Metal Reviews

Congratulations to Obama and kudos to McCain for an awesome speech. It is a historic night as everyone is saying- lets just hope that Obama will actually make with some ch-ch-ch-changes.

Obama just came out and people are going fucking crazy. He really is quite the rock star. It's funny, when the camera was going through the crowd, Oprah was there and someone spotted her on the big screen and went "OPRAAAAH OPRAAH OPREAHAEGKAEGHAKEGK" for like 10 seconds.

Im watching Obama's speech right now, haha his daughters are getting a puppy LOL.

McCain's defeat speech was pretty nice or what?

Obama had a real powerful speech. I hope he lives up to his promise.

He better live up to all he promised, because he is gonna get more shit than other presidents. They'll cut him some slack in the beginning but if he would continue making mistakes, the 'Messiah' will get crucified. Still, good job Obama!

Everybody move to America! Valefor moves to Canada! Whoo, what a great start to the day.

Dude, give it up already.
Your incessant baiting is getting boring.

As for Obama, we'll see. The only real difference between him and his party's predecessors is that he is half black.

Jam. Pots of.

McCain's speech was actually good. Obama has to pull through so hard or he is going to get criticized ridiculously.

He's going to face criticism for every move he makes, that's a given. It'll be interesting to see if he expands in Afghanistan. Cue liberals telling conservatives not to question the President in times of war!

Damn McCain-fans are paranoid. quote: "Obama is an evil and gruesome man"

Hopefully, those kinds of tensions will ease with time. Hardcore Republicans are just sore right now because they were soundly defeated in all aspects yesterday. They sure could take a cue on how to accept defeat from their Presidential candidate.

V, allow me to agree with you in some ways and disagree in others.

As a matter of fact I agree with you entirely about the 2 party system. It is the same here (except it's more like a 3 party system, but the third bunch are puny emo runts with no hope of getting near power) I do not support any of these three parties, in fact I really have to say I despise them all, although in days of old I would have been a labour party supporter before they sold out.

I believe very, very strongly in proportional representation. i.e. the number of representatives a party gets is based on the percentage of people that vote for them, rather than the number of constituencies they win or electoral college votes they get, or some other bullshit. PR is a much purer form of democracy. As it stands, in the UK, 10% of people could vote for a socialist party, and yet there would be NO socialist representation in parliament whatsoever, because that wouldn't win them a majority in any individual areas. So, unless you support someone that is big in your own neighbourhood, your vote is COMPLETELY WASTED. Under PR, if 10% voted socialist, 10% of representatives in parliament would be socialist. I am sick of being so disenfranchised under the current system in the UK.

You talk about liberalism being about the welfare state and the government being the "protector". As a matter of fact, I agree with this, to an extent. IMO liberalism- by which I mean the "big government" liberalism of Roosevelt/Keynes etc. is a compromise between the capitalist establishment and socialism. Socialism in its PROPER sense, rather than the weakling liberal sense or the mentalist Stalin/Mao sense is about government being run collectively by ordinary people directly- they don't elect "representatives" or pick between parties, they just get together in their local area, and discuss and vote equally upon what to do. Then they go ahead and do it themselves.

Now, this applies both politically AND economically. In fact, IMO the latter is even more important. The way in which companies are run- what they make, what is done with the profits, how wages are divided up between people, who is hired and fired, should be done collectively by the people that work for that company. As soon as someone joins the company, they are not just trained to do a low skilled grunt job, but they begin to be trained by the other people there to do a wide variety of jobs. This means that they can immediately begin to genuinely contribute to it, and subsequently, as soon as they begin to learn about it they are ready to start taking responsibility for the company like everyone else does and have an equal say in how it is run, and how profits are divided.

So, far from encouraging people NOT to take responsibility for themselves, like liberalism does, it actually encourages them to take more- just in a different way than they have to in a capitalist business. People are expected to pull their weight, but they are more willing to do this because they actually have a real stake of ownership in the company, and therefore also in society as a whole.

Understandably, these types of ideas scare politicians and businessmen shitless. This explains where liberalism comes from. Liberal politicians say, hey, if we give people welfare and a load of free stuff, then that will throw them a bone and they will stop getting above their station. Anyway, for the most part this has worked pretty well- it is no coincidence that socialism began to lose the mass support it once had after the liberal dawn of people like FDR and Keynes.

Anyway, just my opinion on the matter. Having said these things about liberals, I am still glad Obama won, because he is at least closer to my views than McCain, although I am still a long way away from him. In the absence of an actual socialist alternative, we have to make do with the liberals

Of course Obama won't live up to his promises. He's a politician. Politicians are lying assholes. Obama's just a lying asshole that gives a good speech.

I must say, I would love to see footage of a politician being a bad loser and throwing a fit. Be honest, guys.

Fucking rich kids in my school whining about how they're going to have to pay higher taxes. Your family had eight fucking years of tax cuts and "trickle-down" economics, now shut up and actually do your economic duty.

if i were an American i'd be pretty happy that Obama is the president. i was pretty neutral between McCain and Obama until Palin was chosen. Obama will greatly improve how other countries look at the US as well as the historical event of being the first black president.

x2 the Obama nut huggers are going to cry during this term because their hero didn't live up to their expectations.

And guess what I'm going to throw it at their faces big time.

I feel like everyone realizes politicians suck. People simply hope that maybe that won't be true about Obama as much as the past politicians.

Cynicism cynicism dem politicians with the lying lawl cynicism.

There are good politicians and bad politicians- to say that all politicians are lying assholes is just as naive in its own cynical way as expecting all politicians to be honest and do what they say. I don't know that Obama will live up to his promises or that he'll be a good president, and I doubt that he's going to be able to solve all our problems but he does have the potential, and its possible that in twenty years most of us will be happy that he was elected- just like many Americans are now happy that Abraham Lincoln and Franklin Roosevelt were elected.