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Who will/would you pick?
Obama 74%  74%  [ 29 ]
Hilary 13%  13%  [ 5 ]
McCain 13%  13%  [ 5 ]
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Does anybody else thing that Cry of the Banshee sounds terribly like a nazi scumbag ? :unsure:
Just wondering... :lame:


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No of course not....... :wink:

I'd totally let him babysit my small children :wink:


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Does anybody else thing that Cry of the Banshee sounds terribly like a nazi scumbag ? :unsure:
Just wondering... :lame:


Keep baiting comments like those to yourself please. If someone were to make blatant nazi-esque posts, you can rest assured that he would be swiftly permabanned.


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How the fuck is anything he said Nazi stuff? Don't be so quick to label people.


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5/3/// wrote:
Does anybody else thing that Cry of the Banshee sounds terribly like a nazi scumbag ? :unsure:
Just wondering... :lame:


Idiot.

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following the reaper wrote:
Yeah man, all those Jews running the US..... whatever shall we do....what will we do when they overthrow the world???


Are you denying there is an undue influence from Israel / zionism on American foriegn policy?
Or that it is a little odd that Obama's CoS would volunteer to assista foriegn army while his homeland is at war?
Or that his CoS seems to have not gotten the memo about "change", in regards to sharing the wealth?

See, this whole kneejerk emotive nonsense like what you just wrote only weakens any argument you may (or may not, as is most likely) have.

By the way, I said zionist, not jew, but of course all jews are zionists, right?

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Adam wrote:
5/3/// wrote:
Does anybody else thing that Cry of the Banshee sounds terribly like a nazi scumbag ? :unsure:
Just wondering... :lame:


Keep baiting comments like those to yourself please. If someone were to make blatant nazi-esque posts, you can rest assured that he would be swiftly permabanned.


Thank you, Adam. The elephant in the living room, the one nobody dares talk about is a reality in modern day American politics.
Screaming "NAZI!" and "ANTI-SEMITE!" whenever one brings up AIPAC and the huge pro-Israel lobby in this country is a red herring designed to quell any valid argument.
My point (I do have one) is that for all the talk about change, I'm betting: probably not.

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Kathaarian wrote:
How the fuck is anything he said Nazi stuff? Don't be so quick to label people.


Hey, Kathaarian.
Of course it's not Nazi stuff. Calling someone a nazi, or a racist, or what have you in lieu of a valid counterpoint is failure.

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Cry of the banshee is absolutely right on this one. Whatever hope and change Obama promised to bring are either hollow populist phrases or things to be begged and negotiated for ad nauseam with the jewish lobby.

Note that this is not a conspiracy theory, as I'm not a left-wing nutcase.


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Another interesting tidbit:
70% of black California voters voted FOR Prop. 8, which would deny legal marriage status to gays.
Civil rights for some, not for others?

http://www.sacbee.com/capitolandcalifor ... 78391.html

Me, personally, I'm neutral; if two homos want to take the plunge, so be it, as long as they keep it to themselves..

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It just shows how blacks can use racial arguments and get away with it, and caucasians can't.


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Karmakosmonaut wrote:
It just shows how blacks can use racial arguments and get away with it, and caucasians can't.

And vote along purely racial lines with impunity.
96% of blacks voted for Obama.
They make up roughly ten percent of the population, so that means that @ 90% of Obama supporters were non-black.
Whites comprise 70% of the population, so it is safe to say that the majority of Obama supporters were white. Strange, whites are deemed racist for voting McCain. Yet, somehow, blacks are exempt from this standard.
The whole racism canard is very much like the Boy Who Cried Wolf.

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were people actually being called racist for voting for McCain :blink:

i agree about the Zionism/Israel bias in America's foreign policy


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Story from my local paper you would like banshee:

"Iran breaks 30-year rule to salute victor...." so on and so forth.... at the end...

"In Jerusalem, Israeli foreign Minister Tzipi Livni warned the incoming Obama administration against talks with Iran. 'Dialouge at this time is liable to broadcast weakness' Ms Livni cautioned."


Friends of mine were approving of Obama's election in their facebook statuses. In Australia. They are so pleased that a democrat is in the white house, despite not living in America, in fact living halfway around the world. I really don't care that much.

I seriously cringed though at the stuff on the news claiming shit like "America can regain its status as the leader of the free world" or some shit. :rolleyes:

Anyway ill admit to trolling and not really knowing enough about all this Israel stuff. I quit politics as part of my uni degree because it was boring as shit.


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Not all jews are Zionists; many wanted to settle in Guiana after WWII.

87%(?) of blacks voted for Kerry so take that for what it's worth.


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Not all jews are Zionists; many wanted to settle in Guiana after WWII.

87%(?) of blacks voted for Kerry so take that for what it's worth.


That most blacks are Democrats?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

What a shocking revelation! :rolleyes:


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I was trying to point out that masses of blacks voting democrat isn't new. People continuously think it was like that this year because Obama was black but that is completely wrong.


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Karmakosmonaut wrote:
Cry of the banshee is absolutely right on this one. Whatever hope and change Obama promised to bring are either hollow populist phrases or things to be begged and negotiated for ad nauseam with the jewish lobby.

Note that this is not a conspiracy theory, as I'm not a left-wing nutcase.


Haha, so you can say whatever you like and so long as you're not "left wing" then it isn't a conspiracy theory? On what planet did left wing people ever have a monopoly on conspiracy theories, anyway?

The "jewish lobby" theory is conspiracy theory antisemitic bullshit.

The "zionist/Israel" lobby is very real, of course, as should be obvious to anybody who watches any mainstream US politician talking about foreign policy. That is prety self-explanatory.

V has already pointed this out, but there are just as many christians as jews who are unquestioningly pro-Israel, if not more. In fact, now that I think of it I'd bet my house that there are far more Christians who are unquestioningly pro-Israel than there are jews. There are also a lot of jews who are pro-Palestinian.

So yes, the idea that there is a uniquely jewish lobby that determines US foreign policy is conspiracy theory bullshit.


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traptunderice wrote:
Not all jews are Zionists; many wanted to settle in Guiana after WWII.

87%(?) of blacks voted for Kerry so take that for what it's worth.


So, by my calculations, using yours and CotB's figures, 9% of blacks switched to voting democratic under Obama.

There was about a 5% swing to the democrats overall- (Kerry got 48%, Obama got 53%, I think)- so by an extremely unscientific and arbitrary method we can hypothesise:

87% of blacks vote democrat anyway.
5% of the black vote swing to Obama is consistent with the overall national average.
That leaves 4% of black votes for Obama that can't be explained by the above two factors.

My most sincere apologies to anybody here that actually has any knowledge of actual statistics :P


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rio wrote:

The "jewish lobby" theory is conspiracy theory antisemitic bullshit.



For the record, anti-semites are opposed to both Israel and Palestine, as that the area the term covers.

You can be anti-Jewish without being anti-semitic.


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