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 Post subject: Re: Shit... tragedy :(
PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:00 pm 
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While talking about fights I had a fight yesterday evening, yesterday was some serbian folk festival and We were "just passing by" the staidum when we met a group of folk guys and of them shoved us three fingers (heavy insult around here; that's how serbs greet each other) So one My friend totally feaked out and we beated the hell out of them.


Wait, he insulted you and you beat the crap out of them? Doesn't that kinda make you guys a bunch jumpy, testosterone-fueled cunts? This is the second dickwad post like that I've seen from you.


Well... It wasn't I the one that started a fight, I just cursed them and saying "Go to fucking serbia!, you chetnicks!" and them one of them said (well it's a some heavy curses that cannot be translated; There is just no way to describe it in english) roughly like I'll fuck your dead mothers body and shit on their graves, (then again the part that cannot be translated) fucking Ustasi bastards! And then my friend totally freaked out and then we baeted the hell out of them.


I really don't understand what's so insulting about insults.


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 Post subject: Re: Shit... tragedy :(
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showmaster wrote:
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While talking about fights I had a fight yesterday evening, yesterday was some serbian folk festival and We were "just passing by" the staidum when we met a group of folk guys and of them shoved us three fingers (heavy insult around here; that's how serbs greet each other) So one My friend totally feaked out and we beated the hell out of them.


Wait, he insulted you and you beat the crap out of them? Doesn't that kinda make you guys a bunch jumpy, testosterone-fueled cunts? This is the second dickwad post like that I've seen from you.


Well... It wasn't I the one that started a fight, I just cursed them and saying "Go to fucking serbia!, you chetnicks!" and them one of them said (well it's a some heavy curses that cannot be translated; There is just no way to describe it in english) roughly like I'll fuck your dead mothers body and shit on their graves, (then again the part that cannot be translated) fucking Ustasi bastards! And then my friend totally freaked out and then we baeted the hell out of them.


I really don't understand what's so insulting about insults.


It's more the fact that Croatians and Serbians were never good friends to begin with. It's just the way to start the fight.


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I'm not a racist, but only non-natives commit crime. Scientific FACT.
HEY! I didn'y say nor mean that. I said that there actually is alot of crimes commited by immigrants here in Norway. And that is pretty sad, because it ruins their reputation completely on a national basis. BTW I'm a member of a youth organization against racism :cool:


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 Post subject: Re: Shit... tragedy :(
PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:01 pm 
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Dago wrote:
EdgeOfForever wrote:
showmaster wrote:
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While talking about fights I had a fight yesterday evening, yesterday was some serbian folk festival and We were "just passing by" the staidum when we met a group of folk guys and of them shoved us three fingers (heavy insult around here; that's how serbs greet each other) So one My friend totally feaked out and we beated the hell out of them.


Wait, he insulted you and you beat the crap out of them? Doesn't that kinda make you guys a bunch jumpy, testosterone-fueled cunts? This is the second dickwad post like that I've seen from you.


Well... It wasn't I the one that started a fight, I just cursed them and saying "Go to fucking serbia!, you chetnicks!" and them one of them said (well it's a some heavy curses that cannot be translated; There is just no way to describe it in english) roughly like I'll fuck your dead mothers body and shit on their graves, (then again the part that cannot be translated) fucking Ustasi bastards! And then my friend totally freaked out and then we baeted the hell out of them.


I really don't understand what's so insulting about insults.


It's more the fact that Croatians and Serbians were never good friends to begin with. It's just the way to start the fight.


Well Dago said it, It looks like nothin' to you, maybe you don't understand it but here it's very insulting. While talking about racism, in our schools there are special classes for Croats and special classes for serbs and other national minorities.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:36 pm 
Wow. Just wow.

Unfortunately, being that I live near Detroit, I have to witness things like this on a semi-regular basis.


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I'm racist towards Pistons fans. If I ever see one I'll beat the crap out of him. :mad:


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So, Fridgid, why exactly did you feel the need to mention the country of origin of the people converned in this unfortunate event?

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Criminology... Also to open a discussion on whether or not immigrants from eastern european countries are more prone to violence. The two Bosnians were actually swiss citizens. We do have a problem with immigration, mainly slavic and italian (truzzi del porco dio).
But anyway, this is a shock because stuff like this almost never happens here. And the Carnival is an old, old tradition that almost everyone attends to. Ruined because of some dumb fucks.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:58 pm 
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FrigidSymphony wrote:
Radagast wrote:
So, Fridgid, why exactly did you feel the need to mention the country of origin of the people converned in this unfortunate event?

O_o


Criminology... Also to open a discussion on whether or not immigrants from eastern european countries are more prone to violence. The two Bosnians were actually swiss citizens. We do have a problem with immigration, mainly slavic and italian (truzzi del porco dio).
But anyway, this is a shock because stuff like this almost never happens here. And the Carnival is an old, old tradition that almost everyone attends to. Ruined because of some dumb fucks.


Yes, you're right, but how come that few dumb fucks can ruin a whole carnival?


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Because they killed a guy?


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It's quite normal for the immigrant races to be involved in criminal activity. Most of them come here illegally or even legally, they have shit paying jobs. Here in Malaysia we have quite a problem with the Indonesians, and the Bangladeshis. But somehow the Myanmarese and the Nepalese are very nice people. They don't pick fights nor indulge in criminal activity. But sadly they're benign nature is the reason they're being bullied by the Indons and the Banglas, often resulting in casualties. We have a lot of gang fights here, among the immigrant races especially. And then of course, among the locals and the immigrants.


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FrigidSymphony wrote:
Radagast wrote:
So, Fridgid, why exactly did you feel the need to mention the country of origin of the people converned in this unfortunate event?

O_o


Criminology... Also to open a discussion on whether or not immigrants from eastern european countries are more prone to violence. The two Bosnians were actually swiss citizens. We do have a problem with immigration, mainly slavic and italian (truzzi del porco dio).
But anyway, this is a shock because stuff like this almost never happens here. And the Carnival is an old, old tradition that almost everyone attends to. Ruined because of some dumb fucks.


Everyone has problems with immigration. And no, immigrants are not more prone to crime.


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following the reaper wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
Radagast wrote:
So, Fridgid, why exactly did you feel the need to mention the country of origin of the people converned in this unfortunate event?

O_o


Criminology... Also to open a discussion on whether or not immigrants from eastern european countries are more prone to violence. The two Bosnians were actually swiss citizens. We do have a problem with immigration, mainly slavic and italian (truzzi del porco dio).
But anyway, this is a shock because stuff like this almost never happens here. And the Carnival is an old, old tradition that almost everyone attends to. Ruined because of some dumb fucks.


Everyone has problems with immigration. And no, immigrants are not more prone to crime.


But what if the statistics say otherwise? Immigrants here find themselves in conditions that would make anyone more likely to commit a crime. It's not only their fault, it's also the government.

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FrigidSymphony wrote:
following the reaper wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
Radagast wrote:
So, Fridgid, why exactly did you feel the need to mention the country of origin of the people converned in this unfortunate event?

O_o


Criminology... Also to open a discussion on whether or not immigrants from eastern european countries are more prone to violence. The two Bosnians were actually swiss citizens. We do have a problem with immigration, mainly slavic and italian (truzzi del porco dio).
But anyway, this is a shock because stuff like this almost never happens here. And the Carnival is an old, old tradition that almost everyone attends to. Ruined because of some dumb fucks.


Everyone has problems with immigration. And no, immigrants are not more prone to crime.


But what if the statistics say otherwise? Immigrants here find themselves in conditions that would make anyone more likely to commit a crime. It's not only their fault, it's also the government.


and do you know what statistic is?
Statistic is correct sum of incorrect facts


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showmaster wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
following the reaper wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
Radagast wrote:
So, Fridgid, why exactly did you feel the need to mention the country of origin of the people converned in this unfortunate event?

O_o


Criminology... Also to open a discussion on whether or not immigrants from eastern european countries are more prone to violence. The two Bosnians were actually swiss citizens. We do have a problem with immigration, mainly slavic and italian (truzzi del porco dio).
But anyway, this is a shock because stuff like this almost never happens here. And the Carnival is an old, old tradition that almost everyone attends to. Ruined because of some dumb fucks.


Everyone has problems with immigration. And no, immigrants are not more prone to crime.


But what if the statistics say otherwise? Immigrants here find themselves in conditions that would make anyone more likely to commit a crime. It's not only their fault, it's also the government.


and do you know what statistic is?
Statistic is correct sum of incorrect facts


Dude, it's a fact that the majority of crimes, however slight, are committed by immigrants, legal or not.
The question is, why? Is it something in foreign cultures that makes people violent? Or is it (something I find more probable) the fact that many adapt to the stereotype of "the frustrated violent immigrant whose career chances were taken away by a racist society"?
Violence is inexcusable, whatever your nationality, but it still is my feeling that
a) immigrants (along with natives, obviously) should behave, and not spit on the country that's giving them a place to live, and
b) that society here could decrease greatly the level of racism, direct or indirect, subtle or blunt.
Punishment should be the same for both natives and immigrants, and expulsion should only occur for very grievous crimes (like murder).
But that doesn't stop the fact that there is an immigrant problem. It's a vicious cycle. It's not racism, it's realism.

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http://www.interpol.int/Public/News/200 ... 080211.asp

While watching this news on TV they said that on Swiss media they released data that Croatian mafia is responsible for this theft. (Swiss media are giving croats a bad name)


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You're right that something needs to be done. The NS-ers have a good point here: worst case scenario, Europe turns into part of the third world due to resources used by an ageing natural population and unskilled migrants. That's not to say that immigration should stop completely, of course - migrant workers are a vital part of the Western economy, but they need to be integrated properly and not just in a PC way. Make them feel good about themselves, none of this negative right-wing bollocks...

The answer is, of course, to burn churches.


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You're right that something needs to be done. The NS-ers have a good point here: worst case scenario, Europe turns into part of the third world due to resources used by an ageing natural population and unskilled migrants. That's not to say that immigration should stop completely, of course - migrant workers are a vital part of the Western economy, but they need to be integrated properly and not just in a PC way. Make them feel good about themselves, none of this negative right-wing bollocks...

The answer is, of course, to burn churches.


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Dude, it's a fact that the majority of crimes, however slight, are committed by immigrants, legal or not.
The question is, why? Is it something in foreign cultures that makes people violent? Or is it (something I find more probable) the fact that many adapt to the stereotype of "the frustrated violent immigrant whose career chances were taken away by a racist society"?
Violence is inexcusable, whatever your nationality, but it still is my feeling that
a) immigrants (along with natives, obviously) should behave, and not spit on the country that's giving them a place to live, and
b) that society here could decrease greatly the level of racism, direct or indirect, subtle or blunt.
Punishment should be the same for both natives and immigrants, and expulsion should only occur for very grievous crimes (like murder).
But that doesn't stop the fact that there is an immigrant problem. It's a vicious cycle. It's not racism, it's realism.


wow... I almost agree. Wouldn't say it is the majority of all crime, but they do commit more crime than "regular" ppl, and take up more space in prison than regular ppl even though they only count 5-10% of the total population

I also think it is a problem that some young immigrant kids are getting assimilated into sociaty, while their parents are trying to pull them in the opposite direction. Adding "racism" and discrimation to it, and you'll have youngerst who are trapped between sociaty and their own parents; sociaty doesn't like them , trust them or accept them, and their parents don't accept their behaviour or values that differ from their own. I think this is what is causing alot of trouble in my own country, making young immigrants beating ppl up just for fun etc in order to feel they belong somewhere. Of course, religious idiotcy also cause trouble on its own, but from what i can gather it is often young boys who don't feel acknowledged by sociaty who seek out the extreme.

Another thing that can cause problem is traumatized parents who have been tortured in their own country, they are bad parents... but who can blame them?!


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showmaster wrote:
http://www.interpol.int/Public/News/2008/WOA20080211.asp

While watching this news on TV they said that on Swiss media they released data that Croatian mafia is responsible for this theft. (Swiss media are giving croats a bad name)


Because no one knows the difference between Croatian people and Croatian mafia, right? Maybe it was the Croatian mafia.

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FrigidSymphony wrote:
showmaster wrote:
http://www.interpol.int/Public/News/2008/WOA20080211.asp

While watching this news on TV they said that on Swiss media they released data that Croatian mafia is responsible for this theft. (Swiss media are giving croats a bad name)


Because no one knows the difference between Croatian people and Croatian mafia, right? Maybe it was the Croatian mafia.


and what's the difference between swiss people and swiss mafia?


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