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Did Metallica Make A Comeback With Death Magnetic?
Yes 70%  70%  [ 30 ]
No 30%  30%  [ 13 ]
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Jesus, there are so many METALLICA fanboyz here. It's annoying actually.


I agree.


And an equal amount of people who call others "fanboys" for liking something they don't. When did people start using that term to get out of every argument anyway, it's such a stupid fucking thing to say. It's so dismissive, like throwing someone's opinions out the window and dismissing them as "fanboys."


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Wouldn't you say that someone that called this album a masterpiece (which someone actually did) is a fanboy? Or stating that they show all the other bands how thrash should be played?

I agree with you, it is dismissive, and maybe a stupid thing to say. BUT, that kind of close-mindedness is fucking annoying.


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I bet some of you would actually buy Metallica underoos if they had them :lol:

I bet some of you would buy those underdoo's just to shit in them.


Only if it was a St Anger version :lol:


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Wouldn't you say that someone that called this album a masterpiece (which someone actually did) is a fanboy? Or stating that they show all the other bands how thrash should be played?

I agree with you, it is dismissive, and maybe a stupid thing to say. BUT, that kind of close-mindedness is fucking annoying.


I'd call that ignorant. It sounds like something someone would say if they're new to thrash, or new to metal for that matter.


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I voted yes. This is the first Metallica album I picked up since Reload. It is too early for me to rate the album. I was expecting a combo of Load & TBA, but this seems more of a combo of TBA and ..justice. I am pleasantly surprised. Metallica have indeed made a good metal album. I listened to it just once. But from what I could gather, I will listen to it a few more times. Although I find most of Metallica's solos to be good, but nothing great, it's good to have them back. And as someone else said elsewhere, this album sounds like Metallica. I was a bit sceptical about how the vocals would be after reading a few posts. But, I feel it's James best performance since TBA. I really dunno what they were thinking when they wrote Unforgiven III. Save for the fantastic solo, it's awful. The Unforgiven is one of my fav tracks. The Unforgiven II was bad and this is worse. Apart from that one song, I have no complaints about this album and that includes the production. This album definitely had a better impact on first listen than Slayer's Christ Illusion. I have listened to Megadeth's UA too just once. Although I feel Megadeth, as always, have beaten Metallica in musicmanship, I still feel this album is a good, successful comeback for Metallica.


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EdgeOfForever wrote:
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Jesus, there are so many METALLICA fanboyz here. It's annoying actually.


I agree.


And an equal amount of people who call others "fanboys" for liking something they don't. When did people start using that term to get out of every argument anyway, it's such a stupid fucking thing to say. It's so dismissive, like throwing someone's opinions out the window and dismissing them as "fanboys."


It's a stupid thing to say when it's not true. In this case, it's pretty obvious it's true. There are a few new posters who only post on Metallica threads, trying to persuade everyone that Death Magnetic is the new highest peak of all metal. Yeah, fanboy seems like a pretty accurate description to me.


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EdgeOfForever wrote:
The Evil Dead wrote:
Dago wrote:
Jesus, there are so many METALLICA fanboyz here. It's annoying actually.


I agree.


And an equal amount of people who call others "fanboys" for liking something they don't. When did people start using that term to get out of every argument anyway, it's such a stupid fucking thing to say. It's so dismissive, like throwing someone's opinions out the window and dismissing them as "fanboys."


Dude, it's so clear in this thread that the only stupid thing would be not to highlight it.


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EdgeOfForever wrote:
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Wouldn't you say that someone that called this album a masterpiece (which someone actually did) is a fanboy? Or stating that they show all the other bands how thrash should be played?

I agree with you, it is dismissive, and maybe a stupid thing to say. BUT, that kind of close-mindedness is fucking annoying.


I'd call that ignorant. It sounds like something someone would say if they're new to thrash, or new to metal for that matter.


I'd rather say that they are ignorant who are trying to convince, that Death Magnetic is NOT a good album.

And there are more Metallica haters here in the forum than "Fanboys". They would hate EVERYTHING that Metallica would release. Even if it's a second Ride the Lightning.

Or maybe they can't forget St. Anger and are still rating this, when they talk of Death Magnetic.


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huh? We are not 14-yearolds who think it's cool to hate Metallica. If Metallica actually released one killer album, I would get it. Of course I would. Why the hell should I deny listening to music that is good?

Point is that this is not another ride the lightning or another master of puppets. It's not a fucking masterpiece nor a thrashlecture. It's just another thrash-record, and there are so many thrash albums that is way better than this.


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I don't necessarily agree with this. I'd take Death Magnetic over Exodus' new stuff any day, and Overkill's RelixIV and the past two Megadeth albums have been just about as average. Kreator's Enemy of God barely edges it out, and Sodom's latest is just awesome.


I should just mention that Overkill's MOST recent is actually Immortalis, and it's WAY better than RelixIV. Not saying it's better than Death Magnetic, just saying it's the most shining example of Overkill's recent output.


Oh ya, I completely agree- Immortalis is definitely a good album. I was just using Relix as an example of a recent overkill album that that is just as average as Death Magnetic. Its not about Metallica being Metallica that causes us to say that Death Magnetic is an average album- lots of old thrash bands have released average albums recently, and we don't suck their cocks anymore than we do Metallica's.


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TheMetalWarrior316 wrote:
EdgeOfForever wrote:
metal_xxx wrote:
Wouldn't you say that someone that called this album a masterpiece (which someone actually did) is a fanboy? Or stating that they show all the other bands how thrash should be played?

I agree with you, it is dismissive, and maybe a stupid thing to say. BUT, that kind of close-mindedness is fucking annoying.


I'd call that ignorant. It sounds like something someone would say if they're new to thrash, or new to metal for that matter.


I'd rather say that they are ignorant who are trying to convince, that Death Magnetic is NOT a good album.

And there are more Metallica haters here in the forum than "Fanboys". They would hate EVERYTHING that Metallica would release. Even if it's a second Ride the Lightning.

Or maybe they can't forget St. Anger and are still rating this, when they talk of Death Magnetic.


Hey, you fucking idiot, if you actually read what the people of this board are actually saying, you'd realise the common opinion on this album is that there are a few good songs on it, and not a single great one, it's just plain old fuckin' average. Quit making up your own ideas of what people are saying here, just because of some shit you read on some other board.


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Secretly, deep down, everyone agrees with my review and score. 73. That's just how it is, baby. We vote as one.


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imo it's more like a 50 or 55. it passes but just barely


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noodles wrote:
imo it's more like a 50 or 55. it passes but just barely


You're not one of us. You were never one of us.


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TheMetalWarrior316 wrote:
EdgeOfForever wrote:
metal_xxx wrote:
Wouldn't you say that someone that called this album a masterpiece (which someone actually did) is a fanboy? Or stating that they show all the other bands how thrash should be played?

I agree with you, it is dismissive, and maybe a stupid thing to say. BUT, that kind of close-mindedness is fucking annoying.


I'd call that ignorant. It sounds like something someone would say if they're new to thrash, or new to metal for that matter.


I'd rather say that they are ignorant who are trying to convince, that Death Magnetic is NOT a good album.

And there are more Metallica haters here in the forum than "Fanboys". They would hate EVERYTHING that Metallica would release. Even if it's a second Ride the Lightning.

Or maybe they can't forget St. Anger and are still rating this, when they talk of Death Magnetic.

Actually, that's true. They should've stopped writing music long ago and just continued on touring now and then.


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Zad wrote:
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imo it's more like a 50 or 55. it passes but just barely


You're not one of us. You were never one of us.


haha.

seriously though 73 is a good rating, even though mine would be +5 it's inconsequential really cause it still stays in the category "Good album, nothing extraordinary but enjoyable"

Some people quote DM so highly because they expected less (a lot less!) after the shitty St. Anger. Rating in such a way is wrong, it's like saying cafeteria food was gastronimic after not eating for weeks: it's enjoyable but far from being gastronomic. Basically your lowering your standards.


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Zad wrote:
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imo it's more like a 50 or 55. it passes but just barely


You're not one of us. You were never one of us.


y is this


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noodles wrote:
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imo it's more like a 50 or 55. it passes but just barely


You're not one of us. You were never one of us.


y is this


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Some people quote DM so highly because they expected less (a lot less!) after the shitty St. Anger. Rating in such a way is wrong, it's like saying cafeteria food was gastronimic after not eating for weeks: it's enjoyable but far from being gastronomic. Basically your lowering your standards.


Yeah, I did the exact same thing. The first time I heard it I loved how it sounded like Metallica again and I was raving to my friends about it. It took me two spins to realise it wasn't spectacular at all.


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EdgeOfForever wrote:
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Some people quote DM so highly because they expected less (a lot less!) after the shitty St. Anger. Rating in such a way is wrong, it's like saying cafeteria food was gastronimic after not eating for weeks: it's enjoyable but far from being gastronomic. Basically your lowering your standards.


Yeah, I did the exact same thing. The first time I heard it I loved how it sounded like Metallica again and I was raving to my friends about it. It took me two spins to realise it wasn't spectacular at all.


I think you need at least 10 spins to realise, that it is indeed a great album, because most of the songs are not so catchy like Enter Sandman or Sad But True or Nothing Else Matters. It's more like and justice for all, which also needs some time to grow.

DM is not fast food thrash. It's big, it's bulky and it's very long. Who can really know a 80 minute monster in only one or two listening sessions? IMO there is only one real catchy song, which is in league with Enter Sandman, and this is Cyanide. It has a good strophe, a very cool chorus and not much soli. The rest like All Nightmare Long is much more complex.

For example: The Frayed Ends of Sanity is a song which can be easily overlooked, but if you engage with it, then you realise what good song it actually is.


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