knows how many people saw that band because of this exposure because of the international audience.

I don't think any band that over 10 million people have heard is underground in the slightest.

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