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Who will/would you pick?
Obama 74%  74%  [ 29 ]
Hilary 13%  13%  [ 5 ]
McCain 13%  13%  [ 5 ]
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But, I've heard all of these same promises before, and nothing changes; the problems this country is facing are nothing new and I can't help but think that the American people are getting the wool pulled over their eyes, yet again.


And that's what nobody wants to admit. John Stossel had a special on ABC last night where he showed how every Pres since Carter made the same promises while they were campaigning that these two are (energy independence, balanced budget, etc). I guess you have to give the American voting public credit for somehow maintaining hope, but sooner or later these empty promises are going to catch up with Washington.

I think that Stossel special was called "A Politcally Incorrect Guide to Politics". If you ever get a chance to watch it, I recommend it. You'll be shaking your head in disgust constantly.


thanks, man... I'll try to track it down, but I'll need to brace myself with a few drinks first, haha.

It's both sad and funny how gullible this country is at times.

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For me the most important issues regarding who's in the white house are foreign policy (stop pissing everybody off), environmental issues (imagine if all the bloody money spent on the Iraq war had been spent on combating global warming), humanist involvement (with all the money the US can afford to spend on its leaders little whimsical tantrums, how about sending some to places that need it?) and human rights (it is your right, not obligation, but your choice to get an abortion if you so wish and not have to make do with a coathanger in the bathroom).

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For me the most important issues regarding who's in the white house are foreign policy (stop pissing everybody off), environmental issues (imagine if all the bloody money spent on the Iraq war had been spent on combating global warming), humanist involvement (with all the money the US can afford to spend on its leaders little whimsical tantrums, how about sending some to places that need it?) and human rights (it is your right, not obligation, but your choice to get an abortion if you so wish and not have to make do with a coathanger in the bathroom).


That money should be spent on the people of this country; screw "other countries that need it". People here need it.
You want to send your personal money to some third world money pit, be my guest, but MY taxes should be spent on what is in this country's interests, namely domestic issues.

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For me the most important issues regarding who's in the white house are foreign policy (stop pissing everybody off), environmental issues (imagine if all the bloody money spent on the Iraq war had been spent on combating global warming), humanist involvement (with all the money the US can afford to spend on its leaders little whimsical tantrums, how about sending some to places that need it?) and human rights (it is your right, not obligation, but your choice to get an abortion if you so wish and not have to make do with a coathanger in the bathroom).


That money should be spent on the people of this country; screw "other countries that need it". People here need it.
You want to send your personal money to some third world money pit, be my guest, but MY taxes should be spent on what is in this country's interests, namely domestic issues.


I didn't say all money, but definetely some. But yes, domestic issues are obviously more important for a resident.

Oh and another thing important about who's the prez- Assigning supreme court judges. There are far too many conservatives in there now, all friends of Bush sr.

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For me the most important issues regarding who's in the white house are foreign policy (stop pissing everybody off), environmental issues (imagine if all the bloody money spent on the Iraq war had been spent on combating global warming), humanist involvement (with all the money the US can afford to spend on its leaders little whimsical tantrums, how about sending some to places that need it?) and human rights (it is your right, not obligation, but your choice to get an abortion if you so wish and not have to make do with a coathanger in the bathroom).


That money should be spent on the people of this country; screw "other countries that need it". People here need it.
You want to send your personal money to some third world money pit, be my guest, but MY taxes should be spent on what is in this country's interests, namely domestic issues.


I didn't say all money, but definetely some. But yes, domestic issues are obviously more important for a resident.

Oh and another thing important about who's the prez- Assigning supreme court judges. There are far too many conservatives in there now, all friends of Bush sr.


Yeah man, I actually agree with V for once. Our economy is going down the shithole and people here need serious help. That being said, collaboration with foreign leaders is also important to help fix the global market.

Iceland is going bankrupt :(. Like, the whole damn country


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Is it bad that I think Powell endorsing Obama is simply based on race?


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For me the most important issues regarding who's in the white house are foreign policy (stop pissing everybody off), environmental issues (imagine if all the bloody money spent on the Iraq war had been spent on combating global warming), humanist involvement (with all the money the US can afford to spend on its leaders little whimsical tantrums, how about sending some to places that need it?) and human rights (it is your right, not obligation, but your choice to get an abortion if you so wish and not have to make do with a coathanger in the bathroom).


That money should be spent on the people of this country; screw "other countries that need it". People here need it.
You want to send your personal money to some third world money pit, be my guest, but MY taxes should be spent on what is in this country's interests, namely domestic issues.


I didn't say all money, but definetely some. But yes, domestic issues are obviously more important for a resident.

Oh and another thing important about who's the prez- Assigning supreme court judges. There are far too many conservatives in there now, all friends of Bush sr.


Yeah man, I actually agree with V for once. Our economy is going down the shithole and people here need serious help. That being said, collaboration with foreign leaders is also important to help fix the global market.

Iceland is going bankrupt :(. Like, the whole damn country


I do agree that countries should be spending money to solve their own problems, but the problems of most countries cannot be solved at all by government spending money. Since the 80s government in developed countries such as the US and UK has been spending more and more to pick up the slack left by companies that have been undermining real wages, employment security, and every other element of the "social contract" in order to make their profits.

Your taxes should not be the main way of helping US citizens, the limitless resources that are abused by business should be.


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Is it bad that I think Powell endorsing Obama is simply based on race?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nyvqhdll ... rg/?p=2915
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I don't see why the idea of Colin Powell for non-racial reasons is so far-fetched. We know Powell didn't agree with the rest of the W administration on the war and supported it against his better judgement, it doesn't seem that surprising.


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I don't see why the idea of Colin Powell for non-racial reasons is so far-fetched. We know Powell didn't agree with the rest of the W administration on the war and supported it against his better judgement, it doesn't seem that surprising.


Also anyone endorsing Obama against the current Republican candidates is redeeming himself somewhat in the eyes of the non-joe sixpacks.

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Is it bad that I think Powell endorsing Obama is simply based on race?


I figured it was more likely because Obama is going to be the winner, unless something radical happens. Otherwise he would have been on board since day one.


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Powell has been a figurehead in the Republican party and it just surprises me that he would support a Democrat.


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Powell has been a figurehead in the Republican party and it just surprises me that he would support a Democrat.

He must be intelligent enough to realize that Palin's candidacy is a disgrace to American democracy.

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Sexist scum.

From another forum:

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Mario: Fascism

Mushroom Kingdom represents the chaos of freedom. Where those that want to simply jump around throwing hammers, those keeping their coins in the open air, or those flying around in clouds dropping spiked turtle things are allowed to engage in their anti-social and unproductive activities. Mario, the fascist hero, proceeds to force order and control into Mushroom Kingom through violence if need be. He invades the private abode of various property owners (Bowzer represents the Jew) and proceeds to destroy, re-appropriate, and exterminate the elements that strive to live outside of the social realm as an exploiter and a parasite. The seeming non-sequitars of Mushroom Kingdom (magic fire flowers, a raccoon tail that lets you fly, etc) are symbolic of the nature of spritual dischord that comes from social anarchism and the moral failures of secularism.
As it stands, Mario is a prototypical fascist hero who is willing to bring order, form, and balance to a distraught, chaotic, and terrible land of freedom gone awry through the triumph of his own will.

Sonic: anarcho-syndicalism
Sonic represents the speed and productivity of the worker allowed to organize and control production in a highly advanced industrial society while Dr Eggman represents the onslaught of capital attempting to destroy the labor force and the collective democratic powers through automation (robots in particular). He wishes to conquer the world leaving the worker desperate and starved and only those who are capable of owning and controlling production through automation will be able to have a high standard of living.


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Just voted. I got in and out of there in 5 min. Everybody I talked to had to wait 30 min - an hour.


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http://maps.google.com/help/maps/electi ... 8_election

I'll be checking as soon as I wake up in about 6 hours (not because of the election, just because I happen to be getting up in about 6 hours)


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Just voted. I got in and out of there in 5 min. Everybody I talked to had to wait 30 min - an hour.


It was about the same for me, although I did get up a little earlier for work this morning in order to beat the crowds. At 8:30 the place was already bustling, and I've never seen it that way before. I do think all of the talk of "record turnouts" may actually be true this time.


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I voted in less than 5 minutes but I live in a rural area. I did have to vote at a table because the booths were filled up and I didn't feel like waiting.


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Funny how no-one's saying who they voted for. I'm going to exercise my European lefty cynicism and assume that this means you all voted Republican and the world will soon recoil in horror as America invades Russia.


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