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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:01 pm 
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This album is boring as fuck. Slow melodic intro, keyboard break, then super ultra fast soloing for seven minutes.


Not flowery enough?


I actually like music with some thought gone into it, thank you very much. This is formulaic as fuck.


So is Sonata Arctica, back in their old days. Just Stratovarius with more gaytarded vocals/lyrics.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:07 pm 
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I fucking hate this album.They are repeating and recreating vocal lines, estructures, armonies, everything.
My favorite is their Inhuman Rampage album and I'm planning to buy Sonic Firestorm.But to me, they are oficcially dead (creatively).
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I took out Valley of the Damned today, and man is that album awesome. Still their best.


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Well I got it thinking they might try something different but it's just mostly the same.


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FrigidSymphony wrote:
This album is boring as fuck. Slow melodic intro, keyboard break, then super ultra fast soloing for seven minutes.


By saying that, then you haven't really listened to this album at all. Or maybe you just cant get around your negative bias towards the band.

The structure may sound the same as previous albums, but how many other bands do the same thing? Countless. The thing is they dont have super ultra fast soloing for seven minutes.

I recommend that you go give it another listen, and this time actually "hear it"


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It's still Dragonforce. It's what they've already done three times before but just arranged well enough for people to hype it as their best.


Yes its still dragonforce, but they have evolved this time. I too hoped it woudn't be a repeat of the last 2, but its not. The tempo has dropped yet still speedy. The album is more creative than their others and really has more melody to it.


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Trooper Of Steel wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
This album is boring as fuck. Slow melodic intro, keyboard break, then super ultra fast soloing for seven minutes.


By saying that, then you haven't really listened to this album at all. Or maybe you just cant get around your negative bias towards the band.

The structure may sound the same as previous albums, but how many other bands do the same thing? Countless. The thing is they dont have super ultra fast soloing for seven minutes.

I recommend that you go give it another listen, and this time actually "hear it"


Yes, many bands also do the same thing, but with enough variety to make it interesting. And anyway, the fact that "other bands do it too" is not an excuse for releasing a crap record. Every single melody is replaceable with a different songs melody, all the harmonies, riffs, the actual songs are all interchangeable. I didn't have to wait for this record to come out to hear it, I already heard it on Inhuman Rampage.

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FrigidSymphony wrote:
Trooper Of Steel wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
This album is boring as fuck. Slow melodic intro, keyboard break, then super ultra fast soloing for seven minutes.


By saying that, then you haven't really listened to this album at all. Or maybe you just cant get around your negative bias towards the band.

The structure may sound the same as previous albums, but how many other bands do the same thing? Countless. The thing is they dont have super ultra fast soloing for seven minutes.

I recommend that you go give it another listen, and this time actually "hear it"


I didn't have to wait for this record to come out to hear it, I already heard it on Inhuman Rampage.


That is where you are wrong.


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metalNESS wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
Trooper Of Steel wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
This album is boring as fuck. Slow melodic intro, keyboard break, then super ultra fast soloing for seven minutes.


By saying that, then you haven't really listened to this album at all. Or maybe you just cant get around your negative bias towards the band.

The structure may sound the same as previous albums, but how many other bands do the same thing? Countless. The thing is they dont have super ultra fast soloing for seven minutes.

I recommend that you go give it another listen, and this time actually "hear it"


I didn't have to wait for this record to come out to hear it, I already heard it on Inhuman Rampage.


That is where you are wrong.


Dead wrong...


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FrigidSymphony wrote:
Trooper Of Steel wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
This album is boring as fuck. Slow melodic intro, keyboard break, then super ultra fast soloing for seven minutes.


By saying that, then you haven't really listened to this album at all. Or maybe you just cant get around your negative bias towards the band.

The structure may sound the same as previous albums, but how many other bands do the same thing? Countless. The thing is they dont have super ultra fast soloing for seven minutes.

I recommend that you go give it another listen, and this time actually "hear it"


Yes, many bands also do the same thing, but with enough variety to make it interesting. And anyway, the fact that "other bands do it too" is not an excuse for releasing a crap record. Every single melody is replaceable with a different songs melody, all the harmonies, riffs, the actual songs are all interchangeable. I didn't have to wait for this record to come out to hear it, I already heard it on Inhuman Rampage.


Wait, wait, wait. You didn't actually listen to it yet?


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TheOctavarius wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
Trooper Of Steel wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
This album is boring as fuck. Slow melodic intro, keyboard break, then super ultra fast soloing for seven minutes.


By saying that, then you haven't really listened to this album at all. Or maybe you just cant get around your negative bias towards the band.

The structure may sound the same as previous albums, but how many other bands do the same thing? Countless. The thing is they dont have super ultra fast soloing for seven minutes.

I recommend that you go give it another listen, and this time actually "hear it"


Yes, many bands also do the same thing, but with enough variety to make it interesting. And anyway, the fact that "other bands do it too" is not an excuse for releasing a crap record. Every single melody is replaceable with a different songs melody, all the harmonies, riffs, the actual songs are all interchangeable. I didn't have to wait for this record to come out to hear it, I already heard it on Inhuman Rampage.


Wait, wait, wait. You didn't actually listen to it yet?


Of course I listened to it, I just said I could have not even bothered.

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FrigidSymphony wrote:
TheOctavarius wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
Trooper Of Steel wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
This album is boring as fuck. Slow melodic intro, keyboard break, then super ultra fast soloing for seven minutes.


By saying that, then you haven't really listened to this album at all. Or maybe you just cant get around your negative bias towards the band.

The structure may sound the same as previous albums, but how many other bands do the same thing? Countless. The thing is they dont have super ultra fast soloing for seven minutes.

I recommend that you go give it another listen, and this time actually "hear it"


Yes, many bands also do the same thing, but with enough variety to make it interesting. And anyway, the fact that "other bands do it too" is not an excuse for releasing a crap record. Every single melody is replaceable with a different songs melody, all the harmonies, riffs, the actual songs are all interchangeable. I didn't have to wait for this record to come out to hear it, I already heard it on Inhuman Rampage.


Wait, wait, wait. You didn't actually listen to it yet?


Of course I listened to it, I just said I could have not even bothered.


Then you would know that a lot of parts on this album are not interchangable with other songs/albums. Maybe some of the fast parts, sure, but the same could be said for Sonata Arctica and the like.


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TheOctavarius wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
TheOctavarius wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
Trooper Of Steel wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
This album is boring as fuck. Slow melodic intro, keyboard break, then super ultra fast soloing for seven minutes.


By saying that, then you haven't really listened to this album at all. Or maybe you just cant get around your negative bias towards the band.

The structure may sound the same as previous albums, but how many other bands do the same thing? Countless. The thing is they dont have super ultra fast soloing for seven minutes.

I recommend that you go give it another listen, and this time actually "hear it"


Yes, many bands also do the same thing, but with enough variety to make it interesting. And anyway, the fact that "other bands do it too" is not an excuse for releasing a crap record. Every single melody is replaceable with a different songs melody, all the harmonies, riffs, the actual songs are all interchangeable. I didn't have to wait for this record to come out to hear it, I already heard it on Inhuman Rampage.


Wait, wait, wait. You didn't actually listen to it yet?


Of course I listened to it, I just said I could have not even bothered.


Then you would know that a lot of parts on this album are not interchangable with other songs/albums. Maybe some of the fast parts, sure, but the same could be said for Sonata Arctica and the like.


Obviously he didn't notice the first time round


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Trooper Of Steel wrote:
TheOctavarius wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
TheOctavarius wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
Trooper Of Steel wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
This album is boring as fuck. Slow melodic intro, keyboard break, then super ultra fast soloing for seven minutes.


By saying that, then you haven't really listened to this album at all. Or maybe you just cant get around your negative bias towards the band.

The structure may sound the same as previous albums, but how many other bands do the same thing? Countless. The thing is they dont have super ultra fast soloing for seven minutes.

I recommend that you go give it another listen, and this time actually "hear it"


Yes, many bands also do the same thing, but with enough variety to make it interesting. And anyway, the fact that "other bands do it too" is not an excuse for releasing a crap record. Every single melody is replaceable with a different songs melody, all the harmonies, riffs, the actual songs are all interchangeable. I didn't have to wait for this record to come out to hear it, I already heard it on Inhuman Rampage.


Wait, wait, wait. You didn't actually listen to it yet?


Of course I listened to it, I just said I could have not even bothered.


Then you would know that a lot of parts on this album are not interchangable with other songs/albums. Maybe some of the fast parts, sure, but the same could be said for Sonata Arctica and the like.


Obviously he didn't notice the first time round


I'm not talking about individiual riffs, but the general song structure. Melody bit-keyboard chord beneath vocals-fast soloing while singing till the end.

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