Hit or Miss: Opeth - Deliverance

Demonstealer · **Posted:** Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:52 pm

Oh this album was just brilliant for me, I loved it. Fantastic stuff.

casketmart · **Joined:** Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:01 am **Posts:** 5

Seinfeld26 wrote:

I'll be truthful and admit that, of all the Opeth albums I own (basically everything after Still Life), this is probably the weakest. The songs just aren't as powerful or grandiose as they were on Blackwater Park and Ghost Reveries, and the songs are rather plodding and directionless compared to other Opeth albums.

Plus, if Opeth really wanted that whole heavy/light contrast with Deliverance and Damnation, what they really should've done was do away with the clean vocals and soft/acoustic passages on Deliverance altogether and make it a straight-up, no-holds-barred prog-death album.

I may sound like I'm totally ripping this album apart, but I do still think it's a great album. If it were by any ordinary prog band, I wouldn't be complaining. But being an Opeth album, I do have to compare it to their other albums.

It still gets an easy "Hit" from me.

I think that youre mistaking deliverance for ghost reveries being the weakest opeth.

TheOctavarius · **Posted:** Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:15 am

casketmart wrote:

Seinfeld26 wrote:

I'll be truthful and admit that, of all the Opeth albums I own (basically everything after Still Life), this is probably the weakest. The songs just aren't as powerful or grandiose as they were on Blackwater Park and Ghost Reveries, and the songs are rather plodding and directionless compared to other Opeth albums.

Plus, if Opeth really wanted that whole heavy/light contrast with Deliverance and Damnation, what they really should've done was do away with the clean vocals and soft/acoustic passages on Deliverance altogether and make it a straight-up, no-holds-barred prog-death album.

I may sound like I'm totally ripping this album apart, but I do still think it's a great album. If it were by any ordinary prog band, I wouldn't be complaining. But being an Opeth album, I do have to compare it to their other albums.

It still gets an easy "Hit" from me.

I think that youre mistaking deliverance for ghost reveries being the weakest opeth.

Sir, Ghost Reveries is far from being the weakest Opeth (though I admit it would be much weaker if The Grand Conjuration was omitted). If anything, their weakest would be their debut album.

SoulSociety · **Posted:** Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:37 pm

TheOctavarius wrote:

casketmart wrote:

Seinfeld26 wrote:

I'll be truthful and admit that, of all the Opeth albums I own (basically everything after Still Life), this is probably the weakest. The songs just aren't as powerful or grandiose as they were on Blackwater Park and Ghost Reveries, and the songs are rather plodding and directionless compared to other Opeth albums.

Plus, if Opeth really wanted that whole heavy/light contrast with Deliverance and Damnation, what they really should've done was do away with the clean vocals and soft/acoustic passages on Deliverance altogether and make it a straight-up, no-holds-barred prog-death album.

I may sound like I'm totally ripping this album apart, but I do still think it's a great album. If it were by any ordinary prog band, I wouldn't be complaining. But being an Opeth album, I do have to compare it to their other albums.

It still gets an easy "Hit" from me.

+1, from the albums I heard so far. Though a few people think that Morningrise is their best, but I still have to hear it.

I think that youre mistaking deliverance for ghost reveries being the weakest opeth.

Sir, Ghost Reveries is far from being the weakest Opeth (though I admit it would be much weaker if The Grand Conjuration was omitted). If anything, their weakest would be their debut album.

SoulSociety · **Posted:** Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:38 pm

+1, from the albums I heard so far. Though a few people think that Morningrise is their best, but I still have to hear it.

Sorry, fucked up with the post reply.

Thomas · **Posted:** Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:38 pm

Morningrise is not their best at all imo. I like their newer stuff much better. Morningrise sounds too unfinished, and probably a bit lengthy.

Mintrude · **Posted:** Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:39 pm

metal_xxx wrote:

Morninfrise is not their best at all imo. I like their newer stuff much better. Morningrise sounds too unfinished, and probably a bit lengthy.

Aye, I reckon Morningrise is their weakest, despite what I said in my Orchid review.

Legacy Of The Night · **Posted:** Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:32 pm

Morningrise was a vast improvement over Orchid. It was still a bit disjointed, but it was just a lot more pleasing to listen to. It feels a lot better than Orchid, if you get my drift.

EDIT: Plus, To Bid You Farewell is one of their best tracks ever.

noodles · **Posted:** Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:04 am

imo Orchid is their weakest, it's the only one where a song will get to like the 4 minute mark and i'm like "omfg there's still 6 minutes left"

Thomas · **Posted:** Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:41 pm

Why did people tell me to start with morningrise?:P

Legacy Of The Night · **Posted:** Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:42 pm

metal_xxx wrote:

Why did people tell me to start with morningrise?:P

Because it's awesome.

I dunno if it's the best starting point, but it is a great album.

SoulSociety · **Posted:** Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:24 pm

I take back any negativity I said about Orchid, I heard it properly this morning and I really fucking like it, its probably better than Watershed, IMO. The riffs are really awesome, all that is slacking is a little sophistication with the acoustic sections and too many silent bits, but otherwise it's really good. 8/10

Thomas · **Posted:** Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:24 am

Legacy Of The Night wrote:

metal_xxx wrote:

Why did people tell me to start with morningrise?:P

Because it's awesome.

I dunno if it's the best starting point, but it is a great album.

I'm glad I got Ghost Reveries before Morningrise actually.

SoulSociety · **Posted:** Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:03 pm

metal_xxx wrote:

Legacy Of The Night wrote:

metal_xxx wrote:

Why did people tell me to start with morningrise?:P

Because it's awesome.

I dunno if it's the best starting point, but it is a great album.

I'm glad I got Ghost Reveries before Morningrise actually.

Definitely, I still thinj that GR is the best album to introduce people to Opeth, it's their most balanced in terms of acoustic/heavy parts and the songs themselves are killer.

Goat · **Posted:** Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:07 pm

SoulSociety wrote:

metal_xxx wrote:

Legacy Of The Night wrote:

metal_xxx wrote:

Why did people tell me to start with morningrise?:P

Because it's awesome.

I dunno if it's the best starting point, but it is a great album.

I'm glad I got Ghost Reveries before Morningrise actually.

Definitely, I still thinj that GR is the best album to introduce people to Opeth, it's their most balanced in terms of acoustic/heavy parts and the songs themselves are killer.

Agreed with that, although Still Life's a good second choice.

SoulSociety · **Posted:** Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:19 pm

Zad wrote:

SoulSociety wrote:

metal_xxx wrote:

Legacy Of The Night wrote:

metal_xxx wrote:

Why did people tell me to start with morningrise?:P

Because it's awesome.

I dunno if it's the best starting point, but it is a great album.

I'm glad I got Ghost Reveries before Morningrise actually.

Definitely, I still thinj that GR is the best album to introduce people to Opeth, it's their most balanced in terms of acoustic/heavy parts and the songs themselves are killer.

Agreed with that, although Still Life's a good second choice.

Probably, actually Still Life is my favourite album, followed by GR then MAYH. BP is the only Opeth album I still have to listen to properly.

Dead Machine · **Joined:** Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:24 pm **Posts:** 2527

noodles wrote:

imo Orchid is their weakest, it's the only one where a song will get to like the 4 minute mark and i'm like "omfg there's still 6 minutes left"

that's exactly how i feel when listening to any opeth album.

deliverance is awful even by their standards.

Thomas · **Posted:** Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:15 pm

how is deliverance? I was an inch from buyin it the other day

Mintrude · **Posted:** Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:36 pm

metal_xxx wrote:

how is deliverance? I was an inch from buyin it the other day

I've grown to like it over the past few days. The lack of mellow songs makes it a bit hard to stomach, but the heavy stuff is some of te best they've written.

Thomas · **Posted:** Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:11 am

hmm.... The lack of mellow songs may be the thing that makesme buy it, not a fan of those in particular.

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